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A Right to Bear Glocks? (Gail Collins Anti-Gun Rant Alert)
New York Times ^ | 1/09/2011 | Gail Collins

Posted on 01/10/2011 2:13:37 AM PST by goldstategop

In soft-pedaling that 2009 encounter, Giffords was doing a balancing act that she’d perfected during her political career as a rather progressive Democrat in a increasingly conservative state. She was the spunky Western girl with a populist agenda mixed with down-home values, one of which was opposition to gun control. But those protesters had been following her around for a while. Her staff members were clearly scared for her, and they put me in touch with Ruiz, who told me the story.

Back then, the amazing thing about the incident in the supermarket parking lot was that the guy with a handgun in his armpit was not arrested. Since then, Arizona has completely eliminated the whole concept of requiring a concealed weapon permit...

Today, the amazing thing about the reaction to the Giffords shooting is that virtually all the discussion about how to prevent a recurrence has been focusing on improving the tone of our political discourse. That would certainly be great. But you do not hear much about the fact that Jared Loughner came to Giffords’s sweet gathering with a semiautomatic weapon that he was able to buy legally because the law restricting their sale expired in 2004 and Congress did not have the guts to face up to the National Rifle Association and extend it.

If Loughner had gone to the Safeway carrying a regular pistol, the kind most Americans think of when they think of the right to bear arms, Giffords would probably still have been shot and we would still be having that conversation about whether it was a sane idea to put her Congressional district in the cross hairs of a rifle on the Internet.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; az; banglist; bradybunch; gailcollins; giffords; glocks; newyorktimes; paulhelmke; rtc
What an idiotic piece! A Glock 9 is NOT an assault weapon! Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership since 1934! But don't expect the dimwit Gail Collins to figure it out. Here's the understatement of the year from the Brady Bunch President Paul Helmke. Does he know what a Glock actually is? Anyway here is his quote:

Loughner’s gun, a 9-millimeter Glock, is extremely easy to fire over and over, and it can carry a 30-bullet clip. It is “not suited for hunting or personal protection,” said Paul Helmke, the president of the Brady Campaign. “What it’s good for is killing and injuring a lot of people quickly.”

ANY gun can do that. What's so evil about a Glock? The gun banners don't know what the hell they're talking about and neither for the record, does Ms. Collins.

Have at it!

1 posted on 01/10/2011 2:13:42 AM PST by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Yep,a cap and ball revolver can fire six shots pretty fast and kill six people.Bet they want them banned too


2 posted on 01/10/2011 2:20:22 AM PST by TLEIBY308 (Keep yer powder dry and watch yer top Knot.)
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To: goldstategop

If gun control laws work so well we should just have the Afghanistan, Pakistan & Iraq implement gun control laws and then the terrorist would never be able to get guns.

Hell, out to have them implement anti-IED and suicide bomb laws as well.


3 posted on 01/10/2011 2:22:40 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: goldstategop
A Glock 9 is NOT an assault weapon!

It is too! See the above journalism reference source for absolutely incontrovertible proof.

And the unbiased idiot from the Brady Campaign is right. A 9-millimeter Glock is easy to fire, and it’s good for killing and injuring a lot of people and that makes it totally unsuited personal protection ... especially when confronting more than one assailant.

4 posted on 01/10/2011 2:31:30 AM PST by Zakeet (Always trust in the five G's: God, Gold, Guns, Grub, and the Government screwing up)
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To: goldstategop

To the best of my knowledge Glock never made, and per their website do not make a Glock 9. Glock model numbers are not based on the caliber. G17,G19,G26, and G34,are the only 9X19 the offer. Glock does make a full-auto pistol, but it is not produced in the U.S. and not imported to the U.S.

“Automatic weapons have been banned for civilian ownership since 1934”

Not true, you can own a full auto, but you will pay big bucks and a lot of ink off the fingerprint pad.


5 posted on 01/10/2011 2:31:36 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: goldstategop

Molan Labe bitch!

LLS


6 posted on 01/10/2011 4:37:50 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: goldstategop
Jared Loughner came to Giffords’s sweet gathering with a semiautomatic weapon that he was able to buy legally because the law restricting their sale expired in 2004

The Glock he used was not banned under that stupid law. This author has no clue about guns, crime, or the law.

7 posted on 01/10/2011 5:06:44 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: goldstategop

Had his parents sent him for a psych evaluation when the school asked for on would he have passed the FBI check? Where are this mans parents and why did they allow him to go without treatment? By all accounts he’s been troubled since early high school. The background story on his family is yet untold.


8 posted on 01/10/2011 5:14:20 AM PST by carmody
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To: goldstategop

I’m sorry, I dismiss anything written by Gail Collins out of hand. She is one disturbed person. Several years ago she wrote a book advocating married women divorce their husbands upon reaching the age of sixty. Why?...to find themselves, naturally. She is a kook.


9 posted on 01/10/2011 6:11:20 AM PST by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: goldstategop
a semiautomatic weapon that he was able to buy legally because the law restricting their sale expired in 2004

Wow, this stupid ass is going after Glocks. I haven't heard the antigun kooks go after Glocks for some time.

Since she doesn't know what the hell she's talking about, and has her facts all wrong, I'm surprised that she didn't come trotting out the old BS about the Glock being able to pass through a metal detector.

10 posted on 01/10/2011 7:28:50 AM PST by SIDENET ("If that's your best, your best won't do." -Dee Snider)
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To: goldstategop

The National Socialists have only just begun cranking up their propaganda machine.

Has to be propaganda as nobody can be this stupid.


11 posted on 01/10/2011 7:41:13 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (My baloney has a first name, it's DEMOCRAT; my baloney has a second name, it's PARTY)
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To: Zakeet
In all fairness, I know of at least one federal agent who was shot in the line of duty with a Glock...


12 posted on 01/10/2011 7:46:00 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Hardastarboard

Not only the author has no clue, but from the comments, the readers are clueless as well. Seem to think a Glock is full auto.


13 posted on 01/10/2011 8:46:48 AM PST by Second Amendment First
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To: goldstategop

How much more evidence do you need that all you need for a journalism degree is a pulse.

Stupid cow, a Glock 19 is a regular old pistol.

I took a female friend of mine to buy her first gun. She purchased a Glock. I think it was a model 19, but can’t remember. She wanted it for personal protection. Since then, she has purchased more firearms.

What stops her from mass murder is the fact that she’s not a schizophrenic loser.


14 posted on 01/10/2011 10:19:23 AM PST by MichiganConservative (Terrorists don't commit genocide. That's what governments do.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

I love that video. After ranting about what a “trained professional” he is, the fool shoots himself in the leg.


15 posted on 01/10/2011 11:28:24 AM PST by ozzymandus
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To: goldstategop; All

Only the New York Times can be the source of so much ignorance.


16 posted on 01/10/2011 12:02:10 PM PST by Halgr (Once a Marine, always a Marine - Semper Fi)
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To: goldstategop

What it also could be “good for” is for protecting yourself against a pack of feral “youths” intent on harming you or your family in a public place.


17 posted on 01/10/2011 12:05:36 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: tiger-one

I remember a convo I was having with a lib-in-law about gun laws. At one point he said something about “no one needs a semi-automatic”.
I asked him what a “semi-automatic” was.
To his credit, he admitted he didn’t know.

Another case of defeating a leftist argument by making them define the terms they use.


18 posted on 01/10/2011 12:08:11 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Halgr; goldstategop
Only the New York Times can be the source of so much ignorance.

NY Times' editorials about firearms are invariably the pits. The "dropped" Glock is designed to fire only with the trigger being engaged.

GLOCK Overview

Safe Action System

The GLOCK Pistol's Safe Action trigger system offers you several very distinct benefits over conventional trigger systems. First, you can choose from several trigger pulls. Second, the trigger is the one and only operative control. Third, is the smooth and consistent pull you feel every time you squeeze the trigger. It makes training much easier because each and every single shot feels exactly the same. It also makes a firearm safe.

Three Safeties

GLOCK pistols have three independent and automatic safeties. As the trigger is pulled they sequentially disengage, and as the pistol fires and the trigger returns to its forward position, they reengage. The combination of the trigger safety, firing pin safety, and drop safety make the GLOCK the safest pistol on the market.


19 posted on 01/10/2011 6:46:22 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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