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Scalia: Abortion not in the Constitution
Life Site News ^ | January 4, 2011 | JOHN JALSEVAC

Posted on 01/04/2011 2:50:43 PM PST by NYer


Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (Photo: Stephen Masker)

January 4, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) – In a recent interview with California Lawyer, Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia stated that abortion is not included in the U.S. Constitution.

Scalia, who is opposed to the notion of an “evolving” or “living” Constitution, told interviewer Calvin Massey that by giving some of the “necessarily broad” provisions of the Constitution an “evolving meaning,” these provisions fail to do their job, which is to put in place limitations on what society can or cannot do.

Even if “the current society has come to different views [than the original framers],” he said, “you do not need the Constitution to reflect the wishes of the current society.”

Instead, he said, when something isn’t found in the Constitution, it should be taken up by legislators. One of the examples that he used to illustrate this point was abortion.

“You want a right to abortion? There’s nothing in the Constitution about that,” he said. “But that doesn’t mean you cannot prohibit it. Persuade your fellow citizens it’s a good idea and pass a law.

“That’s what democracy is all about. It’s not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society.”

While Scalia said that sometimes Constitutional interpretation can be difficult, especially when the intent of the original framers isn’t clear, he said that some issues are abundantly clear, such as whether or not there is a constitutional right to abortion.

“I do not pretend that originalism is perfect,” he said. “There are some questions you have no easy answer to, and you have to take your best shot.

“We don’t have the answer to everything, but by God we have an answer to a lot of stuff ... especially the most controversial: whether the death penalty is unconstitutional, whether there’s a constitutional right to abortion, to suicide, and I could go on.”

The 74-year-old jurist, who was appointed to the high court by President Ronald Reagan in 1986, made similar remarks in November, when he told those present at a University of Richmond luncheon that the idea of a living Constitution has allowed “five out of nine hotshot lawyers to run the country.”

At the time Scalia said that the high court distorted the meaning of “due process” (referring to legal procedure) in the 14th Amendment to invent new rights under a “made up” concept of “substantial due process.” That, he said, has allowed the 14th Amendment to become the gateway to legal abortion and other behaviors, which the constitutional authors never intended and viewed as criminal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; abortions; antoninscalia; babies; prolife; righttolife; roevwade; scalia; scotus
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To: ArrogantBustard; wagglebee; BykrBayb; metmom
I doubt that the founders ever conceived the idea that anyone would be perverted enough to argue abortion as a good. They simply did not address the topic; they had no need to do so.

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I agree, which is why I believe that they only way to address this problem is a constitutional amendment. If we rely on "states rights" the murder of the unborn will likely continue.

21 posted on 01/04/2011 4:01:06 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: joe fonebone
Abortion is a states right issue, according to our constitution.

Should a state be allowed to permit the killing of persons who engage in criminal mischief (vandalism) against other people's property during the night time? In some state, such a homicide would be regarded as murder. In at least one state, it would likely be regarded as praiseworthy.

I see no Constitutional basis for the federal government preventing states from writing a prohibition against abortion with so many loopholes as to be essentially ineffective, nor any basis by which it could prevent states from forbidding abortion except in cases where it was necessary to prevent the imminent and certain death of the mother. Just as different states have the authority to impose different requirements for homicide to be considered justifiable, so to with abortion.

22 posted on 01/04/2011 4:20:58 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: ArrogantBustard
“That’s what democracy is all about. It’s not about nine superannuated..."

Do you trust this jackwad: Scalia ?

Does he really think this a Democracy
and not a Constitutional Republic.

If he does think it is a democracy
he does not deserve to be on the court.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
23 posted on 01/04/2011 4:23:18 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: joe fonebone
BTW, I wonder what would happen if a state were to not prohibit abortion, but were to forbid paying for one (either directly or indirectly)? I would think that in those rare cases where abortion was genuinely necessary to prevent death or severe bodily harm, a doctor's Hippocratic Oath would require that he be willing to perform one without regard for whether he was paid; such cases, however, are rare enough that they shouldn't pose a severe hardship for the doctors who perform them.

I'm not saying such a rule would necessarily be a good idea, but it would remove a an abortionist's incentive to declare "risk to the mother" when little such risk actually exists.

24 posted on 01/04/2011 4:30:56 PM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

I knew you might check in with that quote. Good to see you Uri’el, either I’ve not been paying attention or you’ve been missing, I suspect the former.

Always enjoy the paintings, yours, right? ...and of course, the dawgs, can’t be without them.

Blessings,
BC


25 posted on 01/04/2011 4:34:09 PM PST by brushcop (CW4 Matthew Lourey CW2 Joshua Scott/ Kiowa pilots KIA Iraq '05. Thank you for our son's life.)
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To: brushcop
Bless you and yours for your concern.

The wife and I just relocated to Taos New Mexico.

We have been among the missing.

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

26 posted on 01/04/2011 4:39:58 PM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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Oops - why Scalia says that abortion isn't addressed in the Constitution.
27 posted on 01/04/2011 5:00:03 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: sthguard

>> So what’s the distinction

Legal killing is not murder.


28 posted on 01/04/2011 5:25:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

Humor me. Couldn’t a case be made, for instance, for treating the murder of a pregnant woman as a double homicide?


29 posted on 01/04/2011 5:38:35 PM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: supercat
if a state were to not prohibit abortion, but were to forbid paying for one (either directly or indirectly)?

The hospital, doctor or "other party" would charge for the tools and materials involved, but not the process. Somehow they would get their money. It is not possible to fully prevent "indirect payment," though the idea you propose is certainly interesting.
30 posted on 01/04/2011 5:43:29 PM PST by HushTX (Yep. It's confirmed. Liberals are all idiots.)
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To: trisham

Yes, that is what it sounds as though he’s saying.

And also, at the time the Constitution was written and signed, those men would never have been able to envision a time when (a) a SCOTUS would force a “right to abortion” on the country or (b) people would have become so degraded that illicit sex and abortion were considered normal and proper.


31 posted on 01/04/2011 5:49:36 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Gene Eric

All of what you say is true and it is an innocent life... it is all of those things that you say that it is... and it is murder.

LLS


32 posted on 01/04/2011 5:49:48 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: trisham

“I agree, which is why I believe that they only way to address this problem is a constitutional amendment. If we rely on “states rights” the murder of the unborn will likely continue.”

Prospects for doing that in this country which elected Obama is very, very low.


33 posted on 01/04/2011 5:55:20 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: NYer

Attacking the Constitution because it is over 200 years old.....

I have a question:

How old are the Ten Commandments?????
Those don’t seem to be in need of changing.


34 posted on 01/04/2011 6:08:02 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: NYer; little jeremiah
“That’s what democracy is all about. It’s not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society.”

Actually, it's a representative republic, but other than that, he's right.

Sack the judges.

35 posted on 01/04/2011 6:11:25 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: supercat

but were to forbid paying for one (either directly or indirectly)?

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Unworkable ,, take blood for instance ,, the powers that be had it declared an organ making it illegal to be sold ,, stupid people give it away for free thinking the “non-profit” that receives and distributes it is some kind of charity... existing only for the public good ... in reality the hospitals don’t pay for the blood but pay to have it delivered and pay a ridiculous amount (10 to 20 times cost) for testing of the blood... in the end having an open market where the sellers were paid would increase the supply , save lives and be much more equitable.


36 posted on 01/04/2011 6:17:42 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: sthguard

>> Humor me.

You’re right. The law is inconstant.


37 posted on 01/04/2011 6:39:02 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012
among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

And in that order. The "pro-choice" crowd think their liberty (i.e. freedom from self-centered, demanding babies) and the pursuit of happiness (the happiness of the mother, of course) take precedence over the life of the child. But the order is important. First life, then liberty, then happiness. Liberty trumps happiness, life trumps liberty. Remember that, and difficult issues like abortion become much more clear.

38 posted on 01/05/2011 12:35:24 AM PST by giotto
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To: ArrogantBustard

But it is not law...

Simply not true. It is not “enacted” law.
But it is part of the organic law of the United States.

United States laws are broken up and reported in the volumes, The Statutes at Large.

Currently, we are up to about the 125th volume, each one corresponding to a two year session of the house.

I have all of them in PDF format. It took two weeks to download the entire collection.

After the introductions and dedications by various delegates, after the tables and maps and list of chapters, Volume One of the United States Statutes at large, page 1, starts as follows:

When in the course of human events...

This is detailed over the first three pages.

Pages 4-9 are the Articles of Confederation.

Pages 10-19 are the original, unamended Constitution.

Pages 20-23 are the first 12 Amendments


39 posted on 01/05/2011 1:01:12 AM PST by djf (Touch my junk and I'll break yur mug!!!)
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To: little jeremiah
And also, at the time the Constitution was written and signed, those men would never have been able to envision a time when (a) a SCOTUS would force a “right to abortion” on the country or (b) people would have become so degraded that illicit sex and abortion were considered normal and proper.

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Agreed. It's shocking, what our culture has become.

40 posted on 01/05/2011 5:51:11 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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