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Mexico violence: Headless bodies found in Acapulco
BBC ^ | 8 January 2011

Posted on 01/08/2011 9:56:39 AM PST by Racehorse

The decapitated bodies of 15 young men have been found in the Mexican beach resort of Acapulco.

Police said they were discovered near a shopping centre and were all aged between 15 and 25.

They were dumped there by drug cartel members fighting over the control of the drugs business in the city.

SNIP

In this latest violent incident, police responding to a report of a burning vehicle near Acapulco's Plaza Senderos shopping centre shortly after midnight found five other abandoned vehicles and the decapitated bodies.

Media reports say that three messages signed by Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman, leader of the Sinaloa cartel and Mexico's most wanted drug baron, were found alongside the bodies.

The messages reportedly said that the attack was a warning against criminal groups fighting Mr Guzman's organisation.

It is believed to be the largest single group of decapitation victims found since President Calderon launched his offensive against the cartels.

Acapulco is in an area of Mexico where the drug trade is controlled by La Familia Michoacana, one of the most violent cartels.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: acapulco; beheading; cartel; drugcartel; drugs; immigration; law; mexico; themexicoway; wod
The slaughter goes on . . .
1 posted on 01/08/2011 9:56:39 AM PST by Racehorse
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To: Racehorse

Coming soon to Los Angeles.


2 posted on 01/08/2011 10:00:49 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Racehorse


Mexico violence: Headless bodies found in Acapulco

Besides being horrifing, this event has some irony.
The other night travel consultant Peter Greenburg appeared on O’Reilly’s show.
Greenburg haggled with O’Reilly when he said he’d NOT vacation
in Mexico due to the drug-war violence.
Greenburg insisted that the resort areas were safe.

Not now it appears!


3 posted on 01/08/2011 10:06:49 AM PST by VOA
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To: Racehorse


Mexico violence: Headless bodies found in Acapulco

Besides being horrifing, this event has some irony.
The other night travel consultant Peter Greenburg appeared on O’Reilly’s show.
Greenburg haggled with O’Reilly when he said he’d NOT vacation
in Mexico due to the drug-war violence.
Greenburg insisted that the resort areas were safe.

Not now it appears!


4 posted on 01/08/2011 10:07:17 AM PST by VOA
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To: Racehorse

NYC still wins! Their headless body was found in a topless bar.


5 posted on 01/08/2011 10:10:31 AM PST by JPG (YES SHE CAN!)
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To: VOA

It’s still all drug related. You don’t go out in TJ after 2am looking for drugs, you will find problems. You don’t go out in Detroit at 2am either. The cartels are killing each other. Sometimes in the USA innocent bystanders are also killed. I would venture to say that there are violent drug related deaths everyday in the USA.


6 posted on 01/08/2011 10:15:47 AM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: Racehorse

People used to scold me for calling Mexico a criminal state. Mexico is corrupt because it’s culture, including its government are completely corrupt, and we are encouraging that corruption to come here. All the stolen vehicles, the people killed by illegals driving drunk, people murdered, the drugs, the gangs, the rapes, the crowed emergency rooms, out of work Americans don’t seem to effect the amnesty givers, but maybe headless bodies on their street corners might.


7 posted on 01/08/2011 10:20:10 AM PST by pallis
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To: Racehorse

Yo, Turd-in-chief,

Is this AMERICA’S fault too?

Did they use U.S. made guns to DECAPITATE these people?

Hmmm?

Is this WHY you WANT ILLEGAL immigrants to get amnesdy and become citizens here even if they have have broken OTHER American laws? Yes, I know, you want to DESTROY out country and don’t miss a beat or an angle to do it.


8 posted on 01/08/2011 10:21:39 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: VOA

Why doesn’t Obama vacation there?

He could bring the whole tribe and feel at home with people that decapitate others. Let him live like a king there. Eventually they’ll get to him.


9 posted on 01/08/2011 10:24:16 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: cromero
It's still all drug related. . . . I would venture to say that there are violent drug related deaths everyday in the USA.

That is true. But, you're not seriously equating the low frequency of drug related deaths in our country with the butchery and carnage savaging Mexico, are you?

Many large companies here in San Antonio no longer permit their employees to make calls on business clients and prospects in Mexico. The armed forces have told the troops, "stay out of Mexico."

10 posted on 01/08/2011 10:28:40 AM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: pallis

“People used to scold me for calling Mexico a criminal state. Mexico is corrupt because it’s culture, including its government are completely corrupt, and we are encouraging that corruption to come here. All the stolen vehicles, the people killed by illegals driving drunk, people murdered, the drugs, the gangs, the rapes, the crowed emergency rooms, out of work Americans don’t seem to effect the amnesty givers, but maybe headless bodies on their street corners might.”

These are unplugged OBAMA people. THIS is what OBAMA is comfortable with and WANTS here. Obama HATES America and this is another way to DESTROY U.S. by giving amnesdy to criminals like himself. Obama has NO REGARD or RESPECT for our LAWS. Obama is as LAWLESS as these thugs in Mexico.


11 posted on 01/08/2011 10:29:20 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: VOA

Why doesn’t Obama vacation there?

He could bring the whole tribe and feel at home with people that decapitate others. Let him live like a king there. Eventually they’ll get to him.


12 posted on 01/08/2011 10:38:22 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: pallis

I was called a ‘’racist a-hole’’ on this site for voicing exactly the sentiments you just did. I agree with you that Mexico is a society totally corrupt at every level and shows absolutely no inclination whatsoever to change. I despise these people for the waste, the lawlessness and criminality they embrace. Not content with destroying their own country their destroying our country in the process.


13 posted on 01/08/2011 10:41:22 AM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: cromero
"It’s still all drug related."

No it's not just drug related. More accurately it's gang related. As in who gets to rob people, take their cars at gun point, distribute liquor to the bars, collect the municipal trash, and run the hookers. I've got family there. I've lived there. You're not safe calling for taxi cab to take you somewhere because the driver will make a little "detour" down a side street where his buddies are waiting for you. It happened to me. I had to hold the driver at knife point and order him not to stop for his friends. My uncle was robbed at 10 in the morning, in the central shopping district, with hundreds of onlookers. Nobody did a thing. They've gunned down people in restaurants, retail shops, and in front of schools when victims came for their children. Extreme violence has become the norm for any criminal activity, not just drugs.
14 posted on 01/08/2011 10:50:26 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: JPG
NYC still wins! Their headless body was found in a topless bar.


15 posted on 01/08/2011 12:22:43 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("Better be wise by the misfortunes of others than by your own." -- Aesop)
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To: Racehorse

An African newspaper once ran a series of headlines:
“Three Headless Bodies Found”.
The next day: “Three Heads Found”.
The third day: “Heads Don’t Match Bodies”.


16 posted on 01/08/2011 12:26:35 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: nmh

Uh, the name is Barry Hussein Soetoro...and just pick an SSAN at random and you´ll probably come quite close to any of his ten or so numbers.


17 posted on 01/08/2011 1:40:05 PM PST by onedoug
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To: PowderMonkey

I was recently in Polanco D.F. for a month and saw no signs of fear or stress except when my Mexican friend reacted at my suggestion to get a taxi as we were needing to make an appointment. I asked why the hesitation and she said because there had been incidents of the type you described but we were in Polanco going to the other side of Polanco so she thought it would be Ok.

The only other sign of potential extreme violence was at the entrances to some of the upscale shopping malls where a security guard would be armed with a heavy machine gun which seemed out of place with all the shoppers coming and going just as one would see here in the USA.

On another shopping center site, my friend’s 18 year old son and I went to the Liverpool store in the Sante Fe district, at night. We parked in the outside parking lot and went into the mall. There were no heavily armed guards, no incidents and no sign of fear or stress. Everything was normal, very well lit outside, upscale just as in the USA.

Mexico City is a huge place, more than 20 million people and I was in districts that were considered safe. Still I was made aware by my friends that there were dangers but they seemed well adapted and happy. Maybe the fear and stress was not much more different than being in NYC.

We drove to Acapulco and ate out at restaurants. We stayed in a gated condo development. Everything seemed normal, no unusual stress or fear even when out and about on the strip there. It was definitely nothing like some of the border towns. The streets were clean, modern, well-lit, good traffic signals, people driving and behaving normally. We went to a wedding reception on the north end of Acapulco and it was the older part but it did not seem terribly unsafe.

Mexico is a country of many contrasts. I saw the good part but I did not doubt that extreme violence could be found in other sectors that I did not go to. From what I have been told, the Mexico today has a ‘Columbia problem’ in that many of the cartels were started by and developed by cartels that were exiled from Columbia.

If you had plenty of funding and political power, how would you see Mexico improving so that people could feel it was a safe destination with a strong rule of law?


18 posted on 01/09/2011 1:03:56 AM PST by Hostage
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To: Hostage
Solution? Step One is addressing official corruption. What you've described is the complacent tranquility of the herd. Shopping, restaurants, scenic views. There is no problem, or danger...until something bad happens. My family there has accepted life as prey animals. Preyed upon by police and criminals. No one leaves the house on a Saturday night without sufficient money to bribe police in the event they're stopped. No bribe money? Then, you're taken into custody and held for ransom until your family pays up. It has happened to my family several times. As my family members there once said, “corruption exists everywhere. The difference is Americans do something about it.”
19 posted on 01/09/2011 6:45:43 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Racehorse

You need to look at the big picture. American Drug related crimes are 25% of all violent crimes. See the attached link.
http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbName=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32348
In examining the State and Federal prison inmates who reported being under the influence of drugs at the time of their offense, the Bureau of Justice Statistics (1997) reports the following:
§ 24.5 percent (24.5%) of Federal and 29 percent (29%) of State prison inmates reported being under the influence of drugs when committing violent offenses.
§ 10.8 percent (10.8%) of Federal and 36.6 percent (36.6%) of State inmates reported being under the influence of drugs while committing property offenses.
§ 25 percent (25%) of Federal and 41.9 percent (41.9%) of inmates reported being under the influence of drugs when committing drug offenses.
§ 24.4 percent (24.4%) of Federal and 22.4 percent (22.4%) of State prison inmates reported being under the influence of drugs when committing weapon offenses.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 7:52:29 PM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: cromero
You need to look at the big picture. American Drug related crimes are 25% of all violent crimes. See the attached link.

Thanks for the link and statistics, cromero. They have interest and value, no doubt. But, they do not point me to the big picture you wish me to see.

From the conclusion: "Yet, without more evidence, it is impossible to say quantitatively how much drugs influence the occurrence of crime."

To my mind, there is every reason to believe the statistics in the report you thought I should read. They've been demonstrated for decades, over and over again. Drug and alcohol fuel a significant portion of crime in the United States.

The carnage carried out in Mexico is no less than an insurgency in which drug cartels effectively control sections of the country. Americans addicted to or abusing drugs (including alcohol) are not systematically chopping off heads, assassinating public officials, terrorizing the general populace, or fighting pitched battles with the police, soldiers and marines. The fear is that if Mexico does not defeat the insurgency then the violence will spill over into our nation.

There is no equivalence between what is taking place in Mexico and our drug (including alcohol) related criminal activity. If every American drug and alcohol user and abuser were supplied by Mexican criminal organizations, there would still be no equivalence. The Mexican cartel bosses are no less than warlords who threaten to make Mexico a criminal state and threaten our national security in the process.

21 posted on 01/09/2011 9:26:49 PM PST by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Racehorse

I’m not saying that they are equivalent. i’m saying that we have the just as much drug crime or more than Mexico. You just don’t see mass murders.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 8:57:36 PM PST by cromero (Lead, Follow or Get out of the Way)
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To: cromero


You don’t go out in Detroit at 2am either.

Apologies for the late reply

I recall a vivid article from the late 1970s about an extended family
of Chaldean (Syrian?) Christians that operated a chain of convenience stores
in Detroit.
Even at that time they worked as a small group armed with Uzzis when
closing down for the night and taking the day’s cash to the bank.

Surely opened the eyes of this small-town Okie to the sh-t in the
big (Democratic-run!) city!!!


23 posted on 01/21/2011 2:21:48 AM PST by VOA
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