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Fox News' Roger Ailes: "Tone it Down"
CBS ^ | 1/10/11 | Stephanie Condon

Posted on 01/10/2011 9:57:18 PM PST by pissant

In the wake of the tragic shooting in Tuscon, Ariz. that left six dead and 14 injured, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, Fox News President Roger Ailes is saying that his network and others in politics and the media need to "tone it down."

In an interview with Russell Simmons, published today by Simmons' website Global Grind, Ailes addressed the tragedy and the partisan rhetoric some say is to blame for the incident.

Ailes to some extent defended Sarah Palin's use of crosshairs imagery during the 2010 campaign, arguing that such rhetoric was not uncommon in politics. Palin has come under criticism in the wake of the shooting for having created a "target list" of lawmakers she hoped to unseat, including Giffords. Palin released a map featuring the 20 targeted House Democrats that used crosshairs to show their districts.

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But Ailes called the use of such imagery "bulls**t" and said "both sides are wrong, but they both do it."

"I told all of our guys, shut up, tone it down, make your argument intellectually," the Fox News president said. "You don't have to do it with bombast. I hope the other side does that."

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KEYWORDS: foxnews; giffords; murdoch; palin; rogerailes; rupertmurdoch; toneitdown
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Idiot. Next up, Karl Rove?
1 posted on 01/10/2011 9:57:24 PM PST by pissant
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To: pissant

It is the liberal media that needs to tone it down.


2 posted on 01/10/2011 9:59:04 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: pissant

You mean we need to sit down and shut up while the Left can assault us at every turn? Screw you, Ailes!


3 posted on 01/10/2011 9:59:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pissant

4 posted on 01/10/2011 10:00:35 PM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: pissant

I say tone it up.


5 posted on 01/10/2011 10:00:59 PM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: Weird Tolkienish Figure

I say give em hell, give em no quarter and double the vitriol!


6 posted on 01/10/2011 10:03:44 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: pissant

Eat it, Ailes.


7 posted on 01/10/2011 10:04:00 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: pissant
Mr. Ailes....et tu Brute?

Leni

8 posted on 01/10/2011 10:04:15 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: pissant

The left is not just the ones to STFU but get out of our faces and our wallets. Mind its own business and LUTF alone.


9 posted on 01/10/2011 10:04:33 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The Rodney King Riots: Courtesy of ABC, CBS, NBC & CNN)
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To: pissant
Obama told supporters today that a Republican victory in November would mean “hand to hand combat.”
The LA Times

''I don't regret setting bombs, I feel we didn't do enough.'' Lib-terrorist and Obama friend Bill Ayers

10 posted on 01/10/2011 10:04:44 PM PST by NoLibZone (Homosexuals oppose diversity.)
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To: pissant

Tone WHAT down? His speaking is the “synthesis” part of the Hegelian dialectic. The Communists(D) scream RACIST, the Progressives(R) say, no we are not. Then the Progressive(R’s) trim the political discussions. I mean, if they don’t cut the criticisms, people will not like them. Apologies to those that still believe the Republicans are conservative. After all the kowtowing to 0 during the lame duck session, I figure it proves my point.


11 posted on 01/10/2011 10:07:04 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
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To: pissant
Due to extenuating circumstances, I've watched TV for the last week (quite unlike the last 10 years). TV is all about the story of the story. They really cover NO news most days.

Retards, totally they are.

(Fox is as bad as the rest.) Useless, they are.

12 posted on 01/10/2011 10:08:42 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: pissant

Ailes should just keep Shepherd Smith and Geraldo as his only fulltime “reporters”. Then have Bob Beckel, Alan Colmes and Juan Williams as correspondents. He could keep the Chucklebee show and maybe replace Hannity with Karl Rove and O’Reilly with Mara Liasson. As far as a replacement for Beck’s timeslot, I hear Larry King is available. This will solve all his pesky problems and the MSM will stop saying mean things about him.


13 posted on 01/10/2011 10:09:56 PM PST by lonevoice (Where the Welfare State is on the march, the Police State is not far behind)
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To: pissant

I think this was aimed at Hannity, whom you have to admit does rant. OTOH he is usually right. But sometimes I wish he’d use a bit more of an intellectual approach.


14 posted on 01/10/2011 10:10:02 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than four years now-- But I think about it every day.)
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To: pissant

I’d like one example of Fox News spewing the same crap on the other networks. For Fox to tone it down anymore they’d have to close it down.


15 posted on 01/10/2011 10:10:34 PM PST by Terry Mross (.)
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To: Paladin2
Retards, totally they are.

After working more than 20 years in the media, mostly in broadcasting, I would have to agree. Just call me retard. And I mean that, sincerely.
16 posted on 01/10/2011 10:12:24 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than four years now-- But I think about it every day.)
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To: pissant

I read the whole article at that nit-wit Russells website no one ever heard of. Other than thinking why he would talk to this Commie Pinko Rap mogul, I thaught Ailes was good.

He is running a new organization. We complain here all the time at the crazy ramblings of the other news outlets. I like that FOX was at least adult in their coverage.

Except for that poofter Shemp Smith. He is a Lib Rat POS and was just itching to start bashing the right in his interviews with people with agendas.


17 posted on 01/10/2011 10:12:29 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: pissant

The quote attributed to Harry Truman,”I don’t give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it is hell.” should have been used by Ailes. Unfortunatly, he seems to have caved.


18 posted on 01/10/2011 10:12:44 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: pissant
The L/MSM are really having a bit of a problem with this one, given all the stuff that has been made known on the shooter's real allegiance and his mental condition and now known non-conservative or Tea Party leanings.
They are spinning their wheels like a bunch of kids that just got caught burning down some vacant building or something.
The kid attended a school Bill Ayers set up through his radical socialist networks that originated out of the Chicago thugs.
What almost floored me today. Was I just got done reading the excellent book written by Stanley Kurtz titled RADICAL-IN-CHIEF. That goes into the very details as how Ayers set up these schools.
A school as mentioned on this site that this poor bastard attended. They got his head so screwed on wrong with his most probably mental conditions to boot.... well. You know the rest of the story.
19 posted on 01/10/2011 10:14:22 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: pissant

He better be talking about Jerry Rivers....


20 posted on 01/10/2011 10:16:03 PM PST by Jrabbit
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To: malkee
It's amazing that radio works so much better than TV.

Both Rush and Beck are so much better on radio and cover info so much faster.

One would think that with the higher bandwidth of video (with sound) one could move faster, but the actuality is that radio (audio only) seems to be 5 to 10x faster.

Maybe it's the target audience?

21 posted on 01/10/2011 10:18:11 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: GeronL

IMO, Ailes and many if not most on the right have been snokered by the tactic the Dems and the Media are using.

This is not about pinning the tragedy on the tea party or Rush or Palin or anyone else for that matter, that is not the goal of the left. This is about what’s NOT being talked about. Last week we were on repeal of Obama Kare, spending cuts, stopping cap and tax, reducing the size and scope of the federal government, etc. etc. The Dems and the left are using this “crisis” as a diversion away from the new congress putting a stop to the assault on freedom and the statist march towards socialism.

Next week the speaker better be saying “business as usual” and we are going to do the job the American people hired us to do. The vote to repeal the obama care bill should take place first thing next week.


22 posted on 01/10/2011 10:21:24 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: All

23 posted on 01/10/2011 10:23:38 PM PST by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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To: Paladin2

I worked mostly in radio. The reason radio “moves” so much faster is that essentially, only one person (at a time) is involved. Something that takes one person to do on radio takes about 12 to do on TV. So it takes longer to produce and deliver. There are a lot more layers. OTOH, in my opinion, the people who work in TV are generally nicer than the people in radio because they’ve all learned to get along with each other. They have to.


24 posted on 01/10/2011 10:23:52 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than four years now-- But I think about it every day.)
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To: Paladin2

I listen to the radio only now. Do you have HD radio or satellite? Mine is only regular analog and am dying to have access to 24/7 news. I suppose satellite is the only option there?


25 posted on 01/10/2011 10:24:56 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Outlaw Woman

Internet radio just about covers it.


26 posted on 01/10/2011 10:26:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

Also, some people are just better on radio than TV. And vice-versa. Looks have something to do with it, but that’s not all of it. I am not a big fan of Beck but I always thought Rush was horrible on TV and great on radio. All I can remember are all those guys clapping in the audience. I just think some people are more confident on radio.


27 posted on 01/10/2011 10:27:28 PM PST by malkee (Actually I'm an ex-smoker--more than four years now-- But I think about it every day.)
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To: pissant
" Next up, Karl Rove?"

I expect Rove, then Huckster followed by Lindsey Graham.
the problem is there won't be any "toning down". This is the event liberals have been hoping for to bring the rhetorical ball back into their court. They are going to milk this for all its worth. This will be Koran flushing and Abu Ghraib times 50!

28 posted on 01/10/2011 10:27:33 PM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: pissant
Sure Roger, show up to the war armed with a feather.
Wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings.

No wonder we always seem to end up giving back every inch of ground we gain.

29 posted on 01/10/2011 10:28:45 PM PST by Bullish
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To: pissant

Ailes toned it down a long time ago.

And I tuned them out.


30 posted on 01/10/2011 10:31:10 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Paladin2

Well that’s well and good but have dial up. Not particulary conducive to streaming media. I thought perhaps you had other sources.


31 posted on 01/10/2011 10:31:16 PM PST by Outlaw Woman
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To: Baynative

They sure seem like they are hell bent on it. But Mr. Ailes capitulating over nothing is one way to fan the flames


32 posted on 01/10/2011 10:31:38 PM PST by pissant ((Bachmann 2012 - Freepmail to get on/off PING list))
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To: Paladin2
It's amazing that radio works so much better than TV. Both Rush and Beck are so much better on radio and cover info so much faster.

Radio is a spontaneous medium. The speaker can speak off the top of his head, without preparation. A caller can change the direction of the show on a dime. From a production standpoint, the medium is supple and agile.

TV is anything but spontaneous. Neither supple, nor agile. In fact, it's awkward. Every segment is rehearsed, to determine the order of speaking, the camera angles, the direction of the conversation, coordinate graphic support, etc.

Generally, it takes about eight hours to produce one half-hour "live-to-tape" show -- two hours of pre-production, four hours on the set, two hours of editing.

33 posted on 01/10/2011 10:33:52 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: Outlaw Woman
Audio might work on dialup. MP3's of past shows certainly would.

Checkout http://www.midnighttrucking.com/sectional.asp?id=25018

34 posted on 01/10/2011 10:35:25 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: pissant

And so the
media manipulation continues.
I turned off Hammity and FNC like 6 years ago


35 posted on 01/10/2011 10:37:28 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

What does Dicky Morris have to say? /s


36 posted on 01/10/2011 10:38:21 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

The left screams for “civility” when they’ve been caught lying yet again.

Ailes is wrong. They are spewing hate. We tell the truth.

They are, after all, the ones who blamed innocent people for this crime. We are defending the innocent. These two positions are not equivalent. Giffords herself accused the “tea party” and Palin of provoking violence on the part of people who would never hurt her, and meanwhile she never saw it coming that the crazies on her own side of the aisle were going to do her in.

We need to be developing more information networks of our own. We can’t be overly dependent on Fox; there has to be more.


37 posted on 01/10/2011 10:38:28 PM PST by marron
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To: marron
We need to be developing more information networks of our own. We can’t be overly dependent on Fox; there has to be more.

They are coming for the internet.

38 posted on 01/10/2011 10:43:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: pissant

Nov 2010

Mark Penn, Democratic strategist and former chief strategist for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, let out the kind of doozy, on last night’s Hardball, that must be seen to be believed. Comparing Obama’s current situation to the aftermath of the 1994 “Republican Revolution,” Penn noted that it took the Oklahoma City tragedy in order for President Clinton to “reconnect” with the American people.

He then stepped off the cliff by saying that President Obama needed a “similar event” to achieve that reconnection following his party’s midterm losses. (h/t Eyeblast)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mark-penn-says-obama-needs-similar-event-to-oklahoma-city-to-reconnect-with-voters/


39 posted on 01/10/2011 10:43:17 PM PST by kcvl
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To: GeronL

The pathetic aspect of the politics surrounding the massacre is the presumption and fabrication of the killer’s motivation.

The Left used the killings as a platform for their hatred of the Right.


40 posted on 01/10/2011 10:43:29 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: okie01
It would seem that TV could be at least as fast as radio. Calling up sound clips to play to support the host shouldn't be much easier than calling up video clips.

Plenty of folks have web video cams at their computer so that video calls could be the same as radio calls.

41 posted on 01/10/2011 10:43:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: lonevoice
This will solve all his pesky problems and the MSM will stop saying mean things about him.

Plus he'll get invited to all the neato elitist cocktail parties.

42 posted on 01/10/2011 10:43:56 PM PST by Bullish
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To: pissant

Nope. Keep fighting, we got’em on the ropes.


43 posted on 01/10/2011 10:46:51 PM PST by 38special (AK, CA, CO, NV, WA ... WTF?)
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To: pissant

Why doesn’t Ailes tell “Whore-aldo” to “tone it down?”


44 posted on 01/10/2011 10:49:50 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan......A Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: pissant

Liberals began this back in the 1960’s and came on strong after George W. Bush won Florida in 2000. They own and inflamed hateful rhetoric to new levels all during Bush’s presidency, with no objections from the media or Democrats.

If anybody needs to “tone it down,” it is they.

That any conservative or Republican falls for this trap set-up by the left is a tragedy in itself.

While they work diligently to silence dissent and opposition to their communist take-over, their hate rhetoric continues.

Don’t fall for it. If they were interested in “toning it down” there wouldn’t have been a full court press all weekend blaming the right for what of theirs did.


45 posted on 01/10/2011 10:52:28 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: pissant

Tone it down? How about turn it off?


46 posted on 01/10/2011 10:55:56 PM PST by csvset
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To: csvset

LOL! Bingo! You’ve gone too far now ... ;o)


47 posted on 01/10/2011 11:02:26 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
In the wake of the tragic shooting in Tuscon, Ariz. that left six dead and 14 injured, including Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, Fox News President Roger Ailes is saying that his network and others in politics and the media need to "tone it down."

In an interview with Russell Simmons, published today by Simmons' website Global Grind, Ailes addressed the tragedy and the partisan rhetoric some say is to blame for the incident.

Ailes to some extent defended Sarah Palin's use of crosshairs imagery during the 2010 campaign, arguing that such rhetoric was not uncommon in politics. Palin has come under criticism in the wake of the shooting for having created a "target list" of lawmakers she hoped to unseat, including Giffords. Palin released a map featuring the 20 targeted House Democrats that used crosshairs to show their districts.

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But Ailes called the use of such imagery "bulls**t" and said "both sides are wrong, but they both do it."

"I told all of our guys, shut up, tone it down, make your argument intellectually," the Fox News president said. "You don't have to do it with bombast. I hope the other side does that."

Very disappointing to hear this from Roger Ailes...

Read entire article here, and don't miss the hurl-worthy lefty comments after the article (FReepers, feel free to add your own comments!):

Fox News' Roger Ailes: "Tone it Down"

48 posted on 01/10/2011 11:07:14 PM PST by nutmeg (The 111th Congress: Worst. Congress. Ever.)
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To: Outlaw Woman

Try this...

http://www.newsandjava.com/watchfoxnewslive.htm


49 posted on 01/10/2011 11:10:45 PM PST by deks ("...the battle of our time is the battle of liberty against the overreach of the federal government")
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To: Gene Eric

Exactly, what you said. Just last Friday had a conversation with a colleage who does local Theatre...has for about 20 years. He’s conservative....he almost got into a fist fight - with a woman no less - because of the vitriol of the leftists in theatre....they attack him for being a Christian Conservative, and try and bait him all the time. He tries to return the conversation to theatre or something non-political, but NOOOOO...they want to harp and harp and harp. Liberals are abusive to conservatives and it is time to fight back.


50 posted on 01/10/2011 11:11:34 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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