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Study: Spacing babies close may raise autism risk
Associated Press via San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^ | Sunday, January 9, 2011 | By CARLA K. JOHNSON, AP Medical Writer

Posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:49 PM PST by thecodont

(01-09) 22:01 PST Chicago, IL (AP) --

Close birth spacing may put a second-born child at higher risk for autism, suggests a preliminary study based on more than a half-million California children.

Children born less than two years after their siblings were considerably more likely to have an autism diagnosis compared to those born after at least three years.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/09/state/n211244S23.DTL#ixzz1Ac7M9mPQ

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autism; childspacing
Questions about this:

How are they defining "autism" in this study?

Are they only looking at first-born vs. second-born children, or are they looking at other births (e.g. between the second and third child, or between the third and fourth child) that are less than 24 months apart?

Are the results of child abuse and neglect (depleted parental resources, stress, etc.) being labeled "autism" in the child?

1 posted on 01/09/2011 11:10:54 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

Bunch of cr*p studies.....my mother had 6 kids all within a year and a half apart and autism was unheard of. Actually, I had 5 kids close together and Autism was rare—hadn’t even heard of it with my first ones.....then the spike....oh yes, with the mandatory vaccines which I avoided for my “healthy” babies. NO Hep B shots for them—no thankyou.

Funny how all these ways to get “Autism” never ever existed when a ton more babies were being born than now...and very large families were normal.

No common sense for the Marxists in charge though....no logic and reasoning and correlation allowed.....It might point to the obvious toxins.


2 posted on 01/09/2011 11:34:21 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: thecodont

I seriously doubt the accuracy of this study.

We are from a tradition of large families-—I mean anywhere from seven to eleven children. Yes, from one mother.

We are close to many families with “stair-step” children. Our first three of seven were born inside of four years.

We have never seen an autistic child in dozens of such families.

There must be factors that are not included here.

I believe some of these studies are skewed for socio-political purposes, including frightening Americans out of having large families.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 11:44:01 PM PST by John Leland 1789 (Grateful.)
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To: thecodont
You could've read the article. /s

Q: How are they defining "autism" in this study?

Answer:The information on autism diagnoses came from the state's Department of Developmental Services. and Children with Asperger's syndrome and pervasive developmental disorders, milder forms of autism, weren't included

Q: Are they only looking at first-born vs. second-born children

Answer: YES! They analyzed data on second-born children born to the same parents whose older siblings didn't have autism.

I have an autistic nephew. He was first born.

4 posted on 01/09/2011 11:46:45 PM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: thecodont

The whole autism thing sounds phony to me. 50 yrs ago, mental retardation (then a euphemism for imbecility) was common. Now no one is mentally retarded because it has progressed from a euphemism to a pejorative. Autism seems to be the new euphemism. In 20 yrs autism will become a pejorative and we will need a new euphemism.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 11:55:33 PM PST by 1955Ford
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To: savagesusie
So you skipped the mandatory vaccines? Thanks for putting all of us at risk by reducing "herd immunity" for terrible childhood diseases. San Diego has had an flare up of pertussis cases, worst in 50 years, due to the cult of anti-vaccine ignorants.

Shame on you for even mentioning vaccines in an autism article after the single study that started the "vaccines cause autism" LIE has been fully, completely exposed for the fraud it was.

This was not a small study of randomly picked people which are often "crap" or misleading. It used existing data about thousands of children born in CA over several years. These are among the best kinds of studies done.

6 posted on 01/10/2011 12:06:24 AM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: newzjunkey

No, I got the necessary vaccines but separated and not a bunch of toxins all at once! I am for some vaccinations—just that the risk/results have to be weighed by the parent. It is their decision.

I am against the Hep B shots for one day olds and children. Putting that toxic vaccine 3X’s into a healthy baby should be a crime. Any pediatrician that requires that shot for a healthy mother and baby should be in prison. I haven’t heard one good argument for it in 10 years and I have seen it taken off the market for awhile because it killed some babies.....odd, that....what a concept....shots could kill a baby? How could that happen?

There are known toxins in each vaccine. The older the child, the better chance it wont destroy their health because as they mature, they are better able to excrete the toxins in the shot. Infants can’t do it and it goes right into their brain.

By the way, courts have said there is a correlation between Autism and vaccines. That is obvious when vaccines are known to cause all sorts of odd diseases, including Gulf War Syndrome and what is the one that the swine flu crippled a bunch of people.....

Toxins are in every single vaccine...that is a fact. You want to tell me injecting toxins into the body doesn’t do any harm. That is a lie. If you don’t think the pharmaceutical companies aren’t working 24/7 to shut up any mention of Autism and Vaccine, then you must be smoking weed. They have trillions resting on it.


7 posted on 01/10/2011 12:22:54 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: savagesusie; newzjunkey; All

Infants should never be given vaccines when the are ill or run down. And I agree it is better to space them out rather than give a bunch at once. And parents should plan several days of low stress living for the young one and give them especially nourishing food, and baby vitamins and a little extra Vitamin C. For that matter, I have always thought that giving our soldiers a bunch of exotic vaccines at the same time they are being worn down with basic training borders on being criminally abusive especially after hear of some cases of serious illness and death years ago.


8 posted on 01/10/2011 12:29:29 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: thecodont

My sons are 11 months apart. The oldest is a Ph. D. researcher at a prominent state university the second son is a GS 14 working on mapping. Both are happily married for over 10 years.

What I do not understand is how people can fret about vaccines, but not give a thought to hair products and dyes, bug spray, sun screen and all the other strange ingredients in cosmetics and skin creams that mothers slather all over their bodies - - all the while avoiding coffee.

Has anyone had concerns about animal vaccines or seen autistic animals?????


9 posted on 01/10/2011 4:48:48 AM PST by finnsheep
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To: newzjunkey

“”Thanks for putting all of us at risk by reducing “herd immunity” for terrible childhood diseases.””

I think freepers are notorious for accusing liberals of drinking “the kool aid” and that’s exactly what the above term is. Those who disagree about the danger of vaccines pull out the “herd immunity” whenever it’s convenient.

Go to Dr. Robert Sears, MD website (pediatrician) in Southern CA and check it out. He has a book “The Vaccine Book” which is worth its weight in gold. He isn’t AGAINST vaccines but his book is TRYING to educate people about vaccines. He doesn’t recommend NOT giving them to children but he has an ALTERNATIVE schedule to follow to be smart about it.

Find the book and look at the ingredients in each and every vaccine. Then ask yourself WHY would anyone put those poisons into a newborn, a 6 month old, a 12 month old, an 18 month old and so on.

If autism isn’t related to vaccines, then why have the numbers of cases increased enormously in the US with the increased vaccines on the market? Why does the US have the highest number of vaccines given to children compared to other countries and why do we have the highest number of autistic children?

I’m speaking as a 74 year old woman who has never had a vaccine in my life, nor did my 3 siblings, nor did my 12 nieces and nephews, nor did a multitude of great nieces and nephews, nor did my 37 year old daughter who has a 2 year old son who hasn’t STARTED his vaccines.

Unfortunately in the state where we now live, there is no exemption for personal or other beliefs to avoid them. The parents were able to find only one pediatrician in the area who was willing to abide by their wishes and hold off on them. She always asks at his checkups “He hasn’t been sick yet?” Strange question, huh?

Fortunately, we lived in a state where our daughter grew up and went to school that we could sign a waiver “against personal beliefs” for school attendance with no questions asked.

Fire away with “herd immunity”......


10 posted on 01/10/2011 9:58:38 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: newzjunkey

“”due to the cult of anti-vaccine ignorants.””

You may want to rethink who you’re calling ignorant here. Try “ignorance”. AND NO I don’t believe we anti-vaccine folks ARE ignorant...we are just better informed and don’t like KOOL AID!


11 posted on 01/10/2011 10:40:48 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
You may want to rethink who you’re calling ignorant here. Try “ignorance”

I meant a plural of ignorant persons so "ignorants" was correct.

12 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:16 PM PST by newzjunkey
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