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Profile of suspect Jared Loughner: ‘I can't trust the current government’
MSNBC ^ | Jan. 8, 2011

Posted on 01/09/2011 5:57:51 PM PST by Colofornian

"I can't trust the current government," and "I'm a sleepwalker," Jared Lee Loughner proclaimed in an Internet video before the shooting of a federal judge, congresswoman and others...

His rambling videos had already caused him trouble at school, scaring his community college into suspending him in September.

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Pima Community College...issued a statement identifying Loughner as the suspect. It said he was...suspended Sept. 29 for conduct violations. It said he agreed to withdrew from the college on Oct. 4.

...Loughner had five contacts with college police for disrupting classrooms and the library. It said he was prohibited from returning to the college.

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And The Republic reports that in mid-December, about the same time as the videos were posted, Loughner posted:

"WOW! I’m glad i didn’t kill myself. I’ll see you on National T.v.! This is foreshadow .... why doesn’t anyone talk to me?.."

and

"I don’t feel good: I’m ready to kill a police officer! I can say it."

In a profile online, he listed his favorite books: "Animal Farm," "Brave New World,"..."The Communist Manifesto," "Siddhartha," "The Old Man and the Sea," "Gulliver's Travels," "Mein Kampf,"...

A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as having a lot of friends "until he got alcohol poisoning in '06" and dropped out of school. "Mainly loner very philosophical."

Parker described the gunman meeting Rep. Gabrielle Giffords previously: "He was a political radical & met Giffords once before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was 'stupid & unintelligent.'"

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: giffords; loughner; profile; reichstagfire; shooter; suspect
From the article: A 22-year-old woman in Arizona, Caitie Parker, claimed on her Twitter feed that she went to high school and college with the gunman, and was in a band with him. She described his politics in the past as "left wing, quite liberal, & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy." She also described him as having a lot of friends "until he got alcohol poisoning in '06" and dropped out of school. "Mainly loner very philosophical."

If you click on the original MSNBC source of this article, the editors there have tried to hide this quote as you have to scroll down and click on "Show more text" to open up a page that has the tail end of the article.

Other media outlets have focused quotes on "bigotry" and "incivility" as somehow having linkage...Nothing like a liberal loony on the loose to give the liberal MSM on the loose an excuse to take pot-shots @ whoever they want to blame for this!

1 posted on 01/09/2011 5:57:56 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Wow, color me shocked that MSNBC included that quote from Parker about Loughner’s liberal politics.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 6:01:18 PM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: Colofornian

I am thinking this kid is on a bad drug trip of some sort. Maybe LSD and never came back. Watching the media try to blame the Tea Party is fast becoming a farce. They do not even realize how stupid they seem.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 6:02:49 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Colofornian

The world is upside down. MSNBC of all places includes the friend’s description of him as a lib, while FOX is going on about his possible connection to an anti-semitic, anti-government group.

I have turned the channel to a M*A*S*H rerun. Can’t take it anymore!


4 posted on 01/09/2011 6:07:42 PM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: bereanway

...that and also the communist manifesto being a favorite book as well....


5 posted on 01/09/2011 6:10:49 PM PST by mrmeyer ("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
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To: Colofornian

You know, it gets so tiresome to try and put political motives on to someone like this.

In the old days he would be called a nut. Today he is a political activist.


6 posted on 01/09/2011 6:14:25 PM PST by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Colofornian

Acually, the Radical Left does NOT like this current Admin.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 6:15:32 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Patrick1
You know, it gets so tiresome to try and put political motives on to someone like this. In the old days he would be called a nut. Today he is a political activist.

Agreed.

Still a difference 'tween motivations [his nuthood disorientation] & his worldview orientation [the sheer insanity of living as a liberal].

IOW, who knows how much his political views influenced his trigger? But I'm sure many of his liberal worldviews was looney in & of itself, aside from what he did Saturday.

8 posted on 01/09/2011 6:21:29 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Marty62
Acually, the Radical Left does NOT like this current Admin.

Agreed. But are you then tying the Admin all the way down to a congresswoman, an aide, a fed judge & three elderly people outside a store?

Apparently he also made some comment about "not killing a policeman" prior to Saturday...I don't think you can start linking the authority of a policeman to the White House authority, either.

9 posted on 01/09/2011 6:26:02 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian

Apparently this lowlife was living at home with the parents. They didn’t see anything out of the ordinary with him? Weren’t they at the least uncomfortable with this behaviour? Did they even communicate with him? As a parent myself I’ve got questions...


10 posted on 01/09/2011 6:31:36 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Colofornian

we need to find out what the question was that he asked..


11 posted on 01/09/2011 6:31:43 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: Colofornian

Boy you missed my point.

The msm is claiming BECAUSE he didn’t like the GOV that he is Tea Party.

The truth is the Radical left doesn’t like the way this Admin is governing. ie: Tax cuts for the Rich,Dream Act so on and so forth.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 6:34:51 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Good questions.

Still...the parents I'm sure we'ren't clued in to some of the key neon lights -- like the community college's alarm bells going off over his on-campus behavior & 'tube videos.

Since he was an adult, & colleges would be reticent sharing any "confidential" info, it could be the parents didn't even know about that.

13 posted on 01/09/2011 6:38:03 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Marty62
The msm is claiming BECAUSE he didn’t like the GOV that he is Tea Party.

It doesn't surprise me the MSM has made that connection. (Do you know which outlets are out front in presenting that fantasy narrative?)

My primary focus on posting this thread wasn't to get into "He's a liberal...he goes around shooting people"...but to rather focus on how the liberal aspects of the shooter were likely to be overwhelmingly overlooked by the liberal MSM...whereas if the reverse were true...it would be neon-lit everywhere & trumpeted by the leftist MSM.

I've seen another article pointing out that Loughner was a registered independent. But beyond that, has anybody seen any other major news outlet (besides MSNBC) mentioning Loughner's extreme liberalism?

14 posted on 01/09/2011 6:42:56 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: screaminsunshine

It’s more likely that the kid has schizophrenia, which LSD mimics. He’s the right age for coming down with schizophrenia and the disjointed rambling of his writing has the look of someone whose thought process is disintegrating.


15 posted on 01/09/2011 6:57:12 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Colofornian

Well, he and I agree on one point.....

“I can’t trust the current government,”


16 posted on 01/09/2011 7:16:38 PM PST by Fireone (Liberals are just overschooled, undereducated, adult children.)
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To: Fireone

True,who could trust a government that uses their citizens for credit at the federal no reserve atm machine like they are cattle for slaughter?


17 posted on 01/09/2011 7:25:47 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Colofornian
Obama’s Trust Problem, by Paul Krugman
18 posted on 01/09/2011 7:43:48 PM PST by 11th_VA (Bush is gone, long live the Tea Party ....)
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To: Colofornian
Still...the parents I'm sure we'ren't clued in to some of the key neon lights -- like the community college's alarm bells going off over his on-campus behavior & 'tube videos.

Actually, they did. They even attended a follow-up meeting with Jared at PCC to try and get him readmitted.

19 posted on 01/09/2011 7:46:30 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (My baloney has a first name, it's DEMOCRAT; my baloney has a second name, it's PARTY)
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To: Colofornian

Police spoke to the parents about the Pima CC issue, at his house.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 8:27:17 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: All

2012 prophecy, would that blame go to Coast to Coast AM? The MSM is relentless.


21 posted on 01/09/2011 8:28:58 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Colofornian

‘I can’t trust the current government’ That would be barack HUSSEIN obama Folks. This shooting tradegy is the fault of the HUSSEIN regime!


22 posted on 01/09/2011 8:31:39 PM PST by STD (** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”)
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To: Colofornian

‘I can’t trust the current government’ That would be barack HUSSEIN obama Folks. This shooting tradegy is the fault of the HUSSEIN regime!


23 posted on 01/09/2011 8:31:39 PM PST by STD (** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun”)
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To: Pelham

He was a heavy pot user too. Possible the schizophrenia was brought on by the Marijuana use.


24 posted on 01/09/2011 8:48:43 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Another of the hundreds of threads on this shooting quoted neighbors as saying the entire family kept to themselves, never talked to their neighbors, basically they only saw the father in the morning when he was out watering his garden. Another thread said the mother worked for the county or state in its natural resources agency.

As a parent myself I cannot imagine receiving news that my child had committed such a horrific crime, even if I knew he had mental issues.


25 posted on 01/09/2011 9:35:20 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: anymouse

“Possible the schizophrenia was brought on by the Marijuana use.”

There is some evidence that that can happen:

http://www.schizophrenia.com/prevention/streetdrugs.html


26 posted on 01/10/2011 5:29:39 PM PST by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: Pelham

That’s why I posted it. Thanks for posting the link for those not familiar with the connection.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 5:56:17 PM PST by anymouse (God didn't write this sitcom we call life, he's just the critic.)
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