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Gabrielle Giffords shooting: Frightening, twisted shrine in Arizona killer Jared Lee Loughner's yard
N.Y. Daily News ^ | January 10, 2011 | Matthew Lysiak

Posted on 01/10/2011 4:14:22 AM PST by GlockThe Vote

Gabrielle Giffords shooting: Frightening, twisted shrine in Arizona killer Jared Lee Loughner's yard BY Matthew Lysiak In Tucson and Lukas I. Alpert DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

Monday, January 10th 2011, 4:00 AM

DAILY NEWS EXCLUSIVEMiniature altar with human skull replica in backyard tent at Jared Lee Loughner's home. DAILY NEWS EXCLUSIVETent containing shrine in Jared Lee Loughner's Tucson backyard. Related NewsArticles Giffords' husband blames inflammatory rhetoric for shootingBystanders help subdue Arizona killerA sinister shrine reveals a chilling occult dimension in the mind of the deranged gunman accused of shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.

Hidden within a camouflage tent behind Jared Lee Loughner's home sits an alarming altar with a skull sitting atop a pot filled with shriveled oranges.

A row of ceremonial candles and a bag of potting soil lay nearby, photos reveal.

Experts on Sunday said the elements are featured in the ceremonies of a number of occult groups.

Investigators have focused on Loughner's online anti-government ramblings as the chief motivation for the shooting Saturday of U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.).

The discovery of the shrine raises the possibility that Loughner, 22, may have been driven by other forces. Students and faculty at Pima Community College, which he attended until his suspension last summer, said Loughner was clearly at odds with the world.

"He was one of the last kids tocome in, and he sat down and almost immediately started laughing to himself in a way that was just kind of creepy," a classmate, Alex Kotonias, 20, told USA Today.

"As soon as the teacher started going over the syllabus, he had this outburst out of nowhere, didn't even raise his hand, and started asking the teacher some sort of weird questions about whether he believed in mind control."

Inside Jared Lee Loughner's home (DAILY NEWS EXCLUSIVE).

Adjunct Prof. Ben McGahee, 28, worried about violence. "I remember going home and thinking to myself, 'Is he going to bring a weapon to class?'" he told USA Today.

Lynda Sorenson, 52, who was in McGahee's basic algebra class with Loughner, expressed similar fears in emails to friends, The Washington Post reports.

On June 14, she wrote: "We have a mentally unstable person in the class that scares the living crap out of me. He is one of those whose picture you see on the news, after he has come into class with an automatic weapon. Everyone interviewed would say, 'Yeah, he was in my math class and he was really weird.' I sit by the door with my purse handy."

In September, college officials sent campus police officers to Loughner's home, where he lives with his parents, with a letter informing him he could not return without a mental health professional's written assurance that hispresence at college would "notpresent a danger to himself or others."

"It was obvious to everyone that Jared wasn't a normal guy,"said neighbor Anthony Woods, 19.

Loughner worked as a volunteer at the Pima Animal Care Center, where he walked dogs and cleaned cages. "He loved animals and was a good worker," said another volunteer.

Loughner had once tried to join the military but was deemed unsuitable, officials said.

mlysiak@nydailynews.com


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: countysheriffdupnik; dupnik; gabriellegiffords; giffords; jaredloughner; loughner; occult; sheriffdupnik; spiritualwarfare; witchcraft
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1 posted on 01/10/2011 4:14:27 AM PST by GlockThe Vote
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To: GlockThe Vote

There are pictures at the site. People blaming this on Palin are disgusting.


2 posted on 01/10/2011 4:15:16 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Send ths anyone stll blaming Palin.

Never in my life have I seen anything like ths.


3 posted on 01/10/2011 4:17:26 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

That does not look anywhere close to a shrine to me, just looks like a pile of junk laying around.

I guess he went cheap on the shrine.


4 posted on 01/10/2011 4:21:33 AM PST by fuzzybutt (Democrat Lawyers are the root of all evil.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Witchcraft eh? I guess it wasn’t Palin’s fault after all—it was Christine O’Donnell’s fault!


5 posted on 01/10/2011 4:23:40 AM PST by Huck (Do talk radio hosts get paid extra when they use the word "impugn"? It sure seems like it.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

More proof that gun control doesn’t work, but if guns were not so controlled, criminals might be subdued more quickly by those abiding by the law.


6 posted on 01/10/2011 4:25:18 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: fuzzybutt

Come on - a skull with candles arund rocks like that?


7 posted on 01/10/2011 4:26:12 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Potting soil and flower pots. A deadly combination.


8 posted on 01/10/2011 4:27:29 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: GlockThe Vote

This is a horrible story, but all this political staging going on to determine who this creep was aligned with (left or right) is absurd. Clearly this guy was FUBAR in the head, and IMO shouldn’t be tied to any group, left or right. Even if he leans one way or the other, it proves nothing about the group. Tick...tick...tick...BOOM! Just another nut who couldn’t function in society, nothing more.


9 posted on 01/10/2011 4:28:03 AM PST by Mich Patriot (...politics is the second oldest profession...it bears a striking resemblance to the first." RReagan)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Yes, the media is disgusting, but I wouldn’t put much stock in many of the “exclusive” photos or other claims. One has to ask how the “media” got those photos? I would think that the shooters house would be sealed off as a crime scene. Someone could have staged that photo elsewhere.


10 posted on 01/10/2011 4:29:08 AM PST by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Well well, seems the real evil he was involved in was the OCCULT.

Will the dummies place bills on the table to ban the Occult........and miss the chance to control the SPEECH of Americans.....probably not.


11 posted on 01/10/2011 4:31:29 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Huck
Perhaps these characters influenced the shooter. Obama let in them in country after the Haiti earthquake. Photobucket
12 posted on 01/10/2011 4:34:43 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: GlockThe Vote

The attributes associated with “mind control” are similar to what the mind would experience in “demon influence” or “demon possession”.

It doesn’t matter if one doesn’t believe in such things, but recognizing and not ignoring some people not only believe in them, but attribute their thinking to other such third persons manifests they are experiencing and recognize such attributes upon their volition.

The occultic evidence further manifests the criminal not only believed in the demonic, but was worshiping those persons.

Aside,...IMHO, if demon possessed, I find it peculiar the criminal would target a liberal Congresswoman, although conservative and liberal do not equate to righteousness and unrighteousness...so it might also be a ruse to commit premeditated murder, seeking notoriety, while providing for an insanity defense.


13 posted on 01/10/2011 4:36:49 AM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: bushpilot1

I had to shut the TV off because the coverage has been so ridiculous.


14 posted on 01/10/2011 4:37:38 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: Mich Patriot

Correct…. that the MSM feels completely ENTITLED to politicize this thing AND does so with perfect impunity, is proof of just how far our current politics and this administration have polarized America.

It couldn’t be worse if it was INTENTIONAL!! (I am not convinced it ISN’T!!)

It also demonstrates the pronounced bias and dangerously inimical posture the MSM holds toward Conservatism!

‘Journalism’ in America forfeited its objectivity and professionalism too long ago to even remember.


15 posted on 01/10/2011 4:39:15 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Mich Patriot
"Just another nut who couldn’t function in society, nothing more."

Which may well be true IN THIS CASE, but violence is a standard tool of the left. They use it regularly. And the media ignores it. But let someone with even a remote possibility of a link to the "right", and the entire leftist pantheon of commentators explodes in "righteous indignation" about how the right is the "party of political violence".

16 posted on 01/10/2011 4:39:26 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: GlockThe Vote

The ACLU, and their compliant judges, won’t let us
commit people like this guy. If thee is a finger to be pointed, it goes their way, and they know it. That’s why the liberals are jumping at the opportunity to blame someone else.


17 posted on 01/10/2011 4:40:44 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: bushpilot1

I find that photo quite interesting. What is it?


18 posted on 01/10/2011 4:42:23 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: SMARTY

Oh, I’m sure it is intentional. The MSM always jumps to link these nuts with the conservative movement, and it rarely pans out that way. No wonder they’re going broke.


19 posted on 01/10/2011 4:46:00 AM PST by Mich Patriot (...politics is the second oldest profession...it bears a striking resemblance to the first." RReagan)
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To: GlockThe Vote
People blaming this on Palin are disgusting.

Disgusting that some would use the death of a 9 year old girl in an attempt to smear a political opponent.

Actually, beyond disgusting, it exhibits a darkness of the heart and soul that borders on the pathological.

20 posted on 01/10/2011 4:46:55 AM PST by kanawa (Obama - "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: GlockThe Vote

There can be no doubt the vile smear attacks on Sarah Palin are being directed by the Incubus the White House.


21 posted on 01/10/2011 4:48:34 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Wonder Warthog
"...but violence is a standard tool of the left. They use it regularly. And the media ignores it."

You got that right. I'm still waiting for the media outrage over the Black Panthers at the polls in Philly. (crickets chirping)

22 posted on 01/10/2011 4:50:45 AM PST by Mich Patriot (...politics is the second oldest profession...it bears a striking resemblance to the first." RReagan)
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To: Mich Patriot

You nailed it, but now the fringe on the left and right will attack you.


23 posted on 01/10/2011 4:53:00 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: GlockThe Vote
Yeah. Every "right winger" has a shrine like that. Don't you? I know mine gives me great strength.

My sarcasm obviously but this won't slow down the progressives. For whatever reason they smell blood over this deranged killer. They will use him to try and marginalize all conservatives and do so against all reason.

24 posted on 01/10/2011 4:54:12 AM PST by JimSEA
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To: GlockThe Vote

Just had seen the pictures and truly they are sickening. Stuff like this opens the “doors” to the soul for demons to enter.


25 posted on 01/10/2011 4:55:28 AM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: bert

Haitian Voodoo adherents taken after the earthquake. It was being discussed Obama was letting them into the country as refugees.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 4:56:25 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bert

Photo of Haitian Voodoo adherents taken after the earthquake. It was being discussed Obama was letting them into the country as refugees.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 4:56:51 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Cvengr
"The attributes associated with “mind control” are similar to what the mind would experience in “demon influence” or “demon possession”."

You may be on to something here.

Several times yesterday I wanted to suggest the possibility that he may be demon possessed, but held back because I felt it would be as bad as all the others tossing out accusations without any proof to back it up.

This sure looks like there is a possibility he was dabbling in the occult and opened himself up to demon possession. I'll still reserve my opinion till there is a lot more evidence from good sources though.

28 posted on 01/10/2011 4:59:58 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie mmm mmm mmm)
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To: Fresh Wind

Fear not congress set to pass bill to require permit and back ground check for both.


29 posted on 01/10/2011 5:01:07 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Vaduz

Comments at the site some are still bashing the right over this. Truly idiotic.


30 posted on 01/10/2011 5:06:23 AM PST by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Where are his parents? They knew he needed help. Why didn’t they do anything in all the years preceding?


31 posted on 01/10/2011 5:08:07 AM PST by carmody
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To: GlockThe Vote
Giffords' husband blames inflammatory rhetoric for shooting

Really?

I blame the shooter.

But I'm just weird that way.

32 posted on 01/10/2011 5:09:20 AM PST by Allegra (You're a towel.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

His “shrine” sounds more like what you would find from a Mexican drug gang.


33 posted on 01/10/2011 5:11:14 AM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: carmody

Probably dopers themselves.


34 posted on 01/10/2011 5:11:44 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote
The NYT says people are asking "Why, why, why, why?

While the Miami Herald AP story explains it quite clearly.

[Excerpt]...........Loughner’s alienation from his friends was gradual.

The Loughner they met when he was a freshman at Mountain View High School may have been socially awkward, but he was generally happy and fun to be around. The crew smoked marijuana every day, and when they weren’t going to concerts or watching movies they talked about the meaning of life and dabbled in conspiracy theories.

For a time, Loughner drank heavily, to the point of poisoning himself, the friends said. Once, during school lunch break as a junior, he downed so much tequila that he came back to class, within five minutes passed out cold, had to be rushed to the hospital and “almost died,” one friend said.

Mistrust of government was Loughner’s defining conviction, the friends said. He believed the U.S. government was behind 9/11, and worried that governments were maneuvering to create a unified monetary system (”a New World Order currency” one friend said) so that social elites and bureaucrats could control the rest of the world.

On his YouTube page, he listed among his favorite books “Animal Farm” and “Brave New World” - two novels about how authorities control the masses. Other books in the wide-ranging list included “Mein Kampf,” “The Communist Manifesto,” “Peter Pan” and Aesop’s Fables.

Over time, Loughner became increasingly introspective - what one of the friends described as a “nihilistic rut.”

An ardent atheist, he began to characterize people as sheep whose free will was being sapped by the government and the monotony of modern life.

“He didn’t want people to wake up and do the same thing every day. He wanted more chaos, he wanted less regularity,” one friend said.

The friends said Loughner told anyone who would listen that the world we see does not exist, that words have no meaning - and that the only way to derive meaning was during sleep. Loughner began obsessing about a practice called lucid dreaming, in which people try to actively control their sleeping world.

Several people who knew Loughner at community college said he did not engage in political discussions - in fact, he didn’t talk much at all, and when he did classmates cringed.

“He made a lot of the people really uncomfortable, especially the girls in the class,” said Steven Cates, who attended an advanced poetry writing class with Loughner at Pima Community College last spring. Though he struck up a passing friendship with Loughner, he said a group of other students went to the teacher to complain about Loughner at one point.

Another poetry student, Don Coorough, said Loughner read a poem about bland tasks such as showering, going to the gym and riding the bus in wild “poetry slam” style - “grabbing his crotch and jumping around the room.”

When other students, always seated, read their poems, Coorough said Loughner “would laugh at things that you wouldn’t laugh at.” After one woman read a poem about abortion, “he was turning all shades of red and laughing,” and said, “Wow, she’s just like a terrorist, she killed a baby,” Coorough said.

“He appeared to be to me an emotional cripple or an emotional child,” Coorough said. “He lacked compassion, he lacked understanding and he lacked an ability to connect.”

Cates said Loughner “didn’t have the social intelligence, but he definitely had the academic intelligence.”

“He was very into the knowledge aspect of school. He was really into his philosophy classes and he was really into logic and English. And he would get frustrated by the dumbed-down words people used in class,” Cates said.

Loughner expressed his interest in grammar and logic on the Internet as he made bizarre claims - such as that the Mars rover and the space shuttle missions were faked.

He frequently used “if-then” constructions in making nonsensical arguments. For instance: “If the living space is able to maintain the crews life at a temperature of -454F then the human body is alive in the NASA Space Shuttle. The human body isn’t alive in the NASA Space Shuttle. Thus, the living space isn’t able to maintain the crews life at a temperature of -454F.” [End Excerpt]

http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/09/v-fullstory/2007904/sheriff-says-gunman-acted-alone.html

35 posted on 01/10/2011 5:11:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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36 posted on 01/10/2011 5:12:29 AM PST by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: GlockThe Vote
shooting a member of Congress and 19 others.

I thought it was 9 people who were shot.......

37 posted on 01/10/2011 5:14:44 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (There's only one cure for Obamarrhea......)
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To: GlockThe Vote

If there was a shrine to Jesus in his back yard, the media would be screaming about those evil, hate filled, violent, dangerous right wing Christian gun nuts. But we hear nothing about a skull set up in rotten oranges with candles.


38 posted on 01/10/2011 5:15:51 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Hhhhhmmmm, didn’t see palin in there at all.


39 posted on 01/10/2011 5:16:34 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: GlockThe Vote
Hidden within a camouflage tent behind Jared Lee Loughner's home sits an alarming altar with a skull sitting atop a pot filled with shriveled oranges.

CLASSIC TEA PARTY PARAPHERNALIA!!!

40 posted on 01/10/2011 5:19:04 AM PST by montag813 (Reading the Constitution to a Democrat is like reading the Bible to an Athiest.)
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To: Mich Patriot

Correct.... it’s a hoot though... the ‘journalists’ in America kill themselves trying to emulate actors and entertainers ... AND the Hollywood types trip over their own feet trying to pass themselves off as ‘relevant and informed’.
No one ever challenges or questions the basic dishonesty or lack of authenticity in the behavior of either and the views of both are taken for gospel.

‘Entertainers’ come off as credible as ‘Kabuki’ characters and ‘journalists’, look and sound like painted clowns.

These people have a ritual contempt for efficiency. They demonize all and any individuals or groups who expect personal honesty or professional performance in excess of the mediocre. Emile Faquet was too right when he wrote. ‘The Cult of Incompetence’


41 posted on 01/10/2011 5:22:09 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Libloather

Wonder if the hibernating vines in the photo..are native to the desert. Does not look like it.


42 posted on 01/10/2011 5:22:57 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: GlockThe Vote

Not one mention.


43 posted on 01/10/2011 5:26:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The pics do not match..the one with the tarp depicts flowering yellow plants..and the shrine shows dead vines.


44 posted on 01/10/2011 5:26:59 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Libloather

Are they sure the skull isn’t a bong?


45 posted on 01/10/2011 5:27:33 AM PST by listenhillary (20 years in Reverend Wright's church is all I need to determine the "content of his character")
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To: GlockThe Vote

One would think since this tragedy has the nation is such a state, the President would at least issue a statement to calm everyone down.


46 posted on 01/10/2011 5:32:33 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Mmogamer

The left are ruly idiotic look at the state they put us in.And they blame others,I wonder if they need help or just need to locked up.


47 posted on 01/10/2011 5:33:33 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Mich Patriot; All
This is a horrible story, but all this political staging going on to determine who this creep was aligned with (left or right) is absurd. Clearly this guy was FUBAR in the head, and IMO shouldn’t be tied to any group, left or right. Even if he leans one way or the other, it proves nothing about the group. Tick...tick...tick...BOOM! Just another nut who couldn’t function in society, nothing more.

Giffords' opponent is lucky to have lost the election. Otherwise, he or she would likely be where Giffords is today. This evil monster selected her because she was the district's U. S. Representative and, hence, the mass murder would get the gretest publicity. In that sense it's no different than the Columbine horror.

48 posted on 01/10/2011 5:34:54 AM PST by libstripper (uite eff)
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To: fight_truth_decay; LucyT; SE Mom; muawiyah

Here’s a photo of the paranoid schizophrenic Jerry Loughner’s alleged backyard “shrine” - pretty disordered, just like his mind....


49 posted on 01/10/2011 5:43:40 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

I may be criticized, but I agree with you, Apple Pan Dowdy. The fact that this young man can walk into a classroom and everyone in there with him senses something fearful in the room, that something is not right, and his tie to the occult, really gives credence to the possibility that he could be possessed, or close to being possessed, by the demonic.


50 posted on 01/10/2011 5:43:58 AM PST by AmericanMermaid
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