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Carolyn McCarthy readies gun control bill
POLITICO ^ | SHIRA TOEPLITZ

Posted on 01/09/2011 10:52:29 PM PST by Sprite518

One of the fiercest gun-control advocates in Congress, Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), pounced on the shooting massacre in Tucson Sunday, promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.

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Completely illegal..

The Left is going nuts by exploiting this situation for political gain. They almost immediately blamed Sarah Palin, talk radio and the tea party when it was a radical Leftist that did this. Rahm Emanuel's never let a crisis go to waste comes to mind.

It's obvious they want to silence all opposition to Obama and the leftist by calling any disagreement "hate". It has not even been 72 hours and we are still just trying to get all the facts. Unreal and complete B.S. !

1 posted on 01/09/2011 10:52:38 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

Recall proceedings ought to begin against the Tuscon sheriff.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 11:01:38 PM PST by blam
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To: Sprite518

You are correct!These people are SNAKES waiting for prey.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 11:04:04 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Sprite518

Never let a crisis go to waste, eh Beyotch?

This from the woman whose husband probably took a bullet willingly to get out of a life in her company.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 11:05:50 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Sprite518
Completely illegal.

I completely agree. And yet sadly, President Ronald Reagan helped greatly in bringing us the Brady gun control law.

5 posted on 01/09/2011 11:06:43 PM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: blam
"Recall proceedings ought to begin against the Tuscon sheriff."

You gotta realize the Univ. of Arizona is in Tucson, plus about a thousand busloads of illegal aliens ready to vote.

Not much chance of getting that sheriff recalled.

6 posted on 01/09/2011 11:07:59 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Sprite518
"It's obvious they want to silence all opposition to Obama and the leftist by calling any disagreement "hate"."

Already happening. My daughter says that when she asks a black student a question they should be able to answer -- but can't -- they respond with "Why you bees hatin' on me?"

Why did you think the libs wanted "hate" to be declared a crime...?

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(Not hassling you; we are in full agreement...)

7 posted on 01/09/2011 11:09:13 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: pyx

At least Reagan had the excuse that he was shot with the same gun — by the same hand — that disabled Brady...


8 posted on 01/09/2011 11:12:24 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Redbob
This from the woman whose husband probably took a bullet willingly to get out of a life in her company. That was cold and insensitive. That is probably why I laughed so hard after reading it. This woman's bill will go nowhere. It is a craven political act of a Rat hack. People are seeing through this BS spin and will not tolerate it anymore.
9 posted on 01/09/2011 11:17:35 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Sprite518
targeting the high-capacity ammunition

What the hell is high-capacity ammunition???

10 posted on 01/09/2011 11:21:58 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Sprite518

Note the irony from the LI Railroad Wiki entry:

” None of Ferguson’s victims were black, although it was unclear whether any other black passengers were aboard the train.

“After arresting Ferguson, police found pieces of notebook paper in his pockets with scribbled notes with the heading “reasons for this”.[9] One of the notes referred to “racism by Caucasians and Uncle Tom Negroes”

Remember how all of this racism was played down? This jerkov, baited by the likes of Sharpton and Jackson, the NAACP and the MSM had so much hatred built up he kills 6 people.

Yet I guess we were to “understand his ‘black rage’”


11 posted on 01/09/2011 11:26:13 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

I forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me.

It’s obvious what’s going on here. I am just wondering... did the congress act the same way after the JFK assassination?


12 posted on 01/09/2011 11:34:41 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: The Cajun

My guess is Magazines for Rifles? 10 rounds or more...


13 posted on 01/09/2011 11:35:52 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518
I kind of assumed that, but it's stated like a typical blithering idiot libtard would.
14 posted on 01/09/2011 11:45:03 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: Sprite518

Political whore.


15 posted on 01/09/2011 11:54:00 PM PST by Carley (PRINTING OPINION, IGNORING THE FACTS......the msm!!!)
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To: Carley

Agree 100%


16 posted on 01/09/2011 11:56:48 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: The Cajun

Anything more than single-shot or more powerful than a BB gun.


17 posted on 01/10/2011 12:01:07 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Sprite518

She claimed to be a republican at the time of the LIRR shooting. Then switched to supporting Cuomo because he was against the death penalty. Following that illogic she refused to condemn partial birth abortion.

All the while professing her devout Catholicism.


18 posted on 01/10/2011 12:23:44 AM PST by Carley (PRINTING OPINION, IGNORING THE FACTS......the msm!!!)
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To: Carley

Yeah... Liberalism is a mental disorder


19 posted on 01/10/2011 12:26:49 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

But what about muzzle brakes? You know, that shoulder thing that goes up. /S

Yes, it’s that idiot.


20 posted on 01/10/2011 12:41:46 AM PST by FreedomForce (A conservative 2012)
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To: The Cajun
What the hell is high-capacity ammunition???

It's that dangerous kind that they use to kill people with those really dangerous black guns that use clips

21 posted on 01/10/2011 12:52:55 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Sprite518

And so the “we-need-to-do-something-to-appear-to-be-doing- something” parade begins.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 1:43:34 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Sprite518

What a surprise! Who could have seen this coming.......< /s >


23 posted on 01/10/2011 2:01:19 AM PST by McGavin999 ("I was there when we had the numbers, but didn't have the principles"-Jim DeMint)
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To: pyx
And yet sadly, President Ronald Reagan helped greatly in bringing us the Brady gun control law.

If you mean being shot in an assassination attempt is "helped greatly" because the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act ("Brady Bill") was passed by the Democrat controlled Congress and signed by Bill Clinton in 1993.

24 posted on 01/10/2011 2:10:07 AM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: TXnMA
The Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act ("Brady Bill") was passed by the Democrat controlled Congress and signed by Bill Clinton in 1993.

It didn't come under Reagan or even Bush 41.

25 posted on 01/10/2011 2:11:57 AM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: Sprite518

“high capacity ammunition”, Whew...I’m glad he used a 9mm, means my .45ACP is safe, right?

On a serious note, I’m grateful he didn’t use anything more effective than a 9. Had this maniac been using a pistol chambered in .45 ACP, .40 S&W or others, the Gentlewoman from AZ would not be here. Along with maybe a dozen others.

Thank God it wasn’t worse than it was.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 2:23:36 AM PST by Rearden (Deo Vindice)
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To: Sprite518

No amount of gun law will undo the violence perpetrated against McCarthy’s husband and son. I remember the incident well.

It’s enough to criticize her judgment - she doesn’t deserve the personal attacks.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 2:33:44 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Sprite518

I’m just curious, what exactly is high capacity ammunition? Isn’t there anyone fact checking articles these days? That and “clips” for magazines just scream ignorance.


28 posted on 01/10/2011 4:21:21 AM PST by 1malumprohibitum
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To: paul51

well if they out law high capacity clips for pistols we are all safe because pistols use magazines.

Right off hand, I can not think of any pistol that uses a clip and the only rifle I can think of is the M1 Garand, which uses an 8-rd en bloc clip.

Perhaps there is a FReeper who is a clip expert who can enlighten us.


29 posted on 01/10/2011 5:37:42 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: Sprite518
targeting the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.

HUH???? I want some of that high-capacity ammunition!! < /s>

30 posted on 01/10/2011 6:15:17 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: All

how this mental defective keeps getting elected is beyond me.


31 posted on 01/10/2011 6:17:49 AM PST by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: TxDas
The Glock has a receiver at the base of the grip where a modified magazine or high capacity magazine can be used. There are some that carry 30 rounds. These are very awkward, difficult to carry or conceal and make accuracy difficult.

There are several Semiautomatic pistols that have this feature.

That being said, this will not deter CRIMINALS, it will only ease their fear, knowing that they are now less likely to be opposed or out gunned by their victims.

32 posted on 01/10/2011 6:23:17 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: TxDas
M-1 Garand’s had “Clips”. which were thrown away after the rounds were fully used. They were not reusable/relaodable/removable magazines like hunting rifles use. When the “Clip” was empty, it was ejected violently out the top of the receiver, making a loud “Ping” noise, which alerted the enemy that this weapon was empty.

They also loaded from the top and held 8 rounds. They were difficult to reload and was one of their weaknesses. The Japanese learned this trick during Banzai charges and used it with limited success. Marines also learned this tactic and staggered their fire accordingly. The 30-06 round was extremely powerful and with Ball Ammo, they were capable of killing 3 enemy soldiers with one round. The Jap’s learned this the hard way during their futile Banzai charges.

The M-1 Garand was designed and built under the specs if Gen. George S. Patton. This is also one of Patton's greatest contributions as to why we won WW 2.

33 posted on 01/10/2011 6:46:16 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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*** What the hell is high-capacity ammunition??? ***

1) Keep n mind this article is written by a ditz reporterette so any correct firearm verbage or firearm facts are irrelevant.

2) Further on in the the article it says;

'McCarthy’s spokesman confirmed the legislation will target the high-capacity ammunition clips.

another idiot ditz, as its Magazine not, 'clip'.
I use 'clips' for my 8mm Mauser(1) but not my 9mm Star Model B(1), or my 9x18 Makarov(1)

I always note on gun article who the 'reporter' is. 99.956% of the time it's a female. (gotta be a union rule) /s

(1) I luv 'old' guns from WWII and buy them with my C&R license. All good shooters.
The Mauser was Brand New & covered in cosmoline. That's my 'Main Battle Rifle'.

34 posted on 01/10/2011 6:59:15 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: ScottinVA
The thing to do is look at why mentally deranged people aren't headed off before the event. The last three mass shooters were all well known wack jobs - as were many others.
35 posted on 01/10/2011 7:17:25 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: TxDas
Right off hand, I can not think of any pistol that uses a clip and the only rifle I can think of is the M1 Garand, which uses an 8-rd en bloc clip. ... Perhaps there is a FReeper who is a clip expert who can enlighten us.

I'm no Clip Expert', but I know a 'little'. I have a C&R license and collect WWII era firearms (and 'some' that are 50 years and older from the 'cold War' era.(1))

But except for the Mauser, SKS and Mosin-Nagant 'clips' are/can be hard to find. Looking for 'Surplus Ammo' is the best bet to get ammo already on 'clips'. But hand loading 5 rounds into the internal magazine isn't that big of a deal. It's like a loading a Remington 700.

(1) The BATF decides which 'old' guns qualify. Some American 'sporting' guns are classified as C&R. And some 'old' Military Firearms that should be, aren't)

36 posted on 01/10/2011 7:43:07 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Condor51

I am familiar with “stripper” clips but was thinking of the en-bloc variety. They supply 5.56 Nato with clips you strip in to the magazines. The old battle Mausers and Enfields would toss the clip when you closed the bolt IIRC.


37 posted on 01/10/2011 8:42:26 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The nice thing about Glocks is you can use Model 17 mags in a shorter Glock like the 19. I have shot the 30 rd mag and it is impossible to load with just a thumb abd is even difficult with snappy loader like the Lula.

The 33 rd mag was made to be issued with the full auto variant of the Glock 17 -the Glock 18 which has lots of Youtube videos of it in action..


38 posted on 01/10/2011 8:52:06 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

The US troops also learned to carry an expended clip to throw down after they had fired 5 rds. The enemy, hearing the distinctive ping of the clip hitting the ground, would get up and charge, thinking the M1 was empty, and thereby get plugged by the clever American.


39 posted on 01/10/2011 8:55:41 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: Sprite518

Never waste an opportunity to exploit a crisis. Especially when you can add tens of millions of dollars to the legislation to replenish the RAT Slush Fund.


40 posted on 01/10/2011 8:58:02 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Sprite518
promising to introduce legislation as soon as Monday targeting
the high-capacity ammunition the gunman used.

Which doesn't even make sense.

I wonder if the bill will include language about "The shoulder thing that goes up"?

41 posted on 01/10/2011 9:15:41 AM PST by Lee N. Field (An armed society is a polite society. So keep your soi-disant "prophets" off my lawn.)
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To: newzjunkey
The Brady Hangun Bill was indeed signed into law by Caligula Clinton. That I do recall.

However, I seem to recall that President Reagan made a commitment to Sarah and James Brady to help set the Bill in motion as well as not taking on the crazies over at Handgun Control Inc. I know that Ronald Reagan was pro-second amendment, but I don't think he actually used his political clout to shut James Brady and Sarah Brady down.

My recollections about these President Reagan's help (perhaps I should have said, non-opposition) may indeed be wrong as the history of the Brady Bill's assault on the 2nd Amendment is purely from memory.

42 posted on 01/10/2011 9:24:21 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: TxDas
*** was thinking of the en-bloc variety. ***

Then yes, the M1 is the only one (I can think of).

*** The old battle Mausers and Enfields would toss the clip when you closed the bolt IIRC.***

Correct, stripper clips were tossed after loading the cartridges.

It's *Funny* you should mention the Enfield. I forgot about that Rifle and I'm looking at getting one (DOH!), the Enfield #4 Mk 1. It can be easily 'Sporterized' with a new stock and scope, and the Ballistics for the Brit .303 is pretty darn good (at 200 yds w/ Remington Ammo, it's very very close to the .308) and ammo is plentiful.

I also like the K-31 Schmidt Rubin, and the 7.5x55 'Swiss' ammo is also easy to get.
(I think I'm drawn to it due to its *odd* straight pull bolt action)

43 posted on 01/10/2011 1:40:31 PM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: Condor51

The Enfield is a very fast, smooth action although I always thought it was unattractive. The .303 hardly kicks because the rifle is quite heavy. It is a favorite action for the African Professional Hunters to customize into dangerous game rifles like the .450 Ackley Improved. I shot one once. Let me emphasize once. Then, after I had my retinas reattached, my shoulder reconnected and my nose quit bleeding I decided a .416 did not kick so much after all.

I shot a Cape Buffalo, which was facing me, with a .375 H&H and it was not very impressed so the PH shot it in the guts with the .450 as it ran past us. The PH was to my right and I was impressed that he seemed to disappear as the recoil shoved him back pedaling a few feet. Conversely, the buff was unimpressed with the .450 in the guts and barely flinched. My next shot spined him which goes to show you location always trumps power.

Anyway, I am a Mauser man myself but the Enfield and the Mauser are proven battle rifles. The .303 has probably killed more game in Canada and Africa than any other modern cartridge. It has also wounded more due to the use of military ball ammo and the yahoos that shoot it.


44 posted on 01/10/2011 3:32:30 PM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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To: pyx
I honestly don't have specific recollections about President Reagan and Handgun Control, Inc. You may be correct. It wasn't an issue I paid attention to in younger days.

As I recall Reagan tried to stay a statesman when his tenure in the Oval Office was over, unlike Carter or Clinton two who can't seem to shut-up about anything.

45 posted on 01/11/2011 11:04:39 PM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey
Carter has to be ecstatic these days. Carter has dropped from being the absolute worst president ever, all the way down to being behind Obama. As far as Caligula is concerned, he may still talk himself into doing the "Perp Walk" thing.

LOL


46 posted on 01/12/2011 12:26:13 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Gene Eric

I disagree. In my view, a callous hag like her who uses the personal tragedy of people as an excuse to violate the rights of millions of law abiding Americans deserves every bit of ridicule and scorn that can be heaped upon her. She richly deserves to be personally derided. I think it is way past time to stop treating freedom hating statists like decent and honorable people; they are not. They are loathsome autocrats who are eager to plumb any depths to get their way.


47 posted on 01/17/2011 9:03:35 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: pyx

President Clinton signed that bill, but Reagan claimed support for it, IIRC.


48 posted on 01/19/2011 3:58:07 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: TxDas
Right off hand, I can not think of any pistol that uses a clip and the only rifle I can think of is the M1 Garand, which uses an 8-rd en bloc clip.

The 1896 "Broomhandle" Mauser pistol, a classic and distinctive firearm, uses a 10 round clip to feed its fixed box magazine. (In the interest of historical accuracy)...

the infowarrior

49 posted on 01/22/2011 10:19:32 PM PST by infowarrior
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To: infowarrior

Thanks,

My grandfather was born in Germany in 1906 so the Broomhandle pre-dates even the “evil gleam in my father’s eye” by 6 decades.

I guess it was one of the first “Assault Pistols” developed 114 years ago just to piss off today’s liberal.


50 posted on 01/23/2011 10:22:07 AM PST by TxDas (This above all, to thine ownself be true.)
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