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"If FR dies, that’s that." - Jim Robinson [Jim's reply at post # 588]
freerepublic.com ^ | 1/11/11 | paulycy

Posted on 01/11/2011 5:28:06 AM PST by paulycy

FYI -

Here are statements from Jim about the future of FreeRepublic.com for those who missed them. They are quite serious.

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"Well, I can say that there are definitely two things that will never happen. 1) Banner ads. 2) Oracle [a completely new database system.] And a third is a total replacement [of the current damaged system.] Don’t have the financial wherewithal."

"To those who wish to leave because of it, see ya."

"If FR dies, that’s that."

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[To: paulycy]

Hey, you want us to get an all new system with all new software and add a few more pricey techs, system programmers and database administrators to keep it all working 100% of the time 24/7/365? Well, start coughing up the big bucks.

It’s going to take tens of thousands of donations and many with at least three zeros each after the comma to accomplish the task. And that would be EVERY month like clock work to make the payroll. Once you take on a big load of expensive overhead, there’s no going back. As it is, we get a couple thousand donations per quarter averaging about $30 bucks each and there’s no guarantees we can cover this quarter’s expenses much less next quarter. We’re on a pay as we go system and we have zero employees.We just ask for enough to pay the bills.

Throwing more money at the problem won’t solve it. [This latest glitch] was a technical issue and we just had to keep troubleshooting until we found it. And no, we’re not going to invite a bunch of strangers in to get their hands on our secure systems. John has been programming since he was 14 and he’s pushing 40 now. He built these systems and he’s an expert in them.

And no, we are not going to throw out our software and rewrite it and no we’re not going to move on to some other database system. There are no guarantees that any other system can do a better job and not without hiring a staff to build and maintain it and that’s for sure. And we don’t have the financial wherewithal to do any of that anyway. Maybe if we had a couple million bucks at our disposal and a couple years to do it in we could build an iron-clad system. And maybe not.

All I can say is, if someone else can do it better and cheaper, then please step right on up and get ‘er done!! I’ll bow out and retire. Thankyouverymuch.

Hit it boys:

https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/

And no, we have no plans of taking FR commercial. I like it the way it is. Not sure I could handle getting rich.

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- Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2653583/posts?page=168#168


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To: DJ MacWoW
You're right. It's been almost a year.

I'm just saying that there are certain things that don't add up from a third person's point of view here. That's the genesis of my post. I LOVE FR. I appreciate it just as it is. I want it to survive. I want to patch whatever temporary flaws it has, such as the fried server. Why isn't at least THAT out in the open and being addressed?

I don't get it.

721 posted on 01/11/2011 10:41:26 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: metmom

Now loook.

We have toooo much fun there for it to be THAT restricted!

Sheesh, Mom!


722 posted on 01/11/2011 10:41:55 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: paulycy
If FR dies...

It'll be Bushes fault.

It'll be because of Palin's hate speech.

It'll be GOOD for the country.

It'll be cause for rejoicing over at DU.

Yada...

Yada...

Yada...

723 posted on 01/11/2011 10:42:54 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: paulycy

So we had his attention twice now and neither of us asked. LOL!!!


724 posted on 01/11/2011 10:42:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: Windflier; Jim Robinson

I make up business cards with the FR logo and it’s mission statement and URL and hand them out to interested parties.
I was at my local Tea Party meeting the other night and got into a conversation with some folks who had never heard of FR. Frankly, I was really surprised at that, but I repeated the name of the site to them several times so that they would remember it.

On the way home, I thought to myself how nice it would be if Jim Rob offered FR business cards for sale on the site. I would buy them, and hand them out. Now that so many of us are off the couch and active in our communities, it’s an idea whose time has come.
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Pinging Jim to this because he should see some of these ideas and yours is a good one.


725 posted on 01/11/2011 10:43:48 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: DJ MacWoW
FR lives hand to mouth and Freepathons are taking longer to fulfill. It may be that sometime we won't complete a fundraiser and that will be that.

I've heard that if we don't kiss MORMON butt, that they will withdraw THEIR support and we'll ALL be sorry then!

726 posted on 01/11/2011 10:44:27 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DJ MacWoW
So we had his attention twice now and neither of us asked. LOL!!!

I have a hunch I'm not his favorite FReeper right now...

727 posted on 01/11/2011 10:44:33 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: MARTIAL MONK

Within 15 min arriving at my future Mother-in-law’s from a trip to Israel where I met my future wife . . . having had no shower for 48 hours due luggage hassles etc.

standing in her kitchen . . . this rather tall and stout woman let out a hugely noisey flapping fart.

After which she merely said

“Oh, welll, welcome to the family!”


728 posted on 01/11/2011 10:45:57 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: central_va

Yes, I’ve heard that.

We can pray and vote and write our reps.

And post on FR as long as it remains anonymous. I honestly haven’t thought what I’ll do in that situation. I’ll just cross that bridge when we come to it.

Sadly, there are some FReepers I’ve had run ins with who I would not want to know where I live. Not to mention the other nutcases (like Greg West et al) who aren’t on FR but are trying to smear good FReepers off site.


729 posted on 01/11/2011 10:46:20 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: republicanbred
As a Latter Day Saint I have to hold my nose and donate due to all of the Mormon Bashing that goes on.

Plug up the other end!


 
 


http://scriptures.lds.org/en/js_h/1/17#17

  17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!
  18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join.
  19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: “they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.”
  20 He again forbade me to join with any of them; and many other things did he say unto me, which I cannot write at this time. When I came to myself again, I found myself lying on my back, looking up into heaven. When the light had departed, I had no strength; but soon recovering in some degree, I went home. And as I leaned up to the fireplace, mother inquired what the matter was. I replied, “Never mind, all is well—I am well enough off.” I then said to my mother,
“I have learned for myself that Presbyterianism is not true.”
 
 
And, continuing thru the years, the high ranking leaders of that Organization have said the same!
 
Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price, Joseph Smith-History 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p.196).
 

730 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:31 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jim Robinson

Thank you, Jim. I’m an “old dog”, too. In some instances, *change* is not a good thing...


731 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:34 AM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: paulycy; All
"I'm just saying that there are certain things that don't add up from a third person's point of view here."


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732 posted on 01/11/2011 10:47:56 AM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

You’re the only one really crying about it
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Not really - he’s just the only one taking the time to respond to you. The vast majority of us feel the same way but can’t be bothered w/pettiness about an iPhone from someone that freely admits to having the wherewithal to purchase that and more but cannot bother to spend $5 to support a site they admit they use frequently.


733 posted on 01/11/2011 10:48:34 AM PST by leapfrog0202 ("the American presidency is not supposed to be a journey of personal discovery" Sarah Palin)
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To: republicanbred
Not sure if it is allowed because Jm Robinson is anti-Mormon or just gets pleasure from others bashing us.

Let me help your wondering: Jim is pro-JESUS: the TRUE one!

734 posted on 01/11/2011 10:48:47 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And the Rinos. Don’t forget the Rinos. The Big Tent has worked so well for Republicans! /s


735 posted on 01/11/2011 10:49:12 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: musicman

lol!


736 posted on 01/11/2011 10:49:38 AM PST by paulycy (The Constitution is a Formal Contract. Live up to it or lose your job, Congress.)
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To: paulycy

If Jim had a problem with you, believe me, he isn’t shy about saying so.


737 posted on 01/11/2011 10:49:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: reaganaut

See what I mean? We can’t even have a discussion about this place without somebody having to cut and paste and bring anti-brand of someone elses idea of salvation to junk up the thread, hence, the term, .The FRinquisition.A band of about a half dozen or so posters that insist upon brow beating others into submission, EVERYDAY!!!!Damn some of us get sick and tired of it.Give it a rest, Go to church or something,One day Y’all or gonna OD on that stuff.


738 posted on 01/11/2011 10:50:02 AM PST by eastforker (Visit me at http://www.eastforker.com)
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To: brytlea; metmom; Paragon Defender; Jim Robinson
Here's a post in the first of the offending threads that may help to shed some light on what happened.

This thread was originally posted in the Religion forum as a LDS Caucus thread by Paragon Defender. Jim Robinson removed the Caucus designation and moved the thread to News/Activism, listing it in Breaking News.

There are newer threads also started by Paragon Defender where the issue had continued to develop.

739 posted on 01/11/2011 10:50:06 AM PST by delacoert
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To: Poser

Don’t tell MVPEL.


740 posted on 01/11/2011 10:50:50 AM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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