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"If FR dies, thatís that." - Jim Robinson [Jim's reply at post # 588]
freerepublic.com ^ | 1/11/11 | paulycy

Posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:06 AM PST by paulycy

FYI -

Here are statements from Jim about the future of FreeRepublic.com for those who missed them. They are quite serious.

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"Well, I can say that there are definitely two things that will never happen. 1) Banner ads. 2) Oracle [a completely new database system.] And a third is a total replacement [of the current damaged system.] Don’t have the financial wherewithal."

"To those who wish to leave because of it, see ya."

"If FR dies, that’s that."

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[To: paulycy]

Hey, you want us to get an all new system with all new software and add a few more pricey techs, system programmers and database administrators to keep it all working 100% of the time 24/7/365? Well, start coughing up the big bucks.

It’s going to take tens of thousands of donations and many with at least three zeros each after the comma to accomplish the task. And that would be EVERY month like clock work to make the payroll. Once you take on a big load of expensive overhead, there’s no going back. As it is, we get a couple thousand donations per quarter averaging about $30 bucks each and there’s no guarantees we can cover this quarter’s expenses much less next quarter. We’re on a pay as we go system and we have zero employees.We just ask for enough to pay the bills.

Throwing more money at the problem won’t solve it. [This latest glitch] was a technical issue and we just had to keep troubleshooting until we found it. And no, we’re not going to invite a bunch of strangers in to get their hands on our secure systems. John has been programming since he was 14 and he’s pushing 40 now. He built these systems and he’s an expert in them.

And no, we are not going to throw out our software and rewrite it and no we’re not going to move on to some other database system. There are no guarantees that any other system can do a better job and not without hiring a staff to build and maintain it and that’s for sure. And we don’t have the financial wherewithal to do any of that anyway. Maybe if we had a couple million bucks at our disposal and a couple years to do it in we could build an iron-clad system. And maybe not.

All I can say is, if someone else can do it better and cheaper, then please step right on up and get ‘er done!! I’ll bow out and retire. Thankyouverymuch.

Hit it boys:

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/

And no, we have no plans of taking FR commercial. I like it the way it is. Not sure I could handle getting rich.

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- Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2653583/posts?page=168#168


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If FR dies, it goes away forever unless something changes. Is this acceptable to us?

FR is currently seriously underfunded. This is something we FReepers can do something about.

Comments? Suggestions?

Donate:

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/

1 posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:10 AM PST by paulycy
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To: paulycy

I’m here to the bitter end, which I hope never comes. This is a very necessary outlet!

I am a daily contributor. That won’t change! :)


2 posted on 01/11/2011 5:30:20 AM PST by LUV W (Thank God)
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To: paulycy

I couldn’t give much but if a Michigander who lives hand to mouth like myself could give $10, its pretty hard to deny that everyone couldn’t pitch in $5 or $10.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 5:31:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: paulycy

So anyhow did the recent fix purge a pre-existing bug from the system? At least that was progress.

I can’t see messing with Oracle or any commercial data base manager which would require bringing in “strangers” for support, for the same reason.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 5:34:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: LUV W

I’m here to the end with you, money’s tight, but did manage $10.00


5 posted on 01/11/2011 5:35:54 AM PST by IAmNotAnAnimal
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To: cripplecreek

...my monthly “payday” is tomorrow.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 5:36:14 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: paulycy; onyx
Bless you, paulycy.

Support The Light Of Truth

Donate To Free Republic

7 posted on 01/11/2011 5:36:44 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: paulycy
Throwing more money at the problem won't solve it. [This latest glitch] was a technical issue and we just had to keep troubleshooting until we found it. And no, we're not going to invite a bunch of strangers in to get their hands on our secure systems. John has been programming since he was 14 and he's pushing 40 now. He built these systems and he's an expert in them.

I can relate having programmed for about 35 years, always build from scratch, build it to last, not to throw away and start over every couple of years. My only suggestion is to stay the heck away from Oracle.

8 posted on 01/11/2011 5:37:39 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: paulycy

I’ll donate more when we start having banner ads. I live in a capitalist society. I have no problem with ads.


9 posted on 01/11/2011 5:39:29 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Jim Robinson

I’m with ya to the end, if I need to step up my monthly, let me know. I am, of course, going to get the FreeRepublicNews site up, and that will take currency and time, but in addition to that, I can assist here at Free Republic.

In short, I’d hit it.


10 posted on 01/11/2011 5:39:57 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: paulycy

What is ‘oracle’?


11 posted on 01/11/2011 5:41:19 AM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: Celtic Cross

Commercial database, expensive, bloated, complicated.


12 posted on 01/11/2011 5:42:09 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: paulycy
I wish I could give more than $10/month.

Actually, I really wish every user would give $1/month. Then we'd be flush!

13 posted on 01/11/2011 5:42:11 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: paulycy

Would it help to get rid of the superfluous forums? The Religion forum, for one, brings nothing but heartache and endless stabs in the face.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 5:42:54 AM PST by InvisibleChurch (Being awake is dangerous and silly.)
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To: paulycy

Oracle is not an option. It usually isn’t. Way overpriced for what it does, more hype than substance.

“...and no we’re not going to move on to some other database system. There are no guarantees that any other system can do a better job”

That’s very true in general in the software industry; changing X for Y without knowing first if it will do better is a bad idea.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 5:42:57 AM PST by Moose Burger
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To: Lazamataz

What’s the FreeRepublicNews site? Will it be separate from FR?


16 posted on 01/11/2011 5:43:17 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Don't retreat...reload!)
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To: Celtic Cross
What is ‘oracle’?

Oracle is an expensive, commercial database system used to hold all the information FR stores.

Most of the internet is NOT run on such an expensive system. Moving FR to such a system would be controversial even if we were rich (which we're not.)

17 posted on 01/11/2011 5:44:28 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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bttt


18 posted on 01/11/2011 5:44:49 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: paulycy
I have always made sure at least one other DB engineer knows what I've done in my databases. It's important to have a "walk in" guy, should anything happen.

There's a bunch of long term members who are IT professionals...it seems like one of the proven-trustworthy of them should be let in as a volunteer....if only as a second pair of eyes.

John's done a terrific job: I'd hate to see everything go up in smoke due to circumstances.

19 posted on 01/11/2011 5:45:25 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: Celtic Cross
What is ‘oracle’?

Wow, that is funny.

20 posted on 01/11/2011 5:45:25 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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