High court turns away appeal from 'birther' leader

Associated Press ^ | January 10, 2011 | Associated Press

[Squeeky]

Are you the same “james” who is at Dr. C’s???

[wintertime]

If judges, legislators, electoral college members or military personnel want to see Obama’s birth records, they can go to a judge, get a subpoena and view the documents without Obama’s permission.

Translation:

You can not name even **ONE** judge, military person, electoral college member, or legislator who has **SEEN** or handled **ANY** government certified paper evidence of Obama's birth origins or his citizenships.

It is **impossible** for you to name even **ONE**!!!

The **only** evidence available is a few very questionable Internet postings and ( oh! so carefully) crafted statements from Fukino and Lingle.

So?...Why is it that 58% of the American public have doubts about Obama's natural born status?

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Here is some info from a well written blog that was cited earlier ... thought everyone might be interested, as I had not seen it before.

Amazing Birth Certificate Information #1:

*********** “I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same.”

Letter from Kitau in Mombasa, Kenya:

I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya. I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put on by Taitz and mine is exactly the same.

I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical.

I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven.

So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964.

The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the “copy” of the original was ordered. I stress the word “copy”. My copy also has republic of Kenya.

So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama’s birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.

The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here.

We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.

Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground.

It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.

I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted.

God Bless.

Kitau

http://www.thepowerhour.com/news4/obama_kenyan_birth_certificate.htm

http://write2fight.wordpress.com

I wonder how someone could follow up on this?

Is there no “let’s investigate O send yr donations for private detectives here” location?

Because that is the only way any investigation will ever be done ...

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Amazing Birth Certificate Information #2:

Grandmother of President Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals here the story of his birthGrandmother of President Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. reveals below the story of his birth in Mombasa, Kenya, a seaport, after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa .

"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombassa, Kenya.

Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her 9 month pregnancy.

It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obama's went to the beach to cool off.

While swimming in the ocean his mother experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 pm on August 4, 1961.

Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."

The local Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his middle name Hussein so his official name on his certificate of live birth below is Barack Hussein Obama, II.

Barack Hussein Obama is the first U.S. president born in Africa at the Coast Provincial Hospital, Mombasa, Kenya. The Hawaii Certification of Live Birth is a forgery and of no value.

See this Alan Keyes video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmujttc0oJc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxec1mjZwYg

[caption id="attachment_4794" align="alignleft" width="703" caption="Obama's African Birth Certificate Real"][/caption]

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

The libtards made great fun, you will remember, of the name E F Lavender -------- well, here is some detailed information that I had not seen before showing that, as always, we were right and the sneerers and insulters were wrong.

Amazing Birth Certificate Information #3:

“I asked a British history buff I know if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.

He called me up a few minutes ago and said “Sir Edward F. Lavender”

Source(s): ” Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library.”"

"I asked a British history buff I know if he could find out who the colonial registrar wasfor Mombasa in 1961. He called me up a few minutes ago and said "Sir Edward F. Lavender" Source(s): " Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library." Posted by Alan Peters at 11:56 PM

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In Amazing Birth Certificate Information #2, read:

Testimony from a Mombasa science teacher and the Mombasa Registrar of births that Obama's birth certificate from Mombasa is genuine.

A copy of President Obama's birth certificate that Lucas Smith obtained through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who got it recently directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.

[DontTreadOnMe2009]

Now all we have to do is get hold of the devil by one of his feet

Now all we have to do is get hold of the devil by one of his feet

[wintertime]

This is very interesting information.

[The Pack Knight]

You know that both those birth certificates have been exposed as forgeries, right?

The first one is a photoshopped copy of an Australian's birth certificate:



The second one was obviously fake because Mombasa was not part of the "British Protectorate of Kenya" in 1961. Also, neither the British nor their colonies used the "Month/Day/Year" format the second birth certificate uses.

You guys are going to have come up with some new material.

[jamese777]

Translation:

You can not name even **ONE** judge, military person, electoral college member, or legislator who has **SEEN** or handled **ANY** government certified paper evidence of Obama’s birth origins or his citizenships.

It is **impossible** for you to name even **ONE**!!!

The **only** evidence available is a few very questionable Internet postings and ( oh! so carefully) crafted statements from Fukino and Lingle.

So?...Why is it that 58% of the American public have doubts about Obama’s natural born status?

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There is nothing “carefully crafted” about: “...verifying Barack Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.” —Dr. Fukino

“...and that’s just a fact. It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor Lingle

When any member of Congress, any US District Court Judge or any US Supreme Court Judge reads or hears about those definitive and unequivocal statements made by two Republican officials from the state of Hawaii, they end up saying the exact same thing that the new Speaker of the House, John Boehner just said: “The state of Hawaii says that the President was born there. That’s good enough for me.”

If 58% of people have doubts about Obama’s natural born status, they can vote against him in the next election.

Obviously not a single member of Congress out of 535 had doubts because none of them filed objections to the certification of Obama’s electoral college votes at the Joint Session of Congress which was held to count and certify the vote of the Electoral College. If any two members of Congress (one Senator and one Representative) had filed a written objection with Vice President Cheney, the counting and certification would have been suspended and an immediate investigation would have ensued in BOTH Houses of Congress to resolve the source of the objection.
NOT ONE SINGLE MEMBER OF CONGRESS FILED A WRITTEN OBJECTION.

[TNTNT]

Nobody outside of birther fantasyland cares about your question. It is totally irrelevant to to issue of whether Obama is eligible to be president. What you are trying to do is similar to Lakin’s attempted claim at his court martial trial. His bogus defense was as irrelevant to charges against him as your statement and question is to the discussion on Obama’s eligibility to be POTUS. You get as far with your statement as Lakin got with his. Only you won't have to go to prison.

[wintertime]

Nobody outside of birther fantasyland cares about your question

Fantasyland? 58% of the population are living in fantasyland? Really? Who's living in fantasyland? Is it 58% of American people or someone who would believe they are?"

Also...Now that Chrissy Matthews has called for the release of the **real** long form birth certificate, that percentage with questions about Obama's eligibility is likely even higher.

It is totally irrelevant to to issue of whether Obama is eligible to be president.

You can not name even **ONE** legislator, judge, congressman, or military person has seen any government certified evidence. Can you name even **ONE** person from Hawaii who visited the new family in the hospital, brought over meals or gifts to the new mom and baby, or attended the christening. Or...Shall we call this the "Immaculate Birth"?

Well?...In the court of public opinion the above is relevant.

Oh!..By the way, Joseph Farah put up a "Where's the Birth Certificate?" billboard in Elkton, Md., on route 40. I used to live there. Route 40 is a very busy road.

[TNTNT]

Your argument makes no sense until you get a single member of Congress or any state legislature to request or subpoena Obama’s BC. It is quite telling that out of the thousands of legislators in this country, not a single one has even tried that simple process. I am sure most, if not all legislators in the USA agree with Speaker Boehner’s latest statement on this issue.

You really should look up the definition non-sequitor in the dictionary so you can stop making these silly arguments. From reading previous posts of yours, it appears you get something that is completely not germane to the subject and can't let go. I realize it difficult to make up birther talking points, but you need a new one.

[wintertime]

Drip Drip Drip.

[nosf40]

1. According to Hawaii UIPA law, birth registration INDEX data is public and MUST be released upon request - there is no standing issue here. Yet the DoH has refused to confirm that registration number 10641 belongs to Obama.

2. The DoH refused to answer even more trivial question: Whether they issued a COLB document to Obama on June 6, 2007?

3. Obama could authorize the DoH to release his BC. IN that case interested parties would have to pay for it and the state of Hawaii could make some money. It would be a win-win situation for everyone involved, right?

The only problem is the fact that there is no long form birth certificate from 1961 that would confirm Obama’s birthplace (Kapiolani Hospital).

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The Obama index data has been available at the Department of Health website for over a year now. Anybody can order the complete 1961 birth index file if they are willing to pay reprographic costs.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html

The Constitution does not require a president to be born in a hospital. Whether Obama was born at Kapiolani, at home or on an Oahu beach is irrelevant to his eligibility.

However the former Republican Governor of Hawaii has stated that he was born at Kapiolani and Kapiolani published a letter from Obama honoring the hospital on its 100th Anniversary and naming it as “the place of my birth.”

Obama’s birth records can be released without Obama’s permission to “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of compentent jurisdiction.”— Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18(b)(9)

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More lies and misdirections.

The registration number is part of the registration INDEX data. Claiming that birth registration index consists of the name only is stupid.

How would the DoH differentiate between people who were given the same name (or a person who changed their name as an adult to a name that already exists in the DoH database), if index data did not have a unique identifier (registration number)?

An opinion letter from OIP lawyers that specifically mentions the release of registration number as part of the index data is posted on the web.

You are also lying about birth index for 1961 being for sale. This was a lie that was first published by AP writer Mark Niese few months ago. He quoted Okubo, however, when people tried to order it, their money was returned with the note that only a cumulative index for 1961-65 can be purchased.

I am sure you are familiar with the following quote:
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”

Do you think that the high ranking government official told the truth?

[jamese777]

More lies and misdirections.

The registration number is part of the registration INDEX data. Claiming that birth registration index consists of the name only is stupid.

How would the DoH differentiate between people who were given the same name (or a person who changed their name as an adult to a name that already exists in the DoH database), if index data did not have a unique identifier (registration number)?

An opinion letter from OIP lawyers that specifically mentions the release of registration number as part of the index data is posted on the web.

You are also lying about birth index for 1961 being for sale. This was a lie that was first published by AP writer Mark Niese few months ago. He quoted Okubo, however, when people tried to order it, their money was returned with the note that only a cumulative index for 1961-65 can be purchased.

I am sure you are familiar with the following quote:
“I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.”

Do you think that the high ranking government official told the truth?

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Why do you think the previous Republican administration in Hawaii went to such great lengths to cover for and support a leftist Democrat?

Now that there is a Democrat administration running Hawaii, do you expect better results in getting access to Barack Obama’s original birth records?

The following is taken from the Hawaii Department of Health website:
Index Data
Haw. Rev. Stat. §338-18(d) states, “Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.” Refer to link above for HRS §338-18.

Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, and type of event is made available to the public. The director, in accordance with HRS §338-18(d), has not authorized any other data to be made available to the public.

Index data referred to in HRS §338-18 from vital records in the State of Hawaii is available for inspection at the Department of Health’s Office of Health Status Monitoring at 1250 Punchbowl Street in Honolulu. The public will be asked to provide identification and sign in to inspect the names and sex of all births, deaths and marriages that occurred in the state. Data are maintained in bound copies by type of event with names listed alphabetically by last name.

The index data regarding President Obama is:
Birth Index
Obama II, Barack Hussein
Male

To request a search for index data, provide a first and last name of the individual, and the type of event along with a self-addressed, stamped envelope. Requests must be sent in writing to:

State Department of Health
Office of Health Status Monitoring
Issuance/Vital Statistics Section
P.O. Box 3378
Honolulu, HI 96801

There may be a cost for search, segregation and copying based on the request. If prepayment is required, the DOH will send a Notice to Requestor form with the amount required for prepayment. Only a money order, certified check, or cashier’s check (make money order and checks payable to the State Department of Health) will be accepted. Personal checks will not be accepted. All fees are non-refundable; if no data is found after a search is conducted, the fees are retained to cover the cost of the search. Requests for index data will be sent out within 2-3 weeks after receipt of payment.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html