Skip to comments.Focus Turns To Arizona's Gun Laws (LAT Features Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik's Anti RTC Rant Alert)
Posted on 01/10/2011 1:15:40 AM PST by goldstategop
Arizona has some of the weakest gun control laws in the nation. To gun owners, those laws which allow them to carry guns in their cars, in restaurants and other public places are their last defense against unexpected evil. Gun control activists say the state's laws put weapons into the hands of the mentally unstable, and demand that federal officials impose tougher background checks and reinstate a ban on assault weapons.
Pima County Sheriff Clarence W. Dupnik said the state's gun laws contributed to the shooting. He singled out the law passed last year that allows those 21 and over to carry a concealed weapon without a permit.
"We're the Tombstone of the United States of America," Dupnik said, referring to the Arizona town known for its gun-slinging past. "I have never been a proponent of letting everybody in the state carry weapons wherever they are. That's almost where we are."
He mentioned a proposed law that would allow college students to carry concealed guns on campus.
"That's the ridiculous state to where we have become," Dupnik said.
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It was a gathering of Democrats... who are scared of those loud gun things.
Loughner didn’t need a CCW. In AZ, you can carry without a permit just like in VT and AK.
“A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
Just in case anyone forgot what the Second Amendment says.
No, but I doubt that distinction is responsible for his obvious mental illness.
Agreed. You can abuse a right like he did but that’s no justification for disarming every one else. And Dupnik is an ass - he doesn’t appear to know much about the gun laws of his own state. AZ is not exactly a Wild West shooting gallery, no matter how much the MSM wants to paint that picture.
I won't criticize any armed AZ citizen who did not draw in that crowded chaos Saturday.
I'm not a firearm owner but this must not be turned into a gun-grabbing opportunity. Arizona does not need to become like CA.
It won’t. There’s nothing wrong with AZ’s gun laws that need fixing - except giving college students the same RTC rights as all other Arizonans.
Gee, Loughner seems to have lied when he checked some of the answers on his 4473.
That was entirely truthful at the time.
We can’t guess what people will do. In a free society, you always take a risk that a person will decide to harm others. Nothing can be done about it, unless we want to take away everyone’s freedoms.
New York City has had the Sullivan Act since 1911. That certainly has done a lot to reduce murders and eliminate guns in 90 years. NOT!
A number of NYC gangs would/can still make a somewhat effective gun from a cap pistol. I will refrain from describing how, at this time. Are we to ban cap pistols?
BTW, NYC used to offer (I don’t know if it is still being done a 10 cent bounty for dead rats. I guess you were supposed to convince them to surrender and then beat them to death./s
7. “Prohibited possessor” means any person:
(a) Who has been found to constitute a danger to himself or to others or to be persistently or acutely disabled or gravely disabled pursuant to court order under section 36-540, and whose right to possess a firearm has not been restored pursuant to section 13-925.
Seems like the Sheriff is to blame here and was derelict in his duty by letting the lefty Psycho have a gun in the first place.
No, AZ has Constitutional Carry. As some have already pointed out, that's the price we pay to live in a free society.
Beats the alternative.
LA Times = Toilet Paper
“No, AZ has Constitutional Carry. As some have already pointed out, that’s the price we pay to live in a free society.
Beats the alternative.”
Yes but he was allowed to buy the gun,who OKed the paperwork?
Rep Giffords was a staunch supporter of 2A. That point should be made again and again.
The Sherrif is responsible for failure. Like a good Dem he goes on the attack, instead of addressing the failure.
Question: Was he ever requested to provide security for Giffords public meetings? Is there a straight yes or no answer ?
What about it Dupnik???
I read elsewhere that she was rated D by GOA and D+ by NRA.
Not the Sheriff. And what in his record would have prevented him from purchasing one?
Well, he was thrown off the Community College campus by campus cops, and refused reentry until he produced a doctor's report. That's a type of Restraining Order, and if it were properly reported, would have prevented him from buying the Glock.
If the laws on the books were properly enforced, there would not be a demand for new laws now.
Sounds like he was forced off the property. Not a court ordered restraining order.
I know you want to blame this on somebody or something, but sometimes people slip through the cracks and their first real incident is a big one. Did he maybe lie about smoking marijuana on his ATF app? Maybe. But I don't think we can surmise anything else. We can't start throwing odd people into mental hospitals or half of us on FR would be there for the way we think.
It's the inherent risk in a free society. The solution? Arm yourself.
“Not the Sheriff. And what in his record would have prevented him from purchasing one?”
That drunken Pinko worthless sheriff did not investigate the threats that Whack Job was making,He needs fired and sued.
Good solution for me.
Were guns allowed at this event?