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The terrible mistake of revoking birthright citizenship: U.S. owes Mexicans more, not less
New York Daily News ^ | Thursday, January 6th 2011 | Rogers M. Smith

Posted on 01/06/2011 9:22:56 PM PST by presidio9

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To: ViLaLuz
And the “indigenous” stole it from the Anazazi who were there before them. Kick them all out and send them back to Asia!

That's it! Everybody go back to the Garden of Eden RIGHT NOW! No whining about the Cheribum with the Flaming Sword! Move along now!

101 posted on 01/07/2011 6:04:51 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: SunkenCiv

Not a single sentence addressing La Raza, MECHA, MALDEF, and the Mexican government’s promoting an overwhelming invasion of their drug dealers, anchor babies, and thugs into our country. Nothing about drug wars and innocent-civilian murders on the border, nor about our jails, hospitals, schools, and welfare offices awash with freeloaders from Mexico, protesting our flag and costing us billions. Nothing about Mexicans taking jobs that our high school kids used to do for a few extra bucks.

And no cogent argument stating that the 14th Amendment does not allow an illegal invader to confer American citizenship upon his illegal baby by simply committing the crime of entering our country illegally. It’s a crime that would be severely punished by the Mexican government had the person been invading Mexico, and they’re right. Illegal behavior should never NEVER be rewarded in any way.

Mr. Smith, sit down, shut up, and think about all those issues before you start lecturing Americans about how we protect our sovereignty. This is our country, and our sovereignty is our business, not Mexico’s.

You butthead.


102 posted on 01/07/2011 7:29:53 PM PST by TheOldLady ("...neither the Democrats NOR THE REPUBLICANS heard us in 2010." - Lazamataz)
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To: Wonder Warthog

NO WAY. VISITORS here retain their allegiance to their homelands and so are NOT “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States, which is what that phrase means. The discussion surrounding the adoption of this covered that very topic, IIRC!


103 posted on 01/07/2011 7:36:56 PM PST by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE)
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To: Grizzled Bear

“Everybody go back to the Garden of Eden RIGHT NOW!”

If that wipes out us “owing” anything to illegal immigrants, let’s do it!


104 posted on 01/08/2011 2:50:38 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Bob

I agree we don’t owe them squat but there are much bigger issues. I heard O’Rielly on the factor today ranting about not spending any tourist dollars in Mexico because of the beheading’s in TJ. We should do the opposite, spend our tourist dollars in the beach cities of Mexico. The more jobs lost here the more they move North. Keep the dollars in North America. Mexico is far from perfect but has there ever been a study that adds all the drug related crimes in America, robberies, beatings, lost time at work, child abuse. The USA has more drug deaths than Mexico. Corruption is in Mexico, but the USA has corruption, it is called pork, and no bid contracts.
All this to say that we need to support Mexico more not less. They are our neighbors, like it or not, and what ever happens in Mexico will effect the USA. There are Pro-Chavz politicians in Mexico City that are getting very popular. A prez like Hugo in Mexico City would be a major disaster. A major war on our border would not be wise.
I live in Mexico, never in my wildest dreams did I think I would live here. I bought a vacation home and stayed. The Mexican people are not the problem. A corrupt political system is the issue. The USA is not far behind in this area. Mexico has all the natural resources and cheap labor force but Mexico does not spend money on infrastructure. Why does the USA outsource everything to China and Korea? Send it all to Mexico, keep jobs in North America. America is addicted to drugs and cheap electronic products. We get the drugs through Mexico and the cheap products from China. That’s my story. Thanks to FreeRepublic for the soap box.


105 posted on 01/08/2011 9:32:18 AM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: cromero

I see your point about keeping Mexicans in Mexico but I don’t intend to vacation there ever again. I have some friends who after working in Mexico, retired and stayed there. They have become involved with an orphanage and have done some very good things. I have donated to the orphanage but recently they asked for donations for a tutor to teach the children English. I refused because it will just encourgage the children to come to the US. I asked them why they didn’t find a plumber or a roofer or a carpenter to teach the children those skills. They did not answer me back.


106 posted on 01/08/2011 9:41:55 AM PST by Ditter
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To: presidio9

That’s the tooth fairy view of Mexican history. During the 19th century a bunch of old Spanish possessions in that area achieved independence from Spain. After a long period of anarchy, some became Mexico and some became part of the USA. I’m surprised this goof didn’t say that France owed Mexico because of their takeover of Mexico in the 1860’s.


107 posted on 01/08/2011 10:07:12 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: drpix

If I accept the Zogby poll, it is still disturbing. You are willing to accept an immigration population, whom over 1/4 believe the US southwest is Mexican territory. And you are assuming the remaining 75 percent will restrain them. I still say you are asking for trouble.


108 posted on 01/08/2011 4:43:39 PM PST by Fee
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To: Fee
That poll doesn't say "over 1/4 believe the US southwest is Mexican territory." It says barely "over 1/4 believe the US southwest" is NOT Mexican territory. (That's my point.)

Be very disturbed!

109 posted on 01/08/2011 5:18:15 PM PST by drpix
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To: drpix

I am man enough to admit I misread your post. My profound apologies. Have a Happy New Year.


110 posted on 01/08/2011 5:26:12 PM PST by Fee
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To: Fee

No need for apologies... all the NOTs get confusing. And now we can both be VERY disturbed for the New Year.


111 posted on 01/09/2011 3:04:03 AM PST by drpix
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To: presidio9

The US owes Mexicans NOTHING!

Flippin’ leeches.


112 posted on 01/09/2011 3:05:46 AM PST by meyer (Obama - the Schwartz is with him.)
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To: presidio9
If the U.S. apportioned more of its overall legal immigration admissions to Mexicans, it would do far more to reduce its numbers of illegal aliens than any change in birthright citizenship would.

I guess so, sixty percent of illegal immigrants come from Mexico. If people would just leave their doors unlocked it would reduce break-ins.

113 posted on 01/09/2011 5:42:39 AM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Fee

Thanx for taking the time to post some evidence for your opinion. I have no poll to counter so I’ll conceed your point with just a couple reservation. I didn’t see 58% of illegals protesting so I’m not buying the number. If we saw 10 million people protesting you can bet people would be listening to what they are saying. Lastly, your conclusions don’t match the poll questions. “Rightfully belongs” does not equal owns. “Without U.S. permission” may include visitors with a valid visa.


114 posted on 01/09/2011 3:46:06 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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