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Insiders: Romney Is Top GOP 2012 Contender, Daniels Second (Beltway love these guys, should you?)
National Journal ^ | Thursday January 6, 2011

Posted on 01/06/2011 12:48:14 PM PST by Bigtigermike

Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney continues to hold the pole position for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination in the latest National Journal Political Insiders Poll. But the surprise runner-up to Romney was the two-term Indiana Gov. Mitch Daniels, who moved up from fifth place when the last ranking of the potential GOP White House contenders was conducted a year ago.

Romney's assets and liabilities are well known and haven't changed much since last January. He has a national network of political and financial supporters left over from his unsuccessful run for the 2008 Republican nomination, a command of economic issues derived from his days in the private sector as a corporate turnaround artist, and the hard-won experience from have run for the presidency before.

But Romney must also figure out a way to convince Republican activists that the health care reform measure that he signed as governor of Massachusetts is different from the national health care reform passed by Pres. Obama and congressional Democrats that is anathema to the GOP rank-and-file. He also has a perceived authenticity deficit. Romney "probably knows more about macroeconomics than most but will need to learn to speak or appear more genuine," cautioned one Republican Insider.

SLIDESHOW: More on the Insiders' picks.

Daniels has taken few obvious steps to lay the foundation for a prospective 2012 candidacy in the last year, but Republican Insiders nonetheless have gravitated to him as the lead alternative to Romney. Daniels is seen as having a solid conservative record as governor, particularly in controlling state spending. Yet there's still doubt about how effective a candidate he'd be. Daniels "has the credentials; needs to work on his charisma," said one Republican Insider.

(Excerpt) Read more at hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 01/06/2011 12:48:21 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

Ain’t voting for the RINO, EVAH!


2 posted on 01/06/2011 12:50:01 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Bigtigermike

No one but the Rinos want them; so quit lying and pushing them on us.

We don’t want them.


3 posted on 01/06/2011 12:50:16 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Bigtigermike
Fortunately, THE VOTERS DISAGREE.

Click here for HARRY info

4 posted on 01/06/2011 12:50:21 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Bigtigermike

Registered Republican all of my life.

Will NEVER cast a vote for Mitt Romney.

I am not alone.


5 posted on 01/06/2011 12:50:27 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Bigtigermike

The MSM and liberals keep pushing these RINOs at us like they are the only choice. They can put a D next to their names and keep them.


6 posted on 01/06/2011 12:51:03 PM PST by RickB444 (Beat your sword into plowshares, but wined up plowing the fields of someone who kept their sword.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Again with shoving the Loser Romney down our throats?


7 posted on 01/06/2011 12:51:16 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Bigtigermike

Anything can happen in the time left before the primaries and such.

But this makes me think that a lot of Republicans are doing the equivalent of trying to get to first base by a walk...or a balk.

Time to swing for the fences.

I wonder how long I could keep up this metaphor if I tried?


8 posted on 01/06/2011 12:51:16 PM PST by RexBeach ("There is no such thing as a good tax." Winston Churchill)
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To: Bigtigermike
The DOGS know the winner of 2012.

"But the details of the event are more than unseemly - they may, in fact, be illegal. Massachusetts's animal cruelty laws specifically prohibit anyone from carrying an animal "in or upon a vehicle, or otherwise, in an unnecessarily cruel or inhuman manner or in a way and manner which might endanger the animal carried thereon. "An officer for the Massachusetts Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals responded to a description of the situation saying "it's definitely something I'd want to check out." The officer, Nadia Branca, declined to give a definitive opinion on whether Romney broke the law but did note that it's against state law to have a dog in an open bed of a pick-up truck, and "if the dog was being carried in a way that endangers it, that would be illegal."

"Dog on Roof? What Was It Like for Romney's Pooch? - Scientists Say Dog Likely Experienced Wind-Whipped, Uncomfortable Trip - "Before beginning the drive, Mitt Romney put Seamus, the family's hulking Irish setter, in a dog carrier and attached it to the station wagon's roof rack. e'd built a windshield for the carrier, to make the ride more comfortable for the dog,".. Jordan Kaplan, the owner of Petaholics, a dog walking service in New York City,
and a lifelong dog owner and dog lover, said Romney's actions were uncalled for"


"Romney's dog - This is a distinction Mitt Romney probably could do without, but he is surely the first presidential candidate to be attacked for putting a dog with diarrhea in a carrier and tying it to the top of a station wagon. Romney's defense: Seamus liked it. [like the citizens under Romney's RomneyCARE, etc.?] "


"As the oldest son, Tagg Romney commandeered the way-back of the wagon, keeping his eyes fixed out the rear window, where he glimpsed the first sign of trouble. ''Dad!'' he yelled. ''Gross!'' A brown liquid was dripping down the back window, payback from an Irish setter who'd been riding on the roof in the wind for hours. As the rest of the boys joined in the howls of disgust, Romney coolly pulled off the highway and into a service station. There, he borrowed a hose, washed down Seamus and the car, then hopped back onto the highway."

"Story about dog on car roof comes back to bite Romney - 200 comments from readers complaining of animal cruelty"

Romney's bad behavior Exposed by Seamus

"Romney Loses Nomination Over Dog Abuse? - Romney was traveling that summer with his wife, five sons, and Seamus to his parent's cottage on Lake Huron. But hours into the ride, Seamus apparently suffered diarrhea, which ran down the back window of the car. .David Kravitz wrote on BlueMassGroup, a liberal blog. "It also strikes me as classic Romney: it solves a problem efficiently, in a business-like manner, and with no regard whatsoever for the suffering that the solution may cause."


9 posted on 01/06/2011 12:52:02 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Bigtigermike

Daniels has NO name recognition


10 posted on 01/06/2011 12:53:30 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: Bigtigermike
I don't trust a Mormon with my beer, why would I trust one with the country?

Harry Reed sure has been a great example of Mormon reliability and honesty.

11 posted on 01/06/2011 12:54:59 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: Bigtigermike
I'm once again experiencing “Rear Deja Vue” where you have the feeling you've lived something before and you know exactly when and where. In this case it was with Bob Dole and John McCain. All of sudden we're being told how someone many of us would make our first choice is the leader in all sorts of polls.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I can tell them right now, if they end up with Romney as the nominee they'll be doing without my money and my vote.

12 posted on 01/06/2011 12:55:26 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Bigtigermike

I’m once again experiencing “Rear Deja Vue” where you have the feeling you’ve lived something before and you know exactly when and where. In this case it was with Bob Dole and John McCain. All of sudden we’re being told how someone many of us would NEVER, EVER make our first choice is the leader in all sorts of polls.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I can tell them right now, if they end up with Romney as the nominee they’ll be doing without my money and my vote.


13 posted on 01/06/2011 12:56:01 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: Bigtigermike

I would not be for either.


14 posted on 01/06/2011 12:57:01 PM PST by dforest
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To: Bigtigermike

This poll just shows how deep and pervasive a problem we have with our Washington GOP insiders.


15 posted on 01/06/2011 12:57:02 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Bigtigermike

Have we heard anything from Romney on the DADT repeal? That would be entertaining.


16 posted on 01/06/2011 12:58:14 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Bigtigermike

FUMR!! NO RINOS!!


17 posted on 01/06/2011 12:59:04 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

The Rockafeller wing of the Republican Party is in for a rude shock when they see we ain’t voting for their choices.

The jig is up people no longer hang on their musings and follow their lead. They are the establishment. They are what’s wrong with the stupid Party.


18 posted on 01/06/2011 12:59:46 PM PST by Obadiah (BHO -- out the door in 4!)
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To: Bigtigermike
NO to Mitt!
19 posted on 01/06/2011 1:00:01 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Diogenesis



20 posted on 01/06/2011 1:01:47 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Bigtigermike

Never!


21 posted on 01/06/2011 1:01:48 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: GeronL
I'm sick of people who are all name/style and no substance anyway.

Romney's candidacy should be DOA because of RomneyCare aloine. But Daniels is perhaps the GOP candidate best equipped to get the national fiscal house in order. And he's the "anti-Obama" in terms of style, etc.

22 posted on 01/06/2011 1:02:45 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Bigtigermike
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

This is a joke, right?

ineluctable

23 posted on 01/06/2011 1:03:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (DEFCON I ALERT: The federal cancer has metastasized. All personnel report to their battle stations.)
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To: Bigtigermike

If Rommney is a top contender it should be in the Democrat Parrty. He is going NOWHERE in the Republican Party in 2012


24 posted on 01/06/2011 1:03:49 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Bigtigermike

The voters don’t like the Democrats so let’s choose Republicans who are the most like Democrats. Sounds like a plan.

Seriously, this is no suprise. Every time Rasmussen polls insiders (political class as he calls it), he finds that GOp insiders are far more liberal than the base.


25 posted on 01/06/2011 1:04:17 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: sickoflibs
From Leno:

ROMNEY: You know, I think Senator McCain, who has a lot of military experience and I have none, Senator McCain looked at the setting and said, look, the current policy is working, and in a time of war and conflict, this is not the time to make a change of that nature, and I would concur with that view.
26 posted on 01/06/2011 1:04:25 PM PST by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: Bigtigermike
I will not vote for Romney under any circumstances. Romney getting the nomination would be the worst possible outcome for the GOP in 2012.

I can't think of a worse Republican candidate...

27 posted on 01/06/2011 1:04:30 PM PST by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Bigtigermike
CRAP-O-GANDA, the power elite knows if the choice comes down to Romney and Obozo, either way they win and we lose, AGAIN. Ballet choice should include NOTA (none of the above).
28 posted on 01/06/2011 1:04:52 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Bigtigermike

Should you listen to them? If you are a slow learner.

Conservatives know their own and Mitt can peddle his wares and snares elsewhere. He’s a conman like the one in power now.

MSM - It’s the R’s turn to show how easily some sheep can be conned like it was for the liberals in ‘08.


29 posted on 01/06/2011 1:04:52 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Da Coyote

I will keep hoping we get a Republican Senate and House and let the Muslim stay in while neutered.

I am not voting for Romney.Might as well keep Obamacare as Romneycare.


30 posted on 01/06/2011 1:10:05 PM PST by Venturer
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To: Bigtigermike
National Journal Political Insiders Poll
That's the problem right there...
31 posted on 01/06/2011 1:10:27 PM PST by astyanax (Liberalism: Logic's retarded cousin.)
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To: GeronL

Name recognition?

The man has no discernible facial features!

He is unrecognizable in any way. No one will vote for him.


32 posted on 01/06/2011 1:11:06 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: Bigtigermike

If it’s Romney I stay on the couch on election day. I would NEVER vote for him.


33 posted on 01/06/2011 1:14:16 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: Bigtigermike

Romney — charming snake oil salesman. No way will I ever vote for him. I will stay home first. His mandated healthcare in MA is what got us into the mess we have today.


34 posted on 01/06/2011 1:14:46 PM PST by goldi (')
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To: t-dude

lol!!


35 posted on 01/06/2011 1:20:50 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: Bigtigermike

If the republicans want to lose the next election this a sure fire way to do it.


36 posted on 01/06/2011 1:21:00 PM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: Bigtigermike
The time is NOW to start working for some REAL conservative candidates. People who will stick with us once in office. We have two years to build name recognition for them.
37 posted on 01/06/2011 1:21:11 PM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: ridesthemiles

I am with you, I’ll vote 3rd party before I vote Romney..He makes my skin crawl..


38 posted on 01/06/2011 1:21:43 PM PST by aces
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To: Bigtigermike

These people need their own party. I’m tired of pretending we’re in the same party.


39 posted on 01/06/2011 1:24:40 PM PST by marron
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To: Da Coyote

Ditto- no way no how!


40 posted on 01/06/2011 1:25:22 PM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: Bigtigermike

Let me say this again. I will not, under any circumstance, vote for Romney or any other RINOS. I learned my lesson with Bush, who couldn’t have set the stage for Obama any better than he did.


41 posted on 01/06/2011 1:26:26 PM PST by pt17
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To: Bigtigermike

A great reason to listen to the Outsiders, not the Insiders,IMHO...

Colonel, USAFR


43 posted on 01/06/2011 1:29:22 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Venturer
Romneycare is a minor turd in the punchbowl compared to Obamacare. Mitt at least understands the concept of federalism and the fact that the idiot voters of Massachusetts actually wanted it.

That being said, I still ain't drinking from a punchbowl with a small turd in it.

44 posted on 01/06/2011 1:29:53 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Bigtigermike

DON’T LET THEM TELL US WHOM TO VOTE FOR!!


45 posted on 01/06/2011 1:32:50 PM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: jwparkerjr

I’m glad you clarified the term “Rear Deja Vue” with a definition. I was assuming that it meant “you have the feeling you’ve seen this ass (Mitt) before”.

Either one works for me. Go away Mitt the Twit.


46 posted on 01/06/2011 1:33:58 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Bigtigermike

Great, a rino and a social liberal. What could go wrong?


47 posted on 01/06/2011 1:38:27 PM PST by ABQHispConservative (Fire all the damn rino!)
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To: Bigtigermike
How about let's just be practical?

Romney won the governor's race with 49% of the vote--he squeaked in, and only did so by pouring huge amounts of money into the campaign at the last minute to "put him over the top" at the last minute with 49% of the vote.

After 4 years in office, he had a 30% approval rating (that's why he didn't run for reelection, he would have gotten creamed).

In the 2008 GOP primaries he only got 22% of the vote despite spending record amounts of money.

The conclusion is pretty clear: Romney is a terrible politician. Whether you are talking liberal Mass. or conservative GOP states, Romney has shown no ability to garner votes--despite having poured vast amounts of money into every race he has been in.

I'm not even talking about his political positions yet, just his ability as a politician, which is 2nd rate at best.

48 posted on 01/06/2011 1:42:30 PM PST by Brookhaven (Moderates = non-thinkers)
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To: Bigtigermike

I looked closely at Romney last time and concluded that even McCain was better. Why would I go for him this time. Obama has proven incompetent, thank God, so why should I want his Republican clone. Never


49 posted on 01/06/2011 1:54:35 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: Da Coyote

Any RINO would be simply a McCain II against Barry. No wonder the MSM/rats are humping the leg of Romney. However, WE don’t want him. Copish? And we WE are legion.


50 posted on 01/06/2011 1:54:43 PM PST by JPG (YES SHE CAN!)
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