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Exclusive: Loughner Friend Explains Alleged Gunman's Grudge Against Giffords
Mother Jones ^ | Jan. 10, 2011 | Nick Baumann

Posted on 01/10/2011 3:40:55 PM PST by ruination

At 2:00 a.m. on Saturday—about eight hours before he allegedly killed six people and wounded 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.), in Tucson—Jared Lee Loughner phoned an old and close friend with whom he had gone to high school and college. The friend, Bryce Tierney, was up late watching TV, but he didn't answer the call. When he later checked his voice mail, he heard a simple message from Loughner: "Hey man, it's Jared. Me and you had good times. Peace out. Later."

That was it. But later in the day, when Tierney first heard about the Tucson massacre, he had a sickening feeling: "They hadn't released the name, but I said, 'Holy shit, I think it's Jared that did it.'" Tierney tells Mother Jones in an exclusive interview that Loughner held a years-long grudge against Giffords and had repeatedly derided her as a "fake." Loughner's animus toward Giffords intensified after he attended one of her campaign events and she did not, in his view, sufficiently answer a question he had posed, Tierney says. He also describes Loughner as being obsessed with "lucid dreaming"—that is, the idea that conscious dreams are an alternative reality that a person can inhabit and control—and says Loughner became "more interested in this world than our reality." Tierney adds, "I saw his dream journal once. That's the golden piece of evidence. You want to know what goes on in Jared Loughner's mind, there's a dream journal that will tell you everything."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; brycetierney; dup; duplicate; duplicatethread; gabriellegiffords; giffords; inception; jaredloughner; loughner; motherjones
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To: publana


It was his school counsellor....

21 posted on 01/10/2011 4:54:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Raycpa

Liberalism is a MENTAL DISORDER!! He’s a DEMOCRAT.

22 posted on 01/10/2011 4:58:52 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: publana

And you determined that how? You were privy to his journal/diary?


23 posted on 01/10/2011 5:12:17 PM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: FreedomForce

It’s just a young person’s way of saying bye. My kids are not liberals and they use the phrase.

I’ve never heard anyone over 30 say it...except a jerk trying to act cool, like “Jerry Rivers”. :)

24 posted on 01/10/2011 5:41:21 PM PST by alice_in_bubbaland (DeMint/Ryan 2012!!!!!)
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To: publana

From listening to an interview of the guy on FOXNEWs today.

25 posted on 01/10/2011 5:45:38 PM PST by publana (Time to go Galt.)
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To: annieokie

We watched that movie last night. When I heard about his “lucid dream” fantasy today on the radio, that was the first thing I thought.

26 posted on 01/10/2011 6:23:09 PM PST by TStro
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To: ruination

The entire article was informative. Thanks for posting it.

Near the end of the article, some statements stand out.
1)The former friend says he thinks the killer did it to “promote chaos”. Now, who else has promoting chaos as a goal, a way to make their commie dreams come true? Ayers and Obama and the rest of them. It’s part of the Cloward-Piven strategy to destroy America.( someone will correct the spelling of C-Piven if that is wrong)
2)The character “The Joker” is mentioned, and how the Joker loved to do very bad things just to do them and screw things up. We all know how the Joker is tied to Hussein. And he also seems to have a penchant for screwing things up and enjoying it.

Those 2 things just jumped out of the article. Well, that and the disturbing mugshot of the perp. Left wing moonbat that he is.

27 posted on 01/10/2011 7:13:48 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (Read my lipstick. "No More RINOs!")
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To: editor-surveyor
Oh, he knew it was wrong, and he pre-meditated it. Insane like a mad dog...and the same thing needs to be done with him.

But a lefty loon too. IMHO, no doubt about that.

Problem is, all leftists, marxists, socialists, statists, etc. are afflicted with the same. They just go about the abject control a little differently. But in the end it boils down to the same thing. Do as we say and fall under our control...or die.

28 posted on 01/10/2011 7:31:19 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (
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To: Jeff Head

>> “Do as we say and fall under our control...or die.” <<

Yes, in a nutshell, that is where we’ve arrived as a nation.

29 posted on 01/10/2011 7:44:40 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: TStro
And don't tell me you understood it? lol.

While the idea that one can plant IDEA's they want, to the right person, and let it seed, then it will/may become a reality. It would be impossible to reach into someones dreams to the 4/5th layers (I supppose that is what I got),

People, it was not worth the money spent on it, that is only if you also understood the "Matrix".

30 posted on 01/11/2011 8:37:44 AM PST by annieokie
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