Posted on 01/09/2011 7:24:01 AM PST by KeyLargo
Giffords Shooter Jared Loughner Used a Glock 19 Posted on January 8, 2011 by Robert Farago
The Washington Post is reporting that TTAG’s Brad Kozak was right to say the media was wrong when they rushed to report that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords shooter Jared Loughner used an “automatic rifle” to carry-out his heinous crime. As Brad and I discussed, mortality is limited when you spray a large group of people with a full-auto rifle. Accuracy is difficult as people tend to hit the deck pretty damn quick. Look at the often amazing lack of lethality of drive-by shootings. Loughner had to have aimed pretty carefully to have shot 16 people (five murdered and 11 injured). That said, almost all the reports from the scene claim Loughner was “firing indiscriminately” . . .
The Post reports that Loughner used a Glock 19, originally claiming that the weapon had “an extended clip.” [The above image is from Loughner's Facebook page, deleted within minutes of the attack.]
The Glock 19 has a standard 15-round magazine. CNN reports that 18 people were shot. Either every one of Loughner’s bullets found a target (some more than one), the perp reloaded or he did indeed have a large capacity magazine. Glock sells magazines that hold 19 or 33 rounds, which are banned in some states (as is the gun).
In any case, it’s clear that Loughner was no stranger to guns.
In which of the 57 states are Glocks banned?
I could've told them that and I've never fired an "automatic rifle" in my life. He was way too accurate.
He was also very close.
California
California law prohibits anybody from manufacturing, importing, keeping for sale, offering or exposing for sale, giving, or lending any large capacity magazine. What is “large capacity magazine”? California defines “large capacity magazine” as any feeding device with the
capacity to accept more than ten rounds, but does not include any .22 caliber tube ammunition feeding device.
California Penal Code12020-12040 clearly states…
12020. (a) Any person in this state who does any of the following is punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one
year or in the state prison:
(2) Commencing January 1, 2000, manufactures or causes to be manufactured, imports into the state, keeps for sale, or offers or exposes
for sale, or who gives, or lends, any large capacity magazine.
Hawaii
Hawaii Statute 134-8(c) states…
“The manufacture, possession, sale, barter, trade, gift, transfer, or acquisition of detachable ammunition magazines with a capacity in
excess of ten rounds which are designed for or capable of use with a pistol is prohibited”
Illinois
In the state of Illinois each municipality has their own statuettes regarding high capacity magazines. Aurora, Chicago, Franklin Park, Oak Park, Riverdale
Maryland
Maryland Criminal Law Code 4-305(b) states…
“A person may not manufacture, sell, offer for sale, purchase, receive, or transfer a detachable magazine
that has a capacity of more than 20 rounds of ammunition for a firearm”
This section does not apply to a .22 caliber rifle with a tubular magazine
Massachusetts, New Jersey, and New York all have similar large capacity feeding device bans. Punishable by up to a year in jail and varying fines.
Source:
“State Restrictions on Magazines, Chemical Sprays and Stun Guns”
http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/NoHiCapChemSpray.pdf
http://www.thegunsource.com/high-capacity-magazines.aspx
Most “journalists” don’t know which end of a firearm to stick in their mouths....
Love it!
Glock 19 is a pretty serious weapon for a pothead loon like this to own.
Early reports had mother with “parks and recreation”, could she be a source of such a firearm?
The 9mm is noted for deep penetration, until its been conclusively proven otherwise I believe that in such close proximity that several rounds entered one person, exited and struck another.
I don’t understand....The question was “In which of the 57 states are Glocks banned?”
Your reply listed a bunch of states that banned high capacity magazines.
Are there any states that ban Glock 19 semi-auto pistols?
Not trying to answer for him, but, I live in SW MO and I used to have this GREAT gun shop near me, (he retired) I remember talking to him, and he telling me that he would do business with any state with the exceptions of CA and MA, too many restrictions, and he seriously feared their strange laws.(He phrased it a little more colorfully though.)
If I were to guess, one of those states would ban Glocks.
Hope this helps and I am not trying to start a fight.
Side Note: I love Glocks, big fan of Glock 30, look it up, IMHO, this is close to the ultimate CCW, again, I am not trying to start a fight.
Quick spamming the threads!
He was also a face that they all knew well since he worked for her.
Glock sells magazines that hold 19 or 33 rounds, which are banned in some states (as is the gun).
My question was in what state is the gun banned?
It is possible that the perp used a glock 17 magazine in his mod 19 which holds 17 shots. It can also be used in the mod 26.
Story from one of the ‘Obama Media Group’:
Jan. 8, 2011
Gun Used in Ariz. Shooting Purchased Legally
9mm Glock Used in Shooting That Killed 6 and Injured 13 Was Purchased at Sportsman’s Warehouse in Tucson
(CBS) The semi-automatic pistol Jared Loughner used to kill six and injure 13 others, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, D-Ariz., was purchased legally, according to the Washington Post.
Law enforcement sources told the newspaper that weapon was legally purchased on Nov. 30 at Sportman’s Warehouse in Tucson.
“This stuff should never happen,” store manager Reese Widmier told the Washington Post. “We’re cooperating with the ATF and all the federal agencies to help with this tragic incident.”
Special Section: Tragedy in Tuscon
A source was unsure whether Loughner himself purchased the gun, or if someone else did, reports CBS News. A legal sale would involve the purchaser filling out paperwork and a background check to determine if the buyer is allowed to purchase a gun.
A source with knowledge of the gun involved in Saturday’s shooting says the weapon used was a Glock 19 9mm semi-automatic pistol.
Importantly, the source said, the gun had a high capacity magazine that can hold up to 30 or more rounds, two to three times a normal magazine capacity; and witnesses said the magazine stuck out about 12 inches. The Glock website confirms that, reading that the standard magazine hold 15 rounds, while the high capacity magazine Loughner had can hold up to 33. One reports says the magazine was probably purchased separately.
The high capacity magazine was banned while the federal assault weapons ban was in place during the Clinton administration; the ban was allowed to expire during the Bush administration.
The gun normally retails for $499, a manager at the Tuscon store told CBS News, while declining to confirm the purchase. Sportman’s Warehouse is national chain with stores in 25 states, according to its website
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/01/08/national/main7226879.shtml
Yeah, I know a bunch of dealers who won’t do business with CA, MA, NY or HI just because they’re, shall we say, unpredictable. I’m simply not aware of any state than has a ban on Glocks, per se.
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