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Authorities: 2nd man cleared in Giffords shooting
Associated Press ^ | Jan.8, 2011

Posted on 01/09/2011 12:04:12 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

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To: Terry Mross
Dupnik should have this outburst pinned on him for all to see, and, if his office had anything to do with ignoring previous death threats from this mentally ill person, or in allowing him to register a gun (if it was a registered gun), then it should be shouted from the roof tops and he should lose his job. The left, including this leftist sheriff, obviously have no limits when it comes to pushing themselves and their agenda. Others, including a nine year old child, a political aide, and a US judge were killed in this attack, and all the left cares about is if they can somehow manufacture a connection with Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, or anyone else on their list of those they actually hate. Theirs is the party of hate.
41 posted on 01/09/2011 12:48:12 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: hennie pennie
You are in a small gathering ~ maybe 25 people ~ and your attention is suddenly diverted by:

a. A jet plane smashing into the WTC

b. A gun is put to the head of the Congresswoman you are visiting

c. Two cars ahead someone brakes suddenly and a guy smacks your car from the rear.

Which happened first?

Interestingly enough many people wouldn't be able to tell you if any two of those events occurred on the same day.

Here we have a situation where people are in fear of their lives, a guy is just pumping out rounds and people are falling, and sure you may have seen a pistol at the Congresswoman's head, but she could have been third in line ~

The police will interview everybody on the scene to get a clearer picture.

42 posted on 01/09/2011 12:48:22 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: petitfour

What you said about the judge is what the sheriff said at his cranky press conference yesterday.

As for the speculation about who the shooter’s target was, I think they assume it was the congresswoman because he went straight to her and shot her first.

Also, she was identifiable at the event. The judge was just a bystander, not there in any official capacity.


43 posted on 01/09/2011 12:53:29 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: muawiyah

Definitely not c because I couldn’t get 25 people into my car.


44 posted on 01/09/2011 12:56:35 PM PST by Marak (I don't deal with reality.)
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To: hennie pennie

Confusion and errant facts are normal when something like this occurs.

It’s not conspiratorial, just normal “fog of war,” unavoidable until things settle down. Happens every time.

I’m reading Bush’s “Decision Points.” Interesting chapters on all the misinformation and confusion on 9/11.


45 posted on 01/09/2011 12:56:57 PM PST by Jedidah
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I was thinking the second man was his “boyfriend”.


46 posted on 01/09/2011 1:10:05 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

it does appear an earlier posting of yours was correct.


47 posted on 01/09/2011 1:11:40 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Hoodat

Your recollections are correct. Though I posted elsewhere the Judge’s involvement with a very curious case just concluded where he was likely to rule against the administration. It appears he was the victim of bad luck.


48 posted on 01/09/2011 1:14:20 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (Half of the population is below average)
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To: sbMKE; KansasGirl
"The judge was a Bush 41 appointee. Regarded as a conservative, as is the congressional district."
Thanks sbMKE. My brain is turning to mush.
KG. Sorry for misleading you on that one. Sadly, now I remember reading earlier on about the Judge's appointment attributes.
49 posted on 01/09/2011 1:14:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Marine_Uncle

No harm. When I read you post, I thought, huh, liberal judges don’t attend church. ;-)


50 posted on 01/09/2011 1:16:39 PM PST by KansasGirl
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To: hennie pennie
re: There was SO much stuff mis-reported, from the get go

You would have to spend time in a news room during the early happenings of an event like yesterday to understand why there is much bad information passed along. Breaking news is a very competitive business, and being first on the air with even a little tidbit of info is very important to the bosses. Oh, they do lip service to accuracy, but the way they behave in moments like this conveys anything but a motive to hold a tip until it can be verified.

In today's MFM world the local newspaper, TV and online news gatherers and presenters often share a news room and personnel. Not a good formula for assuring accuracy in reporting.

In my case I worked for a newspaper that shared its facilities and personnel with both the area's leading TV station and the parent company's online version of the news. It is especially hectic when the breaking news story is happening at or near deadline time for the paper. Lots of people doing lots of things and consequently lots of opportunity for things to go wrong.

It does not help that many, actually most, of those in the news business are liberals, often flaming liberals, who desperately want any report, tip or hint of a Right Wing involvement in a story like yesterday's to be true. They have an entirely different mindset when it comes to handling news about liberals compared to how they handle news that might put Conservatives in a bad light. It's almost like a genetic thing with them. Most of them don't even realize how different they behave when dealing with one or the other. My job was often helping them find art work for a story and I've seen them firsthand bypass a better picture of a conservative in favor of a less flattering picture of the same person. They just can't seem to help themselves when it comes time to present information on a conservative.

I must hasten to add though that I've never seen them deliberately present false information, just spin the hell out of how the story is told.

As a story moves through the food chain of content for the next broadcast or edition it becomes less and less likely to have information in it challenged. By the time it reaches the managing editor he or she, often erroneously, assumes it's been fact-checked. If it's a line or fact that seems reasonable in the editor's view of the world and the news it can just slide right by them.

For a staunch conservative like myself working in the belly of the beast was often like I had died and gone to hell.

51 posted on 01/09/2011 1:19:21 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: KansasGirl

Perhaps some do. As they kneel on a Lenin prayer rug and bow to Trotsky and Stalin.


52 posted on 01/09/2011 1:19:46 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Right you are! Maybe it’s this ethnic tradition that makes him the way that he is.

“The Dupnik is a traditional folk dance that requires the dancing couple to acknowledge their presence by first bowing to each other then turn around and ram their “dupa” or rear ends together.”

I guess Tucson is “Berkeley on the Border,” Dupnik has been in local law enforcement for 50 years, with 30 as Sheriff. My guess is that he doesn’t often “do lunch” with fellow sheriffs, Joe Arpaio or Paul Babeau.


53 posted on 01/09/2011 1:19:53 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They let the guy off the hook because they have the fall guy in custody.


54 posted on 01/09/2011 1:23:28 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
aka the white flag just went up. The shooter is a Lefty and we can't tie him to anyone else. Nothing to see here, let's all move along. This 2nd shooter story was about stalling for time while the left dug for dirt and Holder covered up evidence.
55 posted on 01/09/2011 1:23:45 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: petitfour

And the Judge could very well have been followed.


56 posted on 01/09/2011 1:26:08 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: VRWC For Truth

and your statement is why we can only hear about it here.


57 posted on 01/09/2011 1:26:53 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Is there a “grassy knoll” anywhere near the shooting site? This guy, Loughner, sounds just like Lee Harvey Oswald.


58 posted on 01/09/2011 1:27:22 PM PST by reg45
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To: Hoodat

“If the judge had been the target and the congresswoman had not been shot, we wouldn’t have had an appearance and statement by Obama for days”

Much like the POS did after the recruiting center, and Ft. Hood shootings?


59 posted on 01/09/2011 1:28:31 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: OpusatFR

God in Heaven, Opus, I pray you are right!

I sincerely hope the overall electorate aren’t falling for this.


60 posted on 01/09/2011 1:34:15 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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