Skip to comments.Witnesses: (Former presidential advisor)John Wheeler Appeared Disoriented (before death)
Posted on 01/05/2011 6:06:52 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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If so, what is your take on it?
And what do you think about article from the conspiratorial Russian press claiming the Wheeler knew the real cause of the bird & fish kills first reported in Arkansas and Louisiana, and now in Florida, and evidentally reports of similar mysterious dieoffs are coming in from many different parts of the world.
Just 'hysteria' ????
If foul play is involved, the cover-up should offer a few more bodies chop-chop.
You have got to be kidding...and you read this trash? Sorcha Faal an internet hoax queen courtesy of David Booth.
Perhaps Sorcha's middle name is Epic.
The timeline in this email is all wrong.
But that tanker was never bought by the USAF and never “passed gas” during development.
And flights for the Italian and Japanese tankers never flew anywhere near AK for refueling tests or operational AAR missions.
The email is bogus.
I get so annoyed when people make up dates for Messiah’s Return.
I have no doubt He WILL Return, and there are many things happening in the world today which match prophecy, but naming dates is against Scripture.
I prefer to be ready at any time, but if I die while waiting, that’s OK too.
Even so, Come Quickly Lord Jesus!
Regarding the dead birds and this affair, That Theory makes as much sense as any other!
RIP to an American who served his country. He deserved better.
Yes, it does seem to add up that way. Very sad.
The conspiracy guys who believe the government is using mind altering drugs dispersed in con trails will be all over this news...
I said that I received an e-mail not that I read this source as if I subscribe to it. I have no clue as to who the person who writes this is nor do I subscribe to it. I am just sharing what showed up in my inbox this morning.
This article has this wrong. The DoubleTree Hotel's garage is 2 block in the other direction at 7th & King St. Not that it matters, but I'm just saying...
Heart Attack = NSA
Dead family pets and dead family in a hail of endless gunfire, followed by the draining of any estuary = FBI.
While I don't believe the story line, this statement is, sadly nevertheless, a pretty accurate assessment.
Who knows; Wheeler may have gotten some real help for a stroke or whatever he was suffering from or 'whom' he may have suffered from. That they simply watched him 'go' off on his own; seems at the least, irresponsible.
I take that back. I just read this article where he was seen closer to the train station looking for his car. Apparently, the guy was suffering from some sort of dementia.
<And Goldsborough never thought to call 911?
I just saw her on the news and she seemed nice enough, and certainly observant, but I thought the same thing you did - you have a disoriented person in front of you, with no coat on and 1 shoe in his hand and you don’t take this person aside and call the police? Seems like a no brainer to me.
Do you have any idea what bizarro behavior the serf class in the DC metro area is exposed to on a daily basis from their masters? Taking an interest into what these elites who provide your wages is frowned upon. For all the attendant knew the guy was just at a Gary Condit party. Don’t Ask / Don’t Tell, philosophy applies to much more than being gay and in the army ya’ know.
The problem with the accusation of aircraft malfunction releasing the gas is that the ‘deaths’ seemed to be to specific species.
Were it aerial poisonous gas, it would have killed all flying species, rather than just the starlings.
Were it poisonous gas released into the Arkansas river, it would have killed more than just the drum fish.
Quantities (a few dozen to tens of thousands) of birds falling out of the sky have been noticed in numerous locations through the world. Just this morning a report came out of Scandinavia.
A caller to Michael Savage’s radio program speculated that Wheeler may have been involved with the Stuxnet virus and his death was in retaliation.
A lot of speculation. Few answers. And the results of autopsies of the dead species probably won’t satisfy the tinfoil crowds.
#1, very few small towns typically set off fireworks on New Years.
#2, if they do, it would be at midnight, not during the day.
#3, we don’t hear about massive numbers of birds falling out of the sky on the 4th of July.
Many things can lead to sudden dementia. A stroke certainly. Also, prescription pain killers can do it. Wilmington has such a high crime rate that most of the stores & restaurants close after 6:00 pm. If the guy was wandering the streets in Wilmington, he was most likely mugged.
“#3, we dont hear about massive numbers of birds falling out of the sky on the 4th of July.”
Very good point.
“Suffered a stroke and then was victimized by a street thug?”
How about suffered a stroke and in his disorientation climbed into a garbage dumpster in an attempt to get out of the very cold weather.........
The garbage dumpsters the truck picked up were 15 miles away in Newark, DE. I don’t see how he could have walked there, do you?
Depends upon the indigenous street people population in any big city. If they are a constant presence, no one is going to call the police. You will write off anyone acting that way as just another drunken bum.
Street bums are a constant presence in Wilmington.
Sounds most likely to me too since it's the simplest explanation. Disoriented, looking for warmth, dies alone in a dumpster. Poor guy.
If you want to keep your job and pulse in the DC area, you do not call 911 on any of the disoriented ruling elites there unless they tell you to do so, with exacting words. To call 911 every time one of the elites gets pissed up, sexed up, confused or disoriented would crash the system, and that’s with congress out of session.
The police in this area do not like to be bothered, and they will make you sorry you ever got involved. Anyone who’s been here for any length of time is conditioned not to get involved. It doesn’t solve anything, and it only causes the good Samaritan problems.
He told them his brief case had been stolen....Mugged/hit on the head would cause disorientation. 911 should have been called no matter what the system said.
What was in that brief case?
Man found in landfill tied to arson attempt
Yes, Wheeler was so disoriented that he threw himself into a dumpster and died (we don’t yet know the cause of the death).
The garbage dumpsters the truck picked up were 15 miles away in Newark, DE. I dont see how he could have walked there, do you?
I was actually listening to that show in the car.
Here’s an in-depth article
Thanks for the ping!
King street is the main bus route out of Wilmington. He could easily have taken a bus to Newark and crawled into a dumpster there, I suppose. But, that’s kind of a stretch.
His pharmacist in New Castle, where he lived, said he came in looking “a little different” and asked for a ride. The pharmacist offered to call him a cab. Instead, Wheeler left.
Forty minutes later, he was seen wandering around a Wilmington parking garage near the county courthouse, carrying one shoe and not wearing a coat. Parking attendants called a security guard, reporting a homeless man in the garage.
“He had dirt on his right leg. His eyes were red, like he was crying or something and he said he was robbed,” the security guard told the paper, adding that he was wearing a suit and did not smell of alcohol.
"Wow, I hadn't checked on the story yet today. Very interesting developments. I can't see him getting mugged and dumped like that, it's just too weird. How and why he ended up in Newark is obviously key.
So they have a cause of death, but they aren't releasing it yet? Crazy.
There are TONS of security and traffic cameras around that part of Wilmington. They've got to be able to find something from them you would think.
Interesting. People are saying he "knew too much" or was bumped off by neighbors he was feuding with. I kinda doubt those theories, but I guess anythings possible.
My dear old conservative, Christian, tea-totaling mother thinks he had a gay lover who kilt him!
That's awesome. Good ol' mom!"
I wonder if followup with street cams will happen. Where is Chloe from '24' when you need her...
Gosh, it sounds like a movie script.
Yes I missed some of it. Wish I got his podcasts.
It very well could be someday, except Foolywood would make the bad guys us. LOL
Latest from Delaware online...perhaps more of the same..
I thought that odd also.
Yes, that was my first thought as well. Wheeler may have simply passed out in the dumpster when along came the trash truck. Those automatic arms picked up the dumpster and dumped the contents into the truck, whereupon Wheeler got squashed and finally dumped in the landfill.
Please read the thread. The dumpster was in Newark. He was wandering the streets of Wilmington. Sheesh!
I think you give them far more credit than they deserve. Remember that John Walker guy who sold Russians every secret he could get his hands and did it for over 10 years. Or Aldrech Ames who got away with similar stuff inside the CIA for even longer. And then Hansen at the FBI. Those guys all held top secret + clearances and got away with spying for the Russians for years and years and none of them were very careful how they did it. They all lived well beyond their means.
but dimentia does not go undetected in the intelligence community.
The new X-37B (see more here) and the recent successful testing will likely spell the end of the RS-90 program - for costs if nothing else.
As I write this, a second "X"-37 is under construction.
What that programs final designation will be is up in the air, no pun here of course, but I would suggest XL-6 (Exoatmospheric - Load-carrying) and 5th of the series, with the ill-fated USAF (X-20A) Dyna-soar from 1963 as the XL-1.
The Prime, Asset, X-23, and X-24 programs would then be the XL-2 theu -5 respectfully. The old Dyna-MOWS (Manned Orbital Weapons System) falls outside of the space-recce meme.
And everyone is getting excited about a **possible** new Chinese J-20 fighter....... pshaw.