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Accused Tucson Gunman Described as 'Pot-smoking Loner'
KTLA ^ | 7:27 p.m. PST, January 8, 2011 | KTLA staff

Posted on 01/08/2011 7:59:25 PM PST by Diogenez

TUSCON, Ariz ( KTLA) -- Jared Lee Loughner, the alleged Tucson gunman, was described Saturday as a politically radical loner. Now an internet trail emerged in which he apparently railed against the US government and told friends: "Please don't be mad at me".

There are unconfirmed reports that 22 year old Jared Lee Loughner once met with Rep. Giffords in 2007. A former high school friend said that he had often talked about meeting and talking with the congresswoman.

Arizona court records show Loughner has twice been charged with previous offenses. The first, in October 2007, related to the possession of drug paraphernalia. It was unclear what the second, a year later, related to. Both charges were dismissed after Loughner completed a "diversion program".

People who knew him described him as philosophical, a person who read a lot of books. On his YouTube page, Loughner listed among his favorite books "The Communist Manifesto," "Siddhartha," "The Old Man And The Sea," "Gulliver's Travels," "Mein Kampf," "The Republic" and "Meno."

One former high school friend Tweeted about knowing the accused gunman: "He was a pot head and into rock, like Hendrix, The Doors, Anti-Flag," she wrote. "I haven't seen him in person since 2007 in a sign language class. As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy. He had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in 2006 and dropped out of school. Mainly a loner, very philosophical."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2007; 200710; assassinationplots; gabriellegiffords; giffords; lefties; leftwing; loughner; potheads; radical; signlanguage
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Anybody remember how "right wing violence" was named by the major media as the implied cause for the Kennedy assassination in the first hours?
1 posted on 01/08/2011 7:59:28 PM PST by Diogenez
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To: Diogenez

I’m shocked this report actually came from my local news station KTLA..they actually mention that he is a flaming liberal, about damn time SOMEONE in the media grows a pair


2 posted on 01/08/2011 8:01:44 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Diogenez

Here from his youtube posting:

“BoyBlue’s diary :: ::

Fast forward to this election season. A weirdo asshole named Jesse Kelly who advocated ELIMINATING Social Security and was a tea bagger favorite got the GOP nom to run against her. I am gay and had been married and my spouse left me January 15, 2010. I shot myself in the mouth in a serious suicide attempt, because of that. Barely surviving, I spent two months in the hospital and still have some paralysis. I did receive a severance from my employer, as i had been laid off in December, 2009. That may have been part of the reason my spouse left me.

Anyway, after months of physical and mental rehab, I got back into the political scene and started working for Gabby once again. I raised over $100,000 for her and maxed her out myself out of my severance, even though i still don’t have work and could not qualify for state aid because of my severance.

She wins her re-election and told me she was still a supporter of Speaker Pelosi at her victory party. We talked about how Nancy Pelosi was a successful woman and accomplished oh so much in just four years as Speaker.

Today, just a little while ago, I saw on Andrea Mitchell Reports (out of the one eye in can still see out of) that Giffords voted AGAINST Nancy Pelosi as our Minority Leader. Rhetorical question: I fought back from my condition and jumped in with both feet to help Gabrielle Giffords for THIS shit???

Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords is dead to me now. I won’t lift a finger, make one phone call, nor will i EVER vote for her in the future. And why did she do this? Giffords never told me she was conservative Democrat. And her voting record is okay. Damn. “


3 posted on 01/08/2011 8:02:03 PM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race.)
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To: Diogenez

“...a person who read a lot of books...”

Yep. Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto, anything by Bill Ayers...

*SPIT*


4 posted on 01/08/2011 8:02:14 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: Diogenez

NO, it was 1963, it seems odd... as the ‘right wing’ statements didn’t really catch on, until Hillary accused them of inventing things to hurt Bill Clinton.


5 posted on 01/08/2011 8:02:19 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Diogenez

He’s a very disturbed young man in deep do-do....


6 posted on 01/08/2011 8:03:22 PM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Diogenez

He is a run of the mill lefty who just did what all lefties endorse: shut up anyone you disagree with, using force if necessary.


7 posted on 01/08/2011 8:03:39 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: Diogenez

Here we have someone who personally knew him desribing him as “left-wing,” a pothead listening to The Doors and Jimi Hendrix, yer already the word has gone around the world that he’s a product of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement.


8 posted on 01/08/2011 8:04:25 PM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Diogenez

FWIW: Our local (Leftard) media is saying (10pm report) that the gunman opened fire on THE CROWD...the ‘Rat Rep. was NOT singled out as the main target.


9 posted on 01/08/2011 8:05:03 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: 9422WMR

Telling.


10 posted on 01/08/2011 8:05:13 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (..)
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To: Diogenez

Just some poor kid the rats used to get the vote on health care postponed. The one to feel sorry for is the Congress woman they felt they could off without remorse for the “cause”. Except that she survived. A federal judge didn’t make it thought. oops. The rats are absolutely without conscience of any kind.


11 posted on 01/08/2011 8:06:36 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Steve_Seattle
. . . yet already the word has gone around the world that he’s a product of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement.

No one in their right mind would consider this wacko a "product" of conservative principles. One could surmise, however, that conservative principles were such anathema that they drove him over the edge. Not even Giffords was conservative enough.

12 posted on 01/08/2011 8:17:27 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew (..)
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To: 9422WMR

boyblue IS NOT the shooter. Critical thinking people. The shooter is 22. In 2002 he would have been 14. That actually isn’t even from the guys youtube, its from the DailyKos and it is an excerpt.


13 posted on 01/08/2011 8:17:43 PM PST by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: Diogenez

I’m sure by tomorrow the MSM will be describing him as a right wing Tea Party radical


14 posted on 01/08/2011 8:18:12 PM PST by slumber1 (Texas Rangers - 2010 American League Champions!)
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To: 9422WMR

Do we know for sure that the Kos poster “Blueboy” is the shooter?

I haven’t seen that connection made yet.


15 posted on 01/08/2011 8:19:06 PM PST by digger48
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To: 9422WMR

Do we know for sure that the Kos poster “Blueboy” is the shooter?

I haven’t seen that connection made yet.


16 posted on 01/08/2011 8:19:06 PM PST by digger48
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To: aft_lizard

Same deal as Lee Harvey not being the shooter — the shooter was the freaking driver of the limo if you watch the video.


17 posted on 01/08/2011 8:20:22 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: 9422WMR
Has it been confirmed that he's "Boy Blue"? If so, he's also flaming homo.

A flaming homo libtard who's also a flag burning anti-American. Hmmmm....had he gotten into the Army, they'd have had another Bradley Manning on their hands. Only this one probably would've fragged his fellow troops instead of handing top secret documents over to Julian ASSange.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

18 posted on 01/08/2011 8:21:04 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Kackikat; Diogenez

“Right Wing” was commonly used B.C. (Before Clinton) The Clinton’s can’t lay claim to that one.


19 posted on 01/08/2011 8:22:01 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: digger48

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10#p/a/u/1/nHoaZaLbqB4

there you go....


20 posted on 01/08/2011 8:22:19 PM PST by 9422WMR (Illegal is not a race.)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Does anyone know if the shooter is still alive?


21 posted on 01/08/2011 8:23:26 PM PST by funfan
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To: digger48

Or is this “other guy” being talked about this BlueBoy?” Couldn’t do the deed himself due to the damaged eye he suffered during his suicide attempt, so got his also homosexual underling to do it for him...

I’m not a CSI agent, but I p,ay one on t.v. ...


22 posted on 01/08/2011 8:23:47 PM PST by Per-Ling
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To: yldstrk

When are the talking heads going to figure out that the NEA is ultimately responsible for this?


23 posted on 01/08/2011 8:23:51 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Diogenez

Well I remember about 90 minutes ago when Democrat 30 year Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik went off on a rant - not just once but about four times - about how today’s violence was caused by those in “radio and TV” who “inflame” and incite. Dupnik is nearly as dangerous as the perp, he’s WAY out of line and borderline irrational about this to have brought it up so many times - even at the very end as he was leaving the podium he came back to it again for one last rant.

He needs to be taken down a few notches, if not completely out of the picture, he’s lost his objectivity just like he did over the AZ Immigration bill which he called “racist” and refused to enforce.

Pima County residents deserve better than a 75 year old half-deaf leftie with an attitude.


24 posted on 01/08/2011 8:26:12 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Diogenez

It’s pretty clear the more we learn about this guy that if Jesse Kelly had been standing there as Congressman he likely would have been shot, too - Mein Kampf and Communist Manifesto among his favorite books, believed the government was trying to control us through the use of grammar, etc. He was out to kill her as a prominent government official.

It is disgusting that rather than make posts to request prayers and voice concern about those who were killed and wounded in this shooting, the first order of business for some of the liberals was to see how they could use it for political benefit. Immediately Daily Kos posted that Sarah Palin inspired the shooting, others said it must be people involved in the Tea Party.

Although there were a few exceptions among the thousands of us, I am heartened that most of us here on this forum were first concerned with the fact that human beings had been brutally attacked vs. anything political being first and foremost on our minds, the same as we would have been had the Congresswoman been a Republican.


25 posted on 01/08/2011 8:29:43 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Diogenez

It’s open season o conservatives all over the media. Obviously it is too soon for anyone to reconstruct the shooter’smental state and motives, within minutes of the shooting leftists started blaming Sarah Palin and “bigotry”.

But wait a second, this woman was tough on illegal immigrants. Didn’t she just vote against Nancy Pelosi? What evidence is there anywhere that this shooter was motivated by conservatives?

One of the dead includes a federal judge appointed by the elder BUSH. So then was it an attack on republicans?

The liberals were primed to go after conservatives after any incident. Within a short time, Yahoo answers had a poster stating that thsi shooter praised Glenn Beck and Fox News.


26 posted on 01/08/2011 8:30:45 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

>> yer already the word has gone around the world that he’s a product of Sarah Palin and the Tea Party movement.

Exactly.

All the deceitful Media needs to do is exploit emotional Liberals by quoting their thoughtless, reactionary opinions on the issue.


27 posted on 01/08/2011 8:31:04 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Diogenez

No mention in the MSM that the shooter is a Government Employee.

He is probably a member of SEIU, which is known for violence.


28 posted on 01/08/2011 8:31:04 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: digger48
Blueboy has sent out a post tonight apologizing for his statements regarding Gillfords. I doubt the suspect has access to the Internet.
29 posted on 01/08/2011 8:31:58 PM PST by bwc2221 (.)
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To: Diogenez

All that hate stirred up by the left is bound to tip an unstable mind here and there. Judging from the crop of liberals we are cursed with, it is surprising this sort of insanity doesn’t happen more often.


30 posted on 01/08/2011 8:32:06 PM PST by pallis
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To: Diogenez

“he was left wing, quite liberal”


31 posted on 01/08/2011 8:33:19 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: 9422WMR

BoyBlue’s email says his name is Joey Stuart


32 posted on 01/08/2011 8:33:36 PM PST by RatsDawg
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To: funfan
Does anyone know if the shooter is still alive?

Yes, somebody knows.

33 posted on 01/08/2011 8:33:45 PM PST by OCC
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To: bigbob

Dupnik was going to “perp walk” the shooter in public! Can you say “Jack Ruby”? Now I hear the FBI took control of the suspect and cancelled the public exhibition.


34 posted on 01/08/2011 8:34:16 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: 9422WMR

But what’s that got to do with BlueBoy?

Was there a reference to that name or Kos on the shooters youtube page?

What am I missing here?


35 posted on 01/08/2011 8:34:39 PM PST by digger48
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To: 9422WMR

Has that been absolutely identified as his writings? From what I’ve read he ‘met’ Giffords once or twice. The person who wrote this claims to have worked for her and raised thousands $.


36 posted on 01/08/2011 8:36:00 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: digger48

by BoyBlue
Fri Jan 07, 2011 at 09:45:58 AM PST

“I worked for an idiot Mexican-American rightwinger who ran for Congress in the 1990s. And all she did was preach social issues to Latin voters from the rooftops. Well, it didn’t work.”

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/1/7/934062/-Response-to-Latino-Demographic-Thread

It does not seem that way, but who knows what Kos is up to.


37 posted on 01/08/2011 8:36:10 PM PST by Herbster
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To: 9422WMR

here’s what Kossack Blue Boy had to say today about his post: (which you referenced) he’s railing against Freepers, etc.

BLUE BOY”yes i am fully aware. VERY bad timing on my part.

as the understatement of the year. but how was i supposed to know? and i am letting go of my anger at Giffords for helping the media create an anti-Pelosi and anti-111th Congress meme by being one of NINETEEN Democrats who failed to vote for my girl Nancy for Minority Leader. I am OF COURSE sooo glad Giffords looks like she will recover and i so hope she recovers quickly to get back on the horse and and back to representing us. but i still am not happy about her vote against Pelosi.

The freepers, teabaggers, and repugs in general are just trying to preliminarily deflect any blame when it is inevitably found out that this assassin has ties and/or sympathies to the far right. and they know this. i am SURE this killer voted for that fascist fuckball, Jesse Kelly. and i am SURE he’s a registered repug.”

****vitriolic guy, that Blue Boy


38 posted on 01/08/2011 8:37:06 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

Where did you hear that the perp is a government employee?

Not so sure about that.


39 posted on 01/08/2011 8:37:53 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Diogenez

But look at the first paragraph. He “railed” against the government. That’s about as far as most people will read. They don’t identify him as a liberal until the end of the article.


40 posted on 01/08/2011 8:39:08 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: yldstrk
"Just some poor kid the rats used to get the vote on health care postponed."

Isn't ObamaCare officially the Ted Kennedy Memorial Socialized Medicine Bill?

yitbos

41 posted on 01/08/2011 8:40:48 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: funfan
Does anyone know if the shooter is still alive?

Congresswoman shot; gunman in custody[42 min ago.]

42 posted on 01/08/2011 8:42:34 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: slumber1

The MSM will say that no matter that the guy was a liberal or a nut job or both it was still Sarah Palin and talk radio who made him act.

Unless the press is taken over by true journalists who report only the facts, this country is doomed.


43 posted on 01/08/2011 8:42:43 PM PST by Terry Mross
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To: machogirl
The freepers, teabaggers, and repugs in general are just trying to preliminarily deflect any blame when it is inevitably found out that this assassin has ties and/or sympathies to the far right. and they know this. i am SURE this killer voted for that fascist fuckball, Jesse Kelly. and i am SURE he’s a registered repug.”

"He was a pot head and into rock, like Hendrix, The Doors, Anti-Flag," she wrote. "I haven't seen him in person since 2007 in a sign language class. As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy. He had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in 2006 and dropped out of school. Mainly a loner, very philosophical."

You were saying, Mr. foul-mouthed blue boy?

44 posted on 01/08/2011 8:42:49 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: bruinbirdman

This guy’s future is either being adjudicated insane or, in AZ, execution. I’ll be happy to see the latter.


45 posted on 01/08/2011 8:42:53 PM PST by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: 9422WMR

BoyBlue is NOT the shooter.

Just another deranged lefty. I give him kudos for having the sense to shoot himself instead of some innocent human beings though.


46 posted on 01/08/2011 8:43:13 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: digger48
And the connection with "Bue Boy" is where in this rambling drek?

What I see is someone trying to establish a defense in advance of his actions...

47 posted on 01/08/2011 8:43:56 PM PST by norton
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To: Diogenez

A left wing, dope smoking, rocker that reads the radicals. Sounds like a lot of liberal’s resumes.


48 posted on 01/08/2011 8:45:35 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Real Conservatives stay sober and focused)
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To: Diogenez

Sadly Free Republic has some people into pot and into hating LTC Lakin.


49 posted on 01/08/2011 8:45:45 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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