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Larry Vickers Fires 50,000th Round in HK45 Pistol Endurance Test
ammoland.com ^ | 7 Janurary, 2011 | Chris Frank

Posted on 01/08/2011 5:15:57 AM PST by marktwain

Fayetteville, NC --(Ammoland.com)- If you’re like me, you’ve been following the HK45 endurance test over at Pistol-Training.com.

The test finally concluded at 50,000 rounds and I was honored to fire the 50,000th round through the gun that I helped bring into existence.

As expected, the gun passed the test with flying colors and amazingly experienced only a couple of minor problems… all while going 10,000 rounds between cleanings!

Thanks to Todd for letting me shoot the 50,000th round!

(Excerpt) Read more at ammoland.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; hk45; test
Chuck Taylor documented putting 276,000 rounds through a Glock 17, and there are claims of rental Glock pistols having over 400,000 rounds through them with only minor problems.
1 posted on 01/08/2011 5:15:57 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

That’s a lot of zombies.

I’m somewhat jealous. I have an older .45 HK, a P9S, and the magazine lips bend if you look at it funny. They are also made of unobtanium. Because HK hates me.


2 posted on 01/08/2011 5:21:58 AM PST by battlecry
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To: marktwain
I put over a thousand shots through my liver with only two mishaps....an exwife and a cross dresser in tijuana.
3 posted on 01/08/2011 5:22:30 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: marktwain

thats amazing

any tests with Sig?


4 posted on 01/08/2011 5:23:29 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DainBramage

Now that’s funny I don’t care what anybody says.


5 posted on 01/08/2011 5:32:39 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: DainBramage

LOL! That has got to be the winner of the line of the week award.


6 posted on 01/08/2011 5:47:43 AM PST by MCF
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To: marktwain

Chuck Taylor? Of Converse High Tops?

WTF? Not one more word at ammoland than was in the article above.

And what was the article composition? A third grade class project?
No mention of what H&K model was used. There are at least 4 different models besides the USP. That like saying a Ford just went it’s 50,000th mile without anb oil change. Uh, car? Truck? The article from ammoland was totally useless.


7 posted on 01/08/2011 5:50:20 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: DainBramage

LMAO!!!!


8 posted on 01/08/2011 5:52:51 AM PST by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: marktwain

Exactly what I was going to post. 50K isn’t even a break in for the Glock pistols. I’m sure H&K is proud of their product but it’s a long way from the Glock standard of reliability.


9 posted on 01/08/2011 5:59:41 AM PST by cbvanb
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To: marktwain

Ok. After a LOT of digging & a very painful read, here’s the skinny:
http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?122502-HK45-Endurance-Test-on-pistol-training.com

“As announced previously, the 2010 pistol-training.com endurance test will be of a

Heckler & Koch HK45 full size LEM.”

First he gripes about the trigger spring, then the magazine floorplate lip, then the sights.
I thought it was an endurance test between cleanings? Lock it in a Ransom Rest & start firing. He writes like he is prepping for a world class match.

“Since then, I took my Everyman’s Home Gunsmithing Kit (dremel) and recontoured the stupid floorplates. I’ll post pics next week, but it is much more comfortable for me and I’m no longer throwing shots simply by gripping the gun properly.I’ve also added Heinie Straight Eight QWIK sights.”


10 posted on 01/08/2011 6:10:04 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: marktwain

I wonder what the record is for the 1911?


11 posted on 01/08/2011 6:24:26 AM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: marktwain
1000 Round Glock Torture Test:

Part one

Part two

12 posted on 01/08/2011 6:27:25 AM PST by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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To: DainBramage

You could have avoided this by not limp wristing your shots.
/sarc


13 posted on 01/08/2011 6:46:00 AM PST by Recon Dad ( Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.”)
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To: marktwain

We’ve put about 125,000 through our MP-5.One re-barrel and a couple of extractors springs were the only problems.


14 posted on 01/08/2011 6:46:55 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cbvanb
I’m sure H&K is proud of their product but it’s a long way from the Glock standard of reliability.

AGREED.

15 posted on 01/08/2011 6:53:15 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: MCF; DainBramage
LOL! That has got to be the winner of the line of the week award.

I agree with you on Dainbramage's line - outstanding.

I heard a good one yesterday from a friend.

He told me he heard a new term for "camel-toe"...

SMUGGLING YO-YOS.

As a former active-duty Marine with a typically twisted sense of humor, I appreciated that one.

16 posted on 01/08/2011 6:59:49 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: MCF; DainBramage
LOL! That has got to be the winner of the line of the week award.

I agree with you on Dainbramage's line - outstanding.

I heard a good one yesterday from a friend.

He told me he heard a new term for "camel-toe"...

SMUGGLING YO-YOS.

As a former active-duty Marine with a typically twisted sense of humor, I appreciated that one.

17 posted on 01/08/2011 7:08:35 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: rickb308
dude... HK45 IS the model name/number
18 posted on 01/08/2011 7:42:19 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

So USP & P7 are not models? What are they? H&K is the brand. 45 is the caliber.


19 posted on 01/08/2011 7:52:48 AM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: DocH
"I’m sure H&K is proud of their product but it’s a long way from the Glock standard of reliability."

I own these in both... HK $ Glock. , .40 and .45. The USP is is an amazing handgun; far as I'm concerned, second to none in quality. It's simply built better than the glock IMHO. Both are equally reliable and my bias comes in due to handling characteristics. The USP just handles and feels better to me... much better balance.

Again, just my persona opinion. I really like the Glock stuff too, but I had to inject my bias.. of course!

20 posted on 01/08/2011 8:02:49 AM PST by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: mountainlion

“I wonder what the record is for the 1911?”

I’m a huge fan, but I gotta say, they need a lot of attention, even the old sloppy ones. (There’s a sexist joke in their somewhere). But the upside is, they’re such objects of beauty I never tire of cleaning them.

And for people’s amusement, if you haven’t already enjoyed this:

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2007/10/09/hk-because-you-suck-and-we-hate-you/


21 posted on 01/08/2011 8:47:35 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: rickb308

HK45

The HK45 was developed as a product improvement of the highly regarded USP45, first released in the 1995. The Caliber .45 ACP HK45 includes several user-inspired enhancements including changeable grip panels (backstraps), a Picatinny MIL-STD-1913 accessory rail, better ergonomics, and more ambidextrous controls.

Along with the HK45 Compact, the HK45 was developed as a possible candidate for the Joint Combat Pistol (JCP) and Combat Pistol (CP) programs administered by the U.S. military in their search for a new service handgun to replace the 9-millimeter M9. These programs were suspended before completion and no pistols were selected.

The HK45 uses an HK proprietary O-ring barrel for precise barrel-to-slide lockup and optimal accuracy. HK45 barrels are made using the famous HK cold-hammer forging process for superior performance.

Using HK’s unique internal mechanical recoil reduction system reduces the recoil forces imparted to the weapon and shooter by as much as 30%, improving shooter control during rapid firing and increasing component service life. Capable of firing standard .45 ACP ball through +P ammunition, the HK45 combines the accuracy, modularity, reliability and minimum 20,000 round service life of the famed USP45 series with the improved ergonomics of the P2000 series pistols. HK45 models can be also be fitted with threaded barrels for use with muzzle mounted sound suppressors.

Each HK45 comes standard with an extra backstrap; medium and small interchangeable backstraps ensure an optimal fit for most shooter’s hands and complement the ergonomic profile grip.

An improved USP-style control lever, a combination safety and decocking lever, is frame mounted on the HK45 and is quickly accessible. The HK45 control lever has a positive stop and returns to the “fire” position after decocking.

By using the modular approach to the internal components first pioneered by HK on the USP, the control lever function of the HK45 can be switched from the left to the right side of the pistol to accommodate left-handed shooters (additional parts required). Left and right mounted control levers provide safety and/or decocking functions as required and can be fitted to the pistol simply by changing parts. For true ambidextrous use, a control lever can also be mounted on both sides of the pistol if required.

Well-suited for personal defense use, the HK45 is available in, or can be converted to, a wide variety of variants that use different trigger firing modes, including double action/single action (DA/SA) and DAO (double action only). The DAO mode uses the unique Heckler & Koch LEM (Law Enforcement Modification) firing system for improved double action trigger pull.

Extensively tested and operationally proven, the HK45 Series is a new paradigm for Heckler & Koch handgun design and manufacturing and is currently being made at HK’s new American manufacturing facility in Newington, New Hampshire.

Key features and system characteristics:

Suggested Retail Price: $1,147 (DA/SA with control lever), $1,237 (LEM enhanced DAO model without control lever).

22 posted on 01/08/2011 9:01:11 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode


23 posted on 01/08/2011 9:24:04 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: marktwain
Chuck Taylor documented putting 276,000 rounds through a Glock 17, and there are claims of rental Glock pistols having over 400,000 rounds through them with only minor problems.

When putting that many rounds through a firearm, would one use something beyond a typical speedloader for the magazine? I would think loading that many rounds would be rather a chore. Actually, even just having to change magazines many thousands of times would get annoying. I wonder if there are any automated machines to handle that sort of thing?

24 posted on 01/08/2011 9:48:43 AM PST by supercat (Barry Soetoro == Bravo Sierra)
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To: rickb308
see post#22/23
25 posted on 01/08/2011 11:08:29 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: supercat

These “tests” are conducted over a number of years while keeping track of the rounds fired, so they do not use any exotic loading equipment.

I have heard of people using multiple volunteers to load magazines.


26 posted on 01/08/2011 4:23:09 PM PST by marktwain
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To: Chode

I stand corrected. I apologize. I did not know that they developed one with such a “plain” name. I have the 45 USP & 45 USP Compact, & I am familiar with the USP Tactical, USP Expert, USP Elite, & the P7.
P.S. Thank you for the informative post.


27 posted on 01/08/2011 9:52:43 PM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: rickb308
most welcome... hell of a gun
28 posted on 01/09/2011 5:05:29 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: supercat

they had a friend who loaded a stack of mags for them. Also, if you have a mag loader, which is a simple plastic and metal affair, its easy to load em.


29 posted on 01/09/2011 8:21:33 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (Montani Semper Liberi)
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