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Journal says doctor faked data linking autism to vaccines
washingtonpost.com ^ | January 6, 2011 | Reuters

Posted on 01/05/2011 11:50:43 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper

The British Medical Journal on Wednesday accused a disgraced British doctor of committing an "elaborate fraud" by faking data in his studies linking vaccines with autism.

Andrew Wakefield's work convinced thousands of parents that vaccines are dangerous. Such fears have not only caused parents to skip vaccinations for their children, which critics say has led to ongoing outbreaks of measles and mumps, but have forced costly reformulations of many vaccines.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andrewwakefield; autism; healthcare; healthscares; measles; mumps; vaccines; wakefield

1 posted on 01/05/2011 11:50:45 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

There are going to be plenty of red faces on this very forum.


2 posted on 01/06/2011 12:27:09 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Does this mean I can take my tin-foil hat off? Or does it only mean I have to turn it around 90 degrees?

It's not like I'm suddenly going to start trusting the government....

3 posted on 01/06/2011 12:29:01 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
> There are going to be plenty of red faces on this very forum.

Depends on how invested they are in the belief. You ever see one of those folks who's been taking and swearing by some patent medicine for years, and when it's finally debunked as a hoax, they still continue to swear by it?

4 posted on 01/06/2011 12:31:40 AM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

ping


5 posted on 01/06/2011 12:41:36 AM PST by Ulysse (I)
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To: Berlin_Freeper; All
Many were/are convinced without the work of Andrew Wakefield.

Not everyone gets sick from a flu shot. Allergies do not impact all people - nor do they impact, equally those who suffer from allergic reactions. . .Immunities are not equal. While response same in extremes (freezing temperatures freeze), people do not experience/respond 'equally' at same stress temperatures of cold/heat. (Have only too look at how people dress on a frigid day to see that - or a hot day, for that matter.)

As well, the nervous system/immune system of newborns, babies (nor children/adults/elderly for that matter) are not equal. Nor, in many cases, are the vaccines/antidotes given to enhance/protect such. Beyond mind/body variables; the same chemotherapy that might kill one patient; cures another.

Meantime, to appreciate a nexus of health and disease; of biology, human error, conspiracy and truth along with the power of silence, suggest a reading - no matter which side of debate you hold to - Dr. Mary's Monkey/Edward T. Haslam. It IS excruciatingly detailed in it's documentation and is available - with reviews - at 'Amazon.com'.

Or, for starters, just google SV 40 (Simian Virus 40).

6 posted on 01/06/2011 1:34:50 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: cricket
corr.As well, the nervous system/immune system of newborns/ babies are not equal (or children/adults/elderly for that matter). And a bump/;^#
7 posted on 01/06/2011 1:39:56 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: cricket
Not everyone gets sick from a flu shot. Allergies do not impact all people - nor do they impact, equally those who suffer from allergic reactions. . .Immunities are not equal.

I saw a couple of articles in the WSJ maybe 5-10 years ago, in the science section, about work being started on variations in individual response -- I remember one was specifically on response to toxins (apparently it's true that "one man's meat is another man's poison"); I think the other had something to do with individual variations in the genome with a view toward tailoring some treatments to individuals. I was cheered -- personally, I don't seem to respond the expected way to lots of things, like some OTC medicines. Haven't heard anything about such work since though! :(

8 posted on 01/06/2011 1:57:18 AM PST by maryz
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Dr. Wakefield was a one man Climate Research Unit. This underscores the need for absolute intellectual honesty in scientific research and the need for double blind clinical trials in medical research. It also illustrates the dangers of journalistic alarmism. This case should be taught in schools of journalism, medicine and all scientific disiplines.


9 posted on 01/06/2011 2:19:46 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

He did it for money. He was paid by the trial lawyers.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2011/01/028075.php


10 posted on 01/06/2011 2:26:00 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
There are going to be plenty of red faces on this very forum.

Are you kidding? The kind of people who believe this swill will take this article as proof of an even grander conspiracy than they had suspected. They are impervious to facts and logic.

-ccm

11 posted on 01/06/2011 3:09:14 AM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: maryz
Well, we know that many chemotherapies are being 'personally' adapted - and now the latest, of ID'ing a single cancer cell so as to make a treatment, specific. And so further adaptions must be in the 'shoot'.

Flashing forward; perhaps newborns will be genetically identified and vaccines will be administered; modified; by prescribed formulations or 'ranges' - OR - the protocols of clustering of vaccines i.e. the '4 in 1' MO; will have been abandoned and the ages per administering such will be modified as well.

That said; have to say; I do not know; save I am skeptical about current recommendations per vaccines and their introduction by 'time line' and number delivered in a single dose and how they are formulated. . .and this doctor/researcher being discredited does not alter my opinion.

(And yes, 'just in case'. . .do not believe in 'global warming' and do believe there has been a massive conspiracy of 'scientific truth' offered on behalf of this agenda.)

That said; hope this science moves you more quickly to a resolution of your health issues. ;^)

12 posted on 01/06/2011 3:10:16 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Now I want to see the “autism spectrum” diagnoses debunked as well; this has been applied quite loosely, in order for parents to collect supplemental social security and for schools to collect funds for a “handicapped” child. White welfare hoax...


13 posted on 01/06/2011 3:19:09 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Berlin_Freeper; neverdem

My son and others I know showed symptoms before the MMR and the continued growth in Autism diagnosys since Thermersol was removed makes it pretty clear the injections were not the problem.


14 posted on 01/06/2011 3:59:19 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

This is Dr. knowingly entered false information into the fund of scientific knowledge he should be tried for the deaths that he knowingly caused.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 4:23:18 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: dayglored

I’m all for debunking frauds but can someone explain how exactly the vaccinated are harmed by the un-vaccinated. It has always seemed odd to me that so many pro vaccine people are so vehemently angry about it. If the anti vaccine people are wrong aren’t they the ones who pay the price for their belief?


16 posted on 01/06/2011 4:47:53 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: dayglored

I’m all for debunking frauds but can someone explain how exactly the vaccinated are harmed by the un-vaccinated. It has always seemed odd to me that so many pro vaccine people are so vehemently angry about it. If the anti vaccine people are wrong aren’t they the ones who pay the price for their belief?


17 posted on 01/06/2011 4:47:58 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: 1malumprohibitum

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity


18 posted on 01/06/2011 4:54:17 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Berlin_Freeper

sfl


19 posted on 01/06/2011 4:58:56 AM PST by phockthis
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
This underscores the need for absolute intellectual honesty in scientific research

Outside reinforcement is also needed to maintain intellectual honesty and public caning is the answer.

Insufficient rigor! Please step to the post and assume the position.

20 posted on 01/06/2011 5:42:43 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: kearnyirish2
I want to see the “autism spectrum” diagnoses debunked as well; this has been applied quite loosely, in order for parents to collect supplemental social security and for schools to collect funds for a “handicapped” child. White welfare hoax...

Yes...

Fraud not limited to greedy scientists/trial lawyers, corporations. . .

21 posted on 01/06/2011 6:46:02 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Wakefields research was “fake, but accurate”. That is the new standard nowadays.


22 posted on 01/06/2011 7:33:27 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: cricket

I’d suspect somewhere a corporation is selling the fake medicine to treat the fake illness (and I don’t think corporations are evil; they are as good or bad as their owners: the stockholders). Not that I mind somebody making a profit, but this fraud costs every taxpayer a ton of money.


23 posted on 01/06/2011 2:48:32 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: 1malumprohibitum
> ...can someone explain how exactly the vaccinated are harmed by the un-vaccinated... If the anti vaccine people are wrong aren’t they the ones who pay the price for their belief?

Simple. Let's say "A" doesn't get vaccinated.

Case 1: "A" stays healthy. Friend/co-worker "B" doesn't catch anything from "A". Everybody's happy.

Case 2: "A" gets sick. "B" doesn't catch it from "A". This is the case you are thinking of.

Case 3: "A" gets sick. "B" catches it from "A". This is the problem. Infectious diseases spread, it's what they do.

The point of vaccines is BOTH: to protect the individual, and to protect society from large-scale outbreaks. If you focus only on the individual, your statement makes sense. If you include the effect on the rest of the people, you will see the reason for the pro-vaccine people's intensity.

Outbreaks of disease cost lives, money, productivity, cause immense suffering, unrest, etc. It's not just a case of sniffles.

At least that the rationale I've heard...

24 posted on 01/06/2011 6:37:35 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Incorrigible; Berlin_Freeper; wastoute; ccmay; Kozak; Jim Noble; therut
How the case against the MMR vaccine was fixed

This is a FReebie from BMJ. You might have to register, not subscribe, to access it. Incorrigible, thanks for the ping.

25 posted on 01/06/2011 10:10:21 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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