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Let's face it, if this had been a Republican event-VANITY
Me | 1/8/11 | self

Posted on 01/08/2011 6:43:23 PM PST by SonofReagan

If this had been a Republican event in Tucson today there would have been just one death, the gunmen. Several in that kind of a crowd would have pulled their weapons and aeriated him immediately.

Leftists! You started this war and one of your own contiunued it today.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: chat; giffords; killed; republican; thisaintnews; vanity

1 posted on 01/08/2011 6:43:23 PM PST by SonofReagan
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To: SonofReagan

I know several CHL holders in local Republican and Tea Party circles.


2 posted on 01/08/2011 6:54:08 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: SonofReagan
Maybe it's just me but the bodies of the dead aren't even cold yet. There will be time for a more sober analysis later perhaps. The tone of this just seems a bit harsh this soon after a 9 year-old (and 5 others) was blown away.

Like I said, maybe it's just me.

3 posted on 01/08/2011 7:05:32 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: muir_redwoods

It’s not just you.


4 posted on 01/08/2011 7:07:03 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: SonofReagan

Ditto that...especially here in Texas!


5 posted on 01/08/2011 7:10:23 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: muir_redwoods

I agree,


6 posted on 01/08/2011 7:13:29 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: SonofReagan

This is a war of marketing and the left is good at this game. They have, in the minds of most, successfully spun this shooter, the Discover channel shooter, and the IRS plane bomber as all ‘right wingers’ even though every single one of them were overt leftists.

It is just like how they have painted the ‘right’ as racists even though their side is the one with the history of racism.

We need to realize how they play this game and it is important piece of the bigger puzzle, almost as important as the principles.

It is a learning moment for us as in all of these cases. Learn how the left reacts. See how they control the news cycle. See how they frame the definitions and events. We don’t need to compromise our principles to fight on that battle ground as well.


7 posted on 01/08/2011 7:17:52 PM PST by mnehring
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To: NYTexan

Democrat or Republican, here in IN the thumbstraps going off would have sounded like popcorn.


8 posted on 01/08/2011 7:19:10 PM PST by tumblindice (Henry Fonda won a Bronze Star, his daughter won our contempt)
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To: muir_redwoods

The dust hasn’t even settled and the spin meisters are attempting to spin a story they don’t understand .......... ridiculous.


9 posted on 01/08/2011 7:20:24 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SonofReagan

I have attended five Tea Party events; first one, concealed carry, the rest open carry.

Always got a positive response, and usually an admission of carrying themselves.

I don’t know if no one else would have been wounded, but I can guaran-damn-tee you the perp wouldn’t have survived.


10 posted on 01/08/2011 7:23:36 PM PST by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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To: SonofReagan
"Loughner's profile listed Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels's "The Communist Manifesto" and Adolf Hitler's "Mein Kampf" among his favorite books."

Hugely important point: the shooter loves both International Socialism and National Socialism -- but who is the mainstream media (bless their lying hearts) going to blame: Conservatives.

Also note: the US Army has now reported that shooter was rejected for military service in 2008.
That stopped the original claims that this fellow was a veteran of Afghanistan!

11 posted on 01/08/2011 7:24:57 PM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: muir_redwoods

Not just you. Very bad taste.


12 posted on 01/08/2011 7:26:01 PM PST by douginthearmy
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To: tumblindice

LOL...


13 posted on 01/08/2011 7:28:36 PM PST by NYTexan
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To: muir_redwoods; SonofReagan

It’s not just you. This kind of crap makes us all look bad. Would not be surprised if it the thread shows up on some other site.


14 posted on 01/08/2011 7:35:56 PM PST by NucSubs
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To: muir_redwoods

Not just you.


15 posted on 01/08/2011 7:36:11 PM PST by troublesome creek
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To: SonofReagan

The Kos Kiddies were going on about how the new AZ law allowing no-permit concealed carry “exacerbated” this situation.

Right. Like this numb-nut wouldn’t have shot anyone if he’d been required to have a permit. /s

They are so dumb. They’re really dumb. And you can run and tell that, homeboy.


16 posted on 01/08/2011 7:38:37 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: SonofReagan

The Kos Kiddies were going on about how the new AZ law allowing no-permit concealed carry “exacerbated” this situation.

Right. Like this numb-nut wouldn’t have shot anyone if he’d been required to have a permit. /s

They are so dumb. They’re really dumb. And you can run and tell that, homeboy.


17 posted on 01/08/2011 7:38:51 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: SonofReagan
"If this had been a Republican event in Tucson today there would have been just one death, the gunmen."

One death --- gunMEN?

18 posted on 01/08/2011 7:40:36 PM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: muir_redwoods

Thank you for being a voice of reason in the face of such a tragedy.


19 posted on 01/08/2011 7:42:28 PM PST by gablelomb
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To: SonofReagan
That's just stupid. If someone gets head shot there is no time for anyone to react. This is bad for America its not a partisan issue of the GOP being better armed..get a clue
20 posted on 01/08/2011 7:42:53 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: SonofReagan

Can you imagine what would have occurred had this been Sarah Palin? Outside of the jokes that would have been made of course. They are quick to blame the Tea Party, who are as docile as 55 yr old white folks that the MSM bill as terrorists. What worries me is that some smart ass Liberal Attorney will have this guy change his story and have him confess to being on the Tea Party payroll. With the current AG I have a greater worry that something will be covered up.


21 posted on 01/08/2011 7:45:58 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: SonofReagan

You are quite possibly right. Conservatives in general are more apt to take care of them selves. Tucson has a lot of liberal folks living there. So glad there was at least one person who took action. We were not there. Maybe it happened so fast no one had time to react.

I have two questions: 1) what was the “gunman” shooting? The round that hit Giffords was a through and through. .22?
and 2) WHERE WAS SECURITY? Don’t congress people have security at events? How about a uniformed cop or two? Something doesn’t seem right to me.

My heart is broken that this is taking place in the state that I love. Our family extends our condolences and prayers to the families of those who have lost loved ones and those who were injured. Regardless of their politics, they are human beings.


22 posted on 01/08/2011 7:49:59 PM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: muir_redwoods
You're not alone.

The Left has been just as bad making today all about political strategy and propaganda.

23 posted on 01/08/2011 7:55:27 PM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tuscon shooting.)
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To: muir_redwoods
It is not just you. Within minutes of the shootings the liberal left media was in full lying rant mode. They didn't have a clue of why this happened so they just made up lies and screamed.
We still do not know why this jerk killed these innocent people. Not one true conservative or Tea Party member has endorsed these murders. It is clear now he had no connection to the right in any way. What we know from those who knew this monster point to him being a far left crazy. I do not believe that him being a far left zealot indicates that he represents how the left feels or acts. That is crazy too. What pisses me off is the lies that the left media is pumping out. The tea party should sue them and demand they prove what they are saying. They need to be held accountable for their bold faced lies. They need to pay dearly for their intentional deception of the public. If there is any true justice in this country those judgments would keep the tea party movement well funded for the next few years.
24 posted on 01/08/2011 7:57:21 PM PST by oldenuff2no (Rangers lead the way...... Delta, the original European home land security)
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To: SonofReagan

If this were a Republican event, the same folks who are keening about how this is all Sarah Palin and the Tea Party’s fault would be cheering.


25 posted on 01/08/2011 7:59:43 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: SonofReagan

I think it is hyperbole to call this “war” .....maybe its ok to say “culture war” or “political war”

After all Dems did relinquish control of the House....and in January of 2013 if those on the right are able to convince enough people to vote accordingly, Obama will also relinquish control ....and no “war” is called for


26 posted on 01/08/2011 8:08:23 PM PST by woofie
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To: stansblugrassgrl

There was no security. The sheriff said she does not do security at these events and it’s only provided when a threat is expected.

The gunman used a glock.

The MySpace site photo of a handgun on a U.S. History Book featuring the presidents on the cover appears to be a 19mm, maybe the compact 19.


27 posted on 01/08/2011 8:20:33 PM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tuscon shooting.)
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To: NucSubs

You’re in a war you fool. You’re on this site and should know that. Shut up.


28 posted on 01/08/2011 8:25:09 PM PST by SonofReagan
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To: montanajoe

You’re in a war you fool. You’re on this site and should know that. Shut up.


29 posted on 01/08/2011 8:26:20 PM PST by SonofReagan
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To: douginthearmy

You’re in a war you fool. You’re on this site and should know that. Shut up.


30 posted on 01/08/2011 8:27:27 PM PST by SonofReagan
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To: newzjunkey

Thanks. I just read that it was a Glock.


31 posted on 01/08/2011 8:28:35 PM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: BroJoeK

Just to clarify: this disturbed young man also cited an Ayn Rand book and _Animal Farm_, as well as Plato. This is an admixture of ideologies which is neither left nor right, but the jumblings of a sick mind. ANYONE using political labels at this point is ill-informed and should delay pronouncements.

This applies to Freepers as much as it does to the media.


32 posted on 01/08/2011 8:29:52 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: TexNewMex

Yes.

Was about to make a similar post - thanks for saving me the effort.


33 posted on 01/08/2011 8:46:38 PM PST by crescen7 (game on)
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To: SonofReagan
Note to Congresscritters: get your heads out of your a**es and hire military and police veterans to be your staffers, not well-connected DC insider metrosexuals who've never touched a firearm. Pay for them to get their concealed firearms permits, and keep them around you at public events.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

34 posted on 01/08/2011 9:02:54 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: crescen7

Thanks for letting me know I’m not alone in this. Every thread I read includes this rhetoric, and it’s incredibly upsetting. On one thread, a commenter said Ms. Giffords was “a full blown kook shot by one of her own team members”. It’s sickening.


35 posted on 01/08/2011 9:06:24 PM PST by TexNewMex
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To: muir_redwoods
You're right, but unfortunately, the Leftist full-court press is on, and we can't just stand here, letting them pummel us, while their vicious and blatant lies take root. As distasteful as it may seem, we have to fight back, and it can't wait for later.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

36 posted on 01/08/2011 9:07:54 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: SonofReagan

If this had been a Republican event and dead republicans all over the DUhmmmies would be cheering

simple as that


37 posted on 01/08/2011 9:11:20 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: montanajoe; SonofReagan

I agree.


38 posted on 01/08/2011 9:40:51 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: TexNewMex; crescen7
TexNewMex: "Just to clarify: this disturbed young man also cited an Ayn Rand book and _Animal Farm_, as well as Plato."

I understand, and I also note the media is combing through his various rantings to find anything anything that sounds remotely "conservative" -- while ignoring the obvious.

The obvious point is that people like Ayn Rand, George Orwell and Plato never advocated violent revolution.

But violence and revolution are the core of what International Socialism (Karl Marx) and National Socialism (Adolf Hitler) are all about.

Of course, I'm not saying the shooter isn't nuts.
But tonight the mainstream media is staying up late trying to figure out how to blame this on Rush Limbaugh, or Glen Beck or Mark Levin, for Christ's sake.

Or Free Republic. Think about that...

39 posted on 01/09/2011 2:27:40 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK
BroJoeK: "George Orwell... never advocated violent revolution."

Correction... if I remember correctly, Orwell was a former communist, so Animal Farm and 1984 reflected his disillusionment with his previous beliefs.

Yes, as a former Communist, Orwell had advocated violent revolution.
But those are not the values we see in his later writings.

40 posted on 01/09/2011 2:37:37 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...
Thanks SonofReagan.
Leftists! You started this war and one of your own continued it today.

41 posted on 01/09/2011 6:14:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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Whoops, missed.
Leftists! You started this war and one of your own continued it today.

42 posted on 01/09/2011 6:15:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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