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Map: Where is it Legal to Own Gun Silencer in U.S.?
opposingviews.com ^ | 4 January, 2011 | Gun Trust Lawyer

Posted on 01/07/2011 4:26:40 AM PST by marktwain

Silencers are legal for civilian ownership in the following states Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri (C&R Required), Montana, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina , South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin and Wyoming.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; map; silencer; us
In other words, there are a few hoplophobic states that like their citizens to suffer hearing loss.
1 posted on 01/07/2011 4:26:44 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

You can always use sub-sonic rounds at close range.


2 posted on 01/07/2011 4:29:54 AM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President. He's shovel ready!)
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To: marktwain

bump


3 posted on 01/07/2011 4:30:25 AM PST by piroque (it is better to perish than to live as slaves.)
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To: marktwain

Note from SC: It’s a great way to shoot the armadillo tearing up your yard ... at 3 am ... in a senior, gated community. Everybody stays asleep, armadillo gone, yard looks good in the morning.


4 posted on 01/07/2011 4:33:01 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: marktwain

In Europe, they encourage use of suppressors to mitigate noise pollution.


5 posted on 01/07/2011 4:41:40 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: marktwain

I thought the feds prohibited silencers....?
Am I thinking of something else?


6 posted on 01/07/2011 4:53:14 AM PST by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: marktwain

Why do you want a silencer...?

They have these things called ear plugs that work just fine.


7 posted on 01/07/2011 4:53:20 AM PST by mmercier ( in the wicked game, do not put yourself into stupid places)
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To: marktwain

For later


8 posted on 01/07/2011 4:54:40 AM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: RadiationRomeo

You can legally own a suppressor(”silencer”). You have to pay a few hundred dollars for a federal ‘tax stamp’, and submit to a thorough federal background check. I believe a leading member of your local law enforcement has to sign off on it too. (I’m not entirely clear on this part) Assuming if you pass the background check, if your local sheriff or DA won’t sign for you, the state police will.


9 posted on 01/07/2011 5:00:42 AM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: mmercier

In case of home invasion,I won’t have time to put in ear plugs.I’ve already mounted the suppressor on the MP5.


10 posted on 01/07/2011 5:00:54 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

I don’t think its illegal to own a plastic 2 liter bottle filled with sponge taped to the end of a revolver. Works for me.


11 posted on 01/07/2011 5:12:12 AM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: marktwain

There is an oft-told tale about a clock tower in a small town that began tolling thirteen times at midnight. Officials inspected the strike mechanism to no avail. Then by chance one night, a cop saw a window open in a nearby house, a .22 rifle with a homemade silencer protruded, and as the clock struck twelve o’clock, the rifle spat and added a thirteenth strike.

An arrest quickly followed.


12 posted on 01/07/2011 5:33:20 AM PST by elcid1970 ("No Islam, no terror!")
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To: KoRn; RadiationRomeo
Correct though I would add that a silencer can be owned by a company or a trust and not have to be OK’d by your CLEO.

FYI.

13 posted on 01/07/2011 5:34:39 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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To: KoRn

I think the sheriff is the one that has to sign off. I haven’t ever heard of the state police angle. But I haven’t applied for a silencer either.


14 posted on 01/07/2011 5:36:55 AM PST by justice14 ("stand up defend or lay down and die")
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To: marktwain


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

15 posted on 01/07/2011 5:39:24 AM PST by The Comedian (Puzzling puzzle pieces precisely proliferating panoramically.)
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To: Farmer Dean

I can’t see any possible reason to want a silence for home defense. In fact, I can think of several reasons why it would do more harm than good. Not alerting your neighbors tops the list.

I think I’m going to have to put this in the ‘tacticool’ category, along with all the people who think that an AR-15 is an excellent home defense weapon.


16 posted on 01/07/2011 5:49:41 AM PST by Domalais
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To: Domalais

Well,for one thing-the invaders won’t know that they are being taken out.I also get to retain my hearing during the fight,important for detecting new threats.An ar-15 might not be the best home defense weapon,but it would beat throwing chairs.


17 posted on 01/07/2011 6:03:52 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Domalais

An AR15 sure beats fingernails


18 posted on 01/07/2011 6:04:33 AM PST by barb-tex (What else did you expect from the likes of 0? BTW, What ever happened to Rhodesia?, Oh, yes, Zimbabw)
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To: Domalais

I don’t own a silencer, but I can think of several home defense advantages: 1. My hearing is not impaired from my gun shot. 2. Someone invading my home will have a hard time locating my position. 3. Neighbors are not disturbed while I take out the perp. This is important in that it will give me ample time to clean up the battlefield before the police arrive—”if you get my meanin”. This becoming less important as the ruling elite slowly loosens self-defense restrictions. But then, again, I think it’s important to eliminate any ambiguity about the situation. Sadly, there remain far too many over zealous prosecutors—and policemen/women.


19 posted on 01/07/2011 6:06:48 AM PST by dools0007world
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To: RadiationRomeo

Lawful ownership requires a Class 3 permit, as I recall.


20 posted on 01/07/2011 6:07:31 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: marktwain

WA really shouldn’t be on the list unless their law has been changed recently (unlikely). As of 4 or 5 yrs ago it was legal to own a sound suppressor but not use it. In fact I think LE took the position if it was mounted then it was used. In effect owning was pointless unless you could transport it to another state and use it there.


21 posted on 01/07/2011 6:27:28 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Domalais

A suppressed weapon, firing a sub sonic round is VERY HARD to detect. Toss in Night vision and it’s a game changer even against superior numbers. Suppressors completely hide the muzzle flash, and if the round is subsonic, it sounds like a pellet gun.

But I can settle for tactical cool. :-)


22 posted on 01/07/2011 6:32:42 AM PST by Robbin (If Sarah isn’t welcome, I’m not welcome, it’s just that simple…)
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To: Mikey_1962

You can always use sub-sonic rounds at close range


Subsonic goes “bang” just about as loudly as supersonic, so the issue is largely irrelevant to hearing loss, unless you’re downrange with someone shooting high-power rifle rounds past your ear.


23 posted on 01/07/2011 6:37:17 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Farmer Dean
Well,for one thing-the invaders won’t know that they are being taken out.

There's a reason that the more gun-savvy will correct someone calling them silencers. Suppressors do not make a gun silent. They simply obscure the noise to make it sound as little like a gunshot as possible and hopefully make it harder to identify the direction of the sound's source. In a quiet house, it will certainly not go unnoticed. Also, there's the whole 'people tend to make noise when you shoot them' issue. Maybe you will get lucky and your home will be invaded by mutes.


I also get to retain my hearing during the fight,important for detecting new threats.

We're wading pretty deep into masturbatory testosterone fantasy here. How many Muslim Death Ninjas do you expect will be sent after you? Is it well known that you post on FR? If so, at least six. Put some claymores in your bathrooms, Death Ninjas always hide in bathrooms.


An ar-15 might not be the best home defense weapon,but it would beat throwing chairs.

Well, your chair won't over penetrate and kill a family member in the next room. So that's a plus. Instead of a chair, though, I was more thinking a quality handgun or shotgun.

You're making a straw man argument; I'm not arguing that you should not have a firearm for home defense. I'm saying that most people who claim they own exotic/expensive firearms (or that they need a suppressor) for home defense are full of BS. It's usually the guy with the ACOG on his AR-15 that says he bought it for home defense.
24 posted on 01/07/2011 6:37:41 AM PST by Domalais
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To: KoRn

if your local sheriff or DA won’t sign for you, the state police will.


If they won’t, you can set up a corporation to be the owner of the silencer, and corporations don’t need the CLEO sign-off.


25 posted on 01/07/2011 6:38:39 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: mmercier

I hate having to buy ear plugs for everybody sleeping in the houses around me! ;-P


26 posted on 01/07/2011 6:40:03 AM PST by MortMan (I am in no mood to be amused! (Ebenezer Scrooge))
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To: Robbin

Put a sign out front of your house with your cell phone number on it, and instructions for home invaders to call and give you a heads-up so you can put your night vision on.

I’m sure they’ll oblige.


27 posted on 01/07/2011 6:42:23 AM PST by Domalais
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To: Domalais

Well,you’re obviously the resident armchair expert on all things gun.


28 posted on 01/07/2011 6:43:25 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean

Absolutely not. I’m certain that the majority of people in this thread know more about guns than I do.

It’s just that a lot of gun enthusiasts let their enthusiasm overwhelm their common sense.


29 posted on 01/07/2011 6:51:02 AM PST by Domalais
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To: Mikey_1962
You can always use sub-sonic rounds at close range.

You'll not hear the super sonic crack, but you will hear the boom. I shoot subsonic .45 auto rounds all the time, and still wear hearing protection.

30 posted on 01/07/2011 10:53:16 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: Farmer Dean; Domalais
Well,you’re obviously the resident armchair expert on all things gun.

Sounded more like the resident expert on EVERYTHING.

31 posted on 01/07/2011 10:55:53 AM PST by jimt
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To: Farmer Dean

My MP5SD3 has an integral suppressor, but hey it gets hot after a couple mags in full auto.


32 posted on 01/07/2011 2:59:30 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: Mr. Lucky

No. The dealer you buy it from has to have a Class 3 license. The buyer has to submit a Form 4 with two passport photos, two sets of fingerprints, and $200.00 to the ATF and wait two or significantly more months for approval. This is all in addition to the cost of the item, which can be very significant.


33 posted on 01/07/2011 3:09:53 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: P8riot
There you go.

The quickest way to find the correct answer to a question on this form is to post the wrong answer.

34 posted on 01/07/2011 3:16:50 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Robbin

A few years ago I used my suppressed AR in Whisper.30 with 3rd gen night vision to take out 3 raccoons on my deck at 3am. We had a houseful of guests that night and nobody heard a thing, even the coons.


35 posted on 01/07/2011 3:17:49 PM PST by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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To: P8riot

I have an AWC suppressor that mounts on the 3 lug barrel of my MP5A3.The thing can stand some pretty serious full auto firing.Five mags in 3 minutes is about the limit of the system.Do you reload your sub-sonic ammo?I found that 3.3 to 3.4 grains of Win 231 behind a hard cast 147 grain NEI bullet works best.Cheap to shoot too since I cast my own bullets.


36 posted on 01/07/2011 4:49:02 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain; Travis McGee
This weighty question has been answered years ago...


37 posted on 01/08/2011 3:28:42 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: vetvetdoug
-- I don't think its illegal to own a plastic 2 liter bottle filled with sponge taped to the end of a revolver. --

It is. There has been at least one federal felony conviction for stuffing carpet padding into a plastic bottle.

US v. Mitchell, 209 F.3d 319 (4th Cir. 2000)

Reference lifted from July 13, 2010 thread at Volokh Conspiracy, mostly on the subject of the ex post facto effect of the Lautenberg amendment.

38 posted on 01/08/2011 4:16:23 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Tainan
They didn't let me take these home.


39 posted on 01/08/2011 6:53:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Domalais

I’ve got an AWC Archangel that is so quiet that if you had your back to me you probably wouldn’t hear anything but the bolt.

I’ve heard wet suppressors with bolt lock that are even more quiet...

Ed


40 posted on 01/08/2011 2:36:45 PM PST by Sir_Ed
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