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Leaked govt memo: Shooter may be linked to hate group (AmRen founder never heard of Loughner)
Yahoo ^ | 1/09/11 | Liz Goodwin

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:16:55 AM PST by Libloather

Leaked govt memo: Shooter may be linked to hate group
By Liz Goodwin
29 mins ago

According to a leaked memo obtained by Fox News, the Department of Homeland Security is looking into the possibility that suspected shooter Jared Loughner was linked to a white supremacist group called American Renaissance, or AmRen.

AmRen founder Jared Taylor, however, tells Fox he'd never heard of Loughner and that according to his group's records, Loughner never received AmRen publications. His group's events are all held on the East Coast, he said, far from Loughner's hometown of Tucson.

According to the memo, Loughner "is possibly linked to this group. (through videos posted on his myspace and YouTube account.)" The group is "anti government, anti immigration, anti ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government), anti Semitic," the memo said. (Taylor told Fox his group is not anti-Zionist.)

Both the group's anti-Semitic and anti-immigration leanings would not put Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in its favor. Giffords is the first female Jewish elected representative from Arizona. She also supports comprehensive immigration reform, and was opposed to Arizona's SB1070 law, though she also opposed the Obama administration challenging it in court.

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KEYWORDS: giffords; hate; loughner; memo
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Amazing. Give Big Media a C for effort.
1 posted on 01/09/2011 10:17:05 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

They will get a Nobel prize for turning this homosexual new age anarchist into a right wing Christian mercenary.

Just my opinions of course.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 10:18:57 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: BenLurkin

They don’t care about the shooter, they want an excuse to get rid of conservatives. Period.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 10:20:21 AM PST by Shady (LIBERTY is NOT a Four Letter Word.)
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To: Libloather

He may not have any links to “AmRen” but he does have one hell of a paper trail in the Tucson Public School system. The Feds might want to check into that. We have now banned the hate America classes in the Tucson public schools. They didn’t like it at all.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 10:20:47 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (DNC memo - "Don't let this thing go to waste! Exploit! Exploit! Exploit!")
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To: BenLurkin

I fear your words are however truth.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 10:22:14 AM PST by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: Libloather

Has anyone figured if the shooter is a Leftist?


6 posted on 01/09/2011 10:22:27 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Libloather

AmRen is non-violent and pro-Jewish.

They are the suit and tie, academic “race realist” crowd. Say what you want about his racial views, but Jared Taylor has never promoted violence against anyone.

The only demands this guy has ever made are to end immigration and affirmative action.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 10:22:49 AM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: Libloather

>> Both the group’s anti-Semitic and anti-immigration leanings would not put Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in its favor.

Why is Liz Goodman unjustly implicating this group of idiots?


8 posted on 01/09/2011 10:22:55 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Libloather
Ya,, well he may have know of someone that knew someone that may have heard about them on KOS!!

That's close enough!

9 posted on 01/09/2011 10:23:44 AM PST by MrPiper
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To: Libloather

How soon before the Democrat Party controlled media announces that Loughner was “linked” to Free Republic or the Heritage Foundation or to the Reagan Library? It’s amazing the amount of bilge the media is vomiting on the American public. And doing it so quickly too.


10 posted on 01/09/2011 10:24:21 AM PST by StormEye
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To: Libloather

This is only the beginning. “Leaked” Government reports will have words,”may be likned to the TeaParty movement”, and “may be a follower of Rush Limbaugh.”


11 posted on 01/09/2011 10:25:09 AM PST by sport
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To: Libloather
#11 January 9, 2011 at 9:47 am
Chisum commented:

Xian @ #3,,

Here you go.

I found this list at JOM.

Why don’t people who are so intent on blaming things politicians have said for this tragedy ever mention rhetoric from Democrats and liberals including:

President Obama:

“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Obama said in Philadelphia last night. “Because from what I understand, folks in Philly like a good brawl. I’ve seen Eagles fans.”

And “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.”

Or John Kerry who said on the Bill Maher show: “I could have gone to 1600 Pennsylvania and killed the real bird with one stone.”

Or Howard Dean “I hate the Republicans and everything they stand for…”

and: “This is a struggle between good and evil and we’re the good?”

and “we need to remember that the enemy here is George Bush, not each other.”

Or Senator Chuck Schumer who called a flight attendant a “bitch.”

Or the Florida Democrats who ran an ad calling for the assassination of Donald Rumsfeld

Or New York State Comptroller Alan Hevesi who called for Senator Schumer to “put a bullet between the president’s eyes?”

Or Jonathan Chait who said “I hate President George W. Bush.”

Or singer Rickie Lee Jones who aid of President Bush “You’re an ignorant, low-class, opportunistic man, both personally and politically, who does everything for political gain and nothing for the wellbeing of the people, and you should not be in office, and the kind of fascism you’re perpetrating on our country we don’t want, and you’re out. We’re done with you. Ffffhgggmm.”

And when asked if she would be willing to take Bush out for the benefit of democracy? “If I say that, I might get arrested when I go back. And I have to go home.” She’s thinking it out carefully. “I guess the question is, would I kill anyone? And the answer is, no. But would I feel sorry if someone killed him? No, I wouldn’t. It would depend on who killed him, I guess.”

Or “The Late Late Show with Craig Kilborn” where they superimposed the words “Snipers Wanted” over an image of Bush delivering his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.

Or Nobel Peace Prize winner Betty Williams who said she could kill President Bush?

Or Randi Rhodes who joked about killing the President?

Or Reverend Wright who called Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, Condoskeeza [sic] Rice.

Or England’s Charlie Brooker who wrote: “On November 2, the entire civilised world will be praying, praying Bush loses. And Sod’s law dictates he’ll probably win, thereby disproving the existence of God once and for all. The world will endure four more years of idiocy, arrogance and unwarranted bloodshed, with no benevolent deity to watch over and save us. John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr – where are you now that we need you?”

12 posted on 01/09/2011 10:25:09 AM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: BenLurkin

They will look like fools of course because initial reports have the shooter as having no religion, no belief in God. But they will try to fix all to fit their agenda. It is sad that a Fox News commentator said tea parties very early on. With the Fort Hood shooter the media and Obama ordered a hush on who he was.

For this, they will make up what they want.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 10:25:43 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who falsely believe they are free)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

His readings include the Communist manifesto, allegedly./s


14 posted on 01/09/2011 10:26:09 AM PST by praytell (My name is Obammy and I approve this message.)
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To: Libloather
The AMREN link is BS. Bet it was pulled out of some DHS apparatchik's butt for the purpose of hanging this on right wingers.

There has not been time for a forensic analysis of the Perp's computer.

15 posted on 01/09/2011 10:26:11 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Libloather

She’s Jewish? This idiocy gets better by the minute.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 10:26:23 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: WilliamHouston

It’s pretty funny how even “right wing” Fox News is getting in on the smear against American Renaissance. They’re even quoting the SPLC to do so.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 10:27:48 AM PST by ruination
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To: Libloather

I wouldn’t believe anything that the big Sis Lesbo in charge of Homeland Security issues, puts out or says!


18 posted on 01/09/2011 10:28:21 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Shady
Yep. This nothing but a modern-day Reichstag fire.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

19 posted on 01/09/2011 10:28:32 AM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Libloather

I thought it was the Tea Party and Sarah Palin that were behind it.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 10:29:26 AM PST by popdonnelly (Your political opponents want you to shut up.)
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To: StormEye

That dumbass sheriff Dupnik was blaming talk radio (i.e., Rush Limbaugh) and certain television personalities (i.e., Glenn Beck) in his press conference yesterday.


21 posted on 01/09/2011 10:29:26 AM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Maybe... but we do know he is a product of the politically- correct, morally-bankrupt public school system.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 10:29:52 AM PST by Commander X (TOTUS...destroying the USA one lie at a time.)
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To: WilliamHouston

Holy moly,,Giffords office invited Loughner to attend an event in 2007.


23 posted on 01/09/2011 10:30:47 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Libloather

He should sue if it isn’t true. They like defaming people and their associations.


24 posted on 01/09/2011 10:31:08 AM PST by dila813
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To: WilliamHouston

He is following the orders he was given by his master.


25 posted on 01/09/2011 10:31:27 AM PST by sport
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To: Libloather
So if someone logged onto the AR website even one time, they may be linked to the organization?

What do they mean by linked?

By that logic, I'm linked to Democratic Underground because I've visited their website. I despise DU but by their definition, I'm linked to them.

I deploy the use of the words "may" and "linked". The MSM uses them in a despicable manner.
26 posted on 01/09/2011 10:31:32 AM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: B4Ranch

bttt


27 posted on 01/09/2011 10:31:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: sport
This is only the beginning. “Leaked” Government reports will have words,”may be likned to the TeaParty movement”, and “may be a follower of Rush Limbaugh.”

Yup, MSM template in full effect. As soon as I heard this story yesterday I was waiting to see how quickly it would be linked to the teaparty.

28 posted on 01/09/2011 10:32:05 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: StormEye

“How soon before the Democrat Party controlled media announces that Loughner was “linked” to Free Republic or the Heritage Foundation or to the Reagan Library? It’s amazing the amount of bilge the media is vomiting on the American public. And doing it so quickly too.”

They already have HuffPo has a big comment picture that claims he is a Free Republic poster I was telling someone about that in another post earlier.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/ColinStevens/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle-giffords-shooter_n_806243_73190158.html


29 posted on 01/09/2011 10:32:45 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: B4Ranch
Thanks for that litany. If you don't mind, I'm going to copy and save it, as ammo for the inevitable war of words that we conservatives are going to have to fight starting tomorrow at work and in our circle of associates. Good research, FRiend.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

30 posted on 01/09/2011 10:33:09 AM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: ruination

The SPLC is a joke.

Mark Potok was on Olbermann’s show last night trying to spin this into another James von Brunn story. The SPLC is obviously hoping to cash in on this story.

The bogus AmRen charge won’t hold up to scrutiny. Everyone who knows who the AmRen people are know there is no merit to the charge that they are “anti-ZOG” or promote violence.

That’s ridiculous.

There really are Neo-Nazis out there who post on the internet everyday about fighting “ZOG” and killing Jews and so forth but all those people hate Jared Taylor and AmRen.

Of all the “racist hate groups” out there, AmRen is the last one anyone would ever suspect of promoting violence.


31 posted on 01/09/2011 10:33:23 AM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: Libloather

I knew it!

Soon will come the Tim McVeigh analogies!

watch this video to learn the truth!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1786859657119150754


32 posted on 01/09/2011 10:38:04 AM PST by RaceBannon (RON PAUL: THE PARTY OF TRUTHERS, TRAITORS AND UFO CHASERS!!!)
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To: truthguy

They are just throwing mud and hoping to find something - anything - that sticks.

First it was Sarah Palin because of using crosshairs in that ad to defeat Democrats. Then it was Glenn Beck because of his views about gold. Then it was Rush Limbaugh who created “a climate of bigotry” through “hate radio.”

Before this is over with, I am sure Ron Paul will be blamed in some way too. It will all culminate in the realization by the media that ...

That it is all BUSH’S FAULT.


33 posted on 01/09/2011 10:38:17 AM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: Shady; TSgt
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” “Argue with neighbors, Get in their face!,” “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry.” “Punish your enemies” “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.“ “I’m itching for a fight.” “Hand-to-hand combat” - President Barack Obama

Now TSgt, THAT's what I call genuine, productive FReeper workmanship!!!

Harry Reid was just way too vitriolic day before yesterday when claiming the repeal of OBamaCare would not even make it back to the Senate, let alone get passed by the Senate!!!

There are danged few coincidences in politics!!!

34 posted on 01/09/2011 10:39:53 AM PST by SierraWasp (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish man's heart to the left. (Eccl 10:2))
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To: Libloather

Talk about over reaching. Do AmRen members like the Communist Manifesto?


35 posted on 01/09/2011 10:40:13 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: Libloather

This is what the Obama kiss ass media will do for the next two years, milk this tragedy for all its worth..remember what Rahm Emmanuel said about “Never letting a crisis go to waste” well you can bet they won’t waste this one. They will continue with the LIE that this guy was a right wing extremist(Even though its proven by people who knew him that he was far left). They will bash talk radio, bring up the fairness doctrine, basically use this guy like they used the Oklahoma City tragedy to get OBama’s sorry ass re-elected


36 posted on 01/09/2011 10:40:13 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Libloather

This is just the liberal goon squad attempting to make Loughner ‘conservative’ by being tied to an anti-Semetic group, because all Tea Partiers are racist of course, and attempting to create some BS juxtaposition.

Of course the smear job is also them giving us the implicit threat that they can do this whenever they want and follow up on it if they choose, Chicago style.

Wonder if they’d like it if we started asking ‘What’s Nancy know and when did she know it?’


37 posted on 01/09/2011 10:44:06 AM PST by Free Vulcan (The cult of Islam must be eradicated by any means necessary.)
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To: B4Ranch

Nice collection, ping for later use!


38 posted on 01/09/2011 10:46:27 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Has anyone figured if the shooter is a Leftist?”

Yeah like yesterday...

Welcome to free rupublic....


39 posted on 01/09/2011 10:48:41 AM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Libloather

Put up or shut up. Let’s see the evidence. Otherwise you’re practicing the “mcCarthy tactics” that you claim to abhor.


40 posted on 01/09/2011 10:50:05 AM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: Libloather

Leaked govt memo: = CYA

Not buying it.


41 posted on 01/09/2011 11:00:10 AM PST by Islander7 (If you want to anger conservatives, lie to them. If you want to anger liberals, tell them the truth.)
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To: WilliamHouston

The one TV personality that hasn’t been mentioned in all of this is the one most likely to have been a regular on Loughner’s DVR: Jesse Ventura.


42 posted on 01/09/2011 11:07:43 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: Libloather

Here’s what American Renaissance says on their website:
http://www.amren.com/


43 posted on 01/09/2011 11:11:22 AM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: B4Ranch

bookmark


44 posted on 01/09/2011 11:13:46 AM PST by JessieHelmsJr (Tree hugging liberals call it global warming. We call it summertime.)
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To: GenXteacher
Good grab. Oh, BTW (from the website) -

I telephoned DHS today to try to get the bottom of this nonsense, but apparently there is no homeland security on Sundays. The person who answered the phone said no one is there and that I should call back on Monday morning.

45 posted on 01/09/2011 11:24:27 AM PST by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Libloather

So the FBI, enforcers for the federal government, find specious “connections” to an anti-government group on the shooter’s computer. How conveeeeenient......especially, since he had ties to the Left, as virtually every political assassin in modern times has had.


46 posted on 01/09/2011 11:32:08 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yeah. just read on FR you’ll see the proof. Shooter’s old friends are coming out of the woodwork and all seem to agree that the shooter was a hardcore lefty obsessed with 2012 end of the world prophecy. Heavily into pot, loner, likes old 70s era stoner music, believes in conspiracy theories...i mean really wacky ones.


47 posted on 01/09/2011 11:52:41 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: BenLurkin

They did the Columbine murderers this way, two homos one jewish and the other who ranted on the internet about giving the death penalty to homophobes were turned into Natzees by the lamestream media.


48 posted on 01/09/2011 12:38:37 PM PST by junta (S.C.U.M. = State Controlled Unreliable Media)
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To: StormEye
How soon before the Democrat Party controlled media announces that Loughner was “linked” to Free Republic or the Heritage Foundation or to the Reagan Library?

I'm surprised the MSM hasn't leaked that Loughner is reported to be Palin's son... leaked thru a High Government Official on Condition of Anonymity... naturally.

49 posted on 01/09/2011 12:40:14 PM PST by 6SJ7 (atlasShruggedInd = TRUE)
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To: Libloather
This memo was concocted for the sole purpose of getting disinformation out for political mileage. That's what our political discourse has come to.
50 posted on 01/09/2011 12:41:13 PM PST by kjam22
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