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(Time) Mark Halperin: Conservatives should turn the other cheek when scapegoated for murder
Daily Caller ^ | 1/11/2011 | Mary Katherine Ham

Posted on 01/11/2011 8:06:24 AM PST by markomalley

During a discussion on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” Tuesday, the panel conceded that conservatives and Tea Party activists were unfairly scapegoated in the wake of Jared Lee Loughner’s shooting spree in Tucson, Ariz., which killed six and left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords fighting for her life after a gunshot wound to the head. Mark Halperin of Time just thinks conservatives shouldn’t bother defending themselves, so as to avoid further political escalation.

“Obviously, the initial reaction was so offensive to conservatives it has united everybody from Rush Limbaugh to David Brooks this morning, who wrote a very, very compelling piece that the scapegoating was an offensive act,” Joe Scarborough said during a discussion about the politicization of the tragedy.

Despite claiming the media had behaved “pretty well so far,” Halperin seemed to agree with Scarborough’s assertion that “a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives.” But he seemed to find more fault with how conservatives reacted to unfair attacks than with the original accusations.

“I just want to single out one thing. I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far.I’m worried about the anger of the right-wing commentariat,” Halperin said. “Fox and George Will and other conservatives are in some cases justifiably upset at liberals, but they’re turning this back into the standard operating procedure of ‘all this is war and fodder for content’ rather than trying to bring the country together.”

“Wait a second,” Scarborough responded. “I think they would say that you have that backwards, that a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives.”

Halperin: “And, I already made that criticism, as well. they’re right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they’re back at their war stations. that’s not going to help us.”

The conversation then pivoted from a discussion of the actual facts to yet another lecture on rhetoric, with Scarborough hoping conservatives see it as a “wake-up call” on rhetoric even though he had just established that there was no connection between rhetoric and the shooting.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: giffords; halperin; liberalmedia; scapegoat; timemag
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1 posted on 01/11/2011 8:06:26 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Halperin is involved in this in some manner. Leave no stone unturned identifying each and every smarmy Leftwingtard who had a hand in the killings, or the leadup to them.


2 posted on 01/11/2011 8:08:55 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: markomalley

Morning Joe was ridiculous this morning. Joe was all about calling out Fox, Beck, and Palin but NOT for the shooting of course but for sake of the conversation. PUKE.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 8:09:14 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: markomalley

Halperin is just as deranged as Krugman.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 8:09:22 AM PST by skeeter
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To: markomalley

The nerve of us conservatives standing up to the left wing lies.


5 posted on 01/11/2011 8:09:31 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: markomalley
So the communists say normal people should not defend themselves from slurs ?

Only socialists are allowed the luxury of being offended?

BS.

6 posted on 01/11/2011 8:09:48 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: markomalley

Translated “Don’t let the facts get in the way of the narrative, The ultimate indisputable truth is that the tea party members are violent Nazis aimed at killing anyone who doesn’t agree with them.”


7 posted on 01/11/2011 8:10:02 AM PST by dila813
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To: markomalley
I’m worried about the anger of the right-wing commentariat,” Halperin said.

No you are not you ingenuous b*stard. You are interested in making up a new word.

8 posted on 01/11/2011 8:10:10 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: markomalley

Conservatives should start suing the Leftist media for libel. Sarah Palin certainly has a good case against Krugman and should get a lawyer ASAP. If conservatives “turn the other cheek,” the Left has no reason to stop their despicable attacks against patriots.


9 posted on 01/11/2011 8:10:29 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: markomalley

FU, Halperin. How’s that for turning the other cheek?


10 posted on 01/11/2011 8:11:03 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (A Jimmy Carter got us a Ronald Reagan......A Barack Obama will get us a Sarah Palin)
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To: muawiyah

Just want the left wants conservatives to do - cower in fear of being criticized by them.


11 posted on 01/11/2011 8:11:11 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: markomalley

I’ll turn the other cheek Mark but I don’t think it’s the one you had in mind.

(not you omalley)


12 posted on 01/11/2011 8:11:18 AM PST by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: markomalley
The people who go to "war stations" must be responded to.

If no one goes to "war stations" then there will be no vitriol, no need to respond, and we can have a civil discussion.

So, who went straight to "war stations" as soon as the shooting happened? Democrats.
And who is trying to curtail a response from us? Democrats.

I don' thin' so, Lucy.

13 posted on 01/11/2011 8:12:25 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: markomalley

Dear Mark,

When did you stop beating your wife?

(Mark in the article, not you the poster.)


14 posted on 01/11/2011 8:13:13 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: markomalley

Time for a few Tea Party rallies - with signs pointing out the complete lack of ethics and standards in the libelous lamestream media.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 8:14:01 AM PST by Dilbert56 (Harry Reid, D-Nev.: "We're going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war.")
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To: GoCards

They certainly are brave in “calling out” Beck. He’s had an open invitation to anyone on the left to come on his show but none of them have the manhood to do it. Seems that Glenn won’t make any agreements about what will or won’t be discussed.

Just a little reminder of what a pit Bull Beck can be when he interviewed Richard Blumenthal. Bloomy looked like he was going to cry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxVi1EzUmMI


16 posted on 01/11/2011 8:16:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: skeeter

What a regular half-wit this guy is!!


17 posted on 01/11/2011 8:17:45 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Dilbert56
Time for a few Tea Party rallies - with signs pointing out the complete lack of ethics and standards in the libelous lamestream media.

"END LEFTIST MEDIA VITRIOL!!!"

Like that?

18 posted on 01/11/2011 8:18:30 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: markomalley

If dentist and doctors offices were not counted, Time Magazine’s subscription base would be in the negative numbers.


19 posted on 01/11/2011 8:20:00 AM PST by AU72
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To: KeyLargo

You nailed the nonsense that conservatives do in response to liberals and their crap. What conservatives must learn to do is pay no heed whatsoever to the garbage spewed by the left-wingnut moonbats. To my way of thinking, the only argument we need to assert is that liberalism, along with all the other collectivist ideas, are all on the fast track to a totalitarian communist dictatorship and slavery for everyone except the ruling elite class.

Note that I do NOT mean that we shouldn’t keep an eye on them.


20 posted on 01/11/2011 8:24:40 AM PST by Marauder ("I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just" -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: muawiyah

Damn the Leftist Torpedos. Full speed ahead. They are on the run.


21 posted on 01/11/2011 8:25:03 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: markomalley
I am surprised Halprin would even be forced to admit the left is off the rails. He is a partisan leftist hack that is soft spoken. That makes people think he is rational. He is not. As a solution to the smearing by the left of the Tea Party and Conservatives is BS. When have the left ever backed down even when they are wrong?

On a lighter topic, Mary Cathrine Ham is hot.


22 posted on 01/11/2011 8:25:22 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: markomalley
Let me get this straight here. They accuse us of causing this assault to happen, and we are not supposed to just roll over! Gone are the days when they(liberal scum) could do this with impunity! There are far too many of us out there that are unwilling to allow our selves to be smeared and libeled the way we just were.

And What they did to Sarah Palin was disgusting! They should give her a very public apology. Hell, they owe us all an apology!

What this jackass from Time did was basically say, hey, you guys didn't have anything to do with it, but suck it up and stop complaining.

As for Scarborough, he is about as much a conservative as Elizabeth Hasselbeck! He can go ahead and tone down his rhetoric, but I will not be toning down mine!

If there is an atmosphere of hate out there, it has been fostered by the liberal democrats! THEY can suck it up and take it. They deserve it!

23 posted on 01/11/2011 8:25:37 AM PST by Mrs. Frogjerk
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To: AU72

If Obama Care becomes law then Doctors would buy that crap.


24 posted on 01/11/2011 8:25:46 AM PST by scooby321
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To: markomalley

Yes, conservatives should keep fighting by Queensbury rules while libs bring a knife - or a gun (to paraphrase obama).

We should just take it.

We shouldn’t defend ourselves.

God forbid we go on the offensive (or rather self-defensive).

We should be quiet, shut up, and let the left define the converstaion.

In short, we should keep on losing.

Well NOT THIS CONSERVATIVE, you blithering idiots at Time /spit!


25 posted on 01/11/2011 8:26:44 AM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: markomalley

SILVERDOCS PARTIES FOR AL GORE & MARTIN SCORSESE

June 15th
Ceviche Restaurant/Discovery World Headquarters

http://www.washingtonlife.com/issues/summer-2006/silverdocs_parties/images/silverdocs_parties05.jpg

Mark Halperin and Karen Avrich (his live-in chic)

http://www.washingtonlife.com/issues/summer-2006/silverdocs_parties/


26 posted on 01/11/2011 8:28:14 AM PST by kcvl
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To: markomalley
This conservative is done turning the other cheek. I am actively fighting back. Been on the phone and email a lot the last two days ripping everyone I can find that smeared the conservative movement over this - starting with Sheriff Dipshit.
27 posted on 01/11/2011 8:28:37 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: markomalley

Wrong. If conservatives shut up, it will be taken as an admission of guilt. And the Democrats will pick up the ball and run with it.


28 posted on 01/11/2011 8:29:49 AM PST by popdonnelly (Your political opponents want you to shut up.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Hey Halperin - I am turning my other cheek - and I fart in your general direction!


29 posted on 01/11/2011 8:33:03 AM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: markomalley

Mr. Halperin, who pals around with George Stephanopoulos


30 posted on 01/11/2011 8:37:39 AM PST by kcvl
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To: markomalley

There’s an old political maxim that if you turn the other cheek, it will get smacked too.


31 posted on 01/11/2011 8:38:16 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: markomalley

Classic example of “ The rules apply to those of the right, while we on the left do whatever the F8ck we want, while mocking you rule followers”


32 posted on 01/11/2011 8:46:39 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: markomalley
halperin said when running abc’s news division, that he and other leftists in the media were worth 15% in any election... due to their propaganda... so screw you mark. We will fight back harder than you can attack.

LLS

33 posted on 01/11/2011 8:47:28 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: markomalley

The leftist politboro may be getting uncomfortable with the blowback they’re getting from this little character assassination exercise. Unless the shooter can be coached to mumble something complimentary about Palin, their media minions are likely to start backing off.


34 posted on 01/11/2011 8:55:03 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: markomalley
Despite claiming the media had behaved “pretty well so far,” Halperin seemed to agree with Scarborough’s assertion that “a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives.” But he seemed to find more fault with how conservatives reacted to unfair attacks than with the original accusations.

“I just want to single out one thing. I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far.I’m worried about the anger of the right-wing commentariat,” Halperin said.

Halperin should not get his wish. Conservatives should pursue this to the nth degree.

35 posted on 01/11/2011 8:56:02 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: poobear

I heard a story about a boxer who became a Christian. Some guy walked up and smacked him in the face, the boxer didn’t respond. The guy smacked the boxer again, still no response. The guy smacked the boxer for a third time. The boxer put the guy on the ground. When he came to, the guy said, “Hey, you’re a Christian. You’re supposed to turn the other cheek.” The boxer said, “I ran out of cheeks”.

I think we may have run out of cheeks.


36 posted on 01/11/2011 8:57:28 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: markomalley

`Sweet Home America’

Hope Mark Halperin will remember, America don’t need him around anyhow.


37 posted on 01/11/2011 9:00:05 AM PST by tumblindice (Henry Fonda won a Bronze Star, his daughter won our contempt)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Is commentariat from the same dictionary as refudiate? And will anybody jump down his throat for making up a word?
38 posted on 01/11/2011 9:06:16 AM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: markomalley

Sorry folks but since the tea party is ow on the scene we demand equal treatment so you folks are not going to get away with what you have tried to do.It is you folks who look very bad right now not us! Turn the other cheek I think not it is better to show how much you people lie to anyone with 2 brain cells.


39 posted on 01/11/2011 9:17:30 AM PST by chris_bdba
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To: markomalley
to yet another lecture on rhetoric

Those who desire to preserve, protect, and defend our natural rights have no reason to feel guilt, nothing to feel ashamed about, and no reason to apologize for or to change their rhetoric. Natural rights are God-given, and so are our natural duties to preserve, protect, defend them. From these rights and duties we derive out perfect rights, such as self-defense and rebellion against a tyrannical government. Perfect rights permit the use of force to preserve, protect, and defend those rights which we have a duty to preserve, protect, and defend. When libtards want us to stop speaking out against tyranny, they want us to disobey God.

40 posted on 01/11/2011 9:29:15 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Obama on your shoulder”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kJTIbZM9Zo


41 posted on 01/11/2011 9:35:23 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: markomalley

Personally, I’ve always had a slight issue with the biblical “Turn the other cheek” directive. It seems like the action of a wuss.

One of America’s greatest military leaders made much more sense....

“War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, so I propse to give them all the war they want.”Von Clausewitz made much more sense....

- Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman


42 posted on 01/11/2011 9:38:14 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: markomalley
Halperin: “And, I already made that criticism, as well. they’re right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, they’re back at their war stations. that’s not going to help us.”

First, Halperin should apologize for using war-like language "war stations" is going to just encourage people to shoot their opponents. /sarc.

Second, who is this "we" that Halperin thinks is not helped? His left-wing buddies? Of course they won't be helped, because we are showing how offensive they are to use even the shooting of their own colleague (who they didn't like very well anyway) for cheap political fodder.

And I can't think of anything more uncivil, more impolitic, more indicative of violent, inflammed rhetoric, than accusing your opponent of complicity in murder, especially when there is absolutely no evidence to back your accusation.

43 posted on 01/11/2011 9:41:48 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: markomalley

God help us if some tea party fringe person (or a tea party poser [won’t put it past a disruptor]) actually does do something like this. I shudder to imagine the reaction and freedom clampdowns that would follow such an act.


44 posted on 01/11/2011 9:42:28 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: markomalley

Dear Mr. Halperin. You can go *entertain* yourself!


45 posted on 01/11/2011 9:44:00 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: CedarDave

THat was hilarious! thank you.


46 posted on 01/11/2011 10:04:01 AM PST by GoCards (Why me? Why not me?)
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To: kcvl
Here is the payoff for being an nerdy dork of an effeminate, Alan Alda styled Lib hack. You can pick up mind-numb feminist chicks at Vassar.


47 posted on 01/11/2011 10:13:28 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Let’s just say that the Biblical “turn the other cheek” doesn’t mean what most people think it does, and it certainly doesn’t mean what these godless leftscum are trying to say it does. Busy now, but if I get a chance I’ll add some detail/links...


48 posted on 01/11/2011 12:56:53 PM PST by piytar (0's idea of power: the capacity to inflict unlimited pain and suffering on another human being. 1984)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Great smile. I’ve never seen her from the shoulders down before, looks like she keeps fit.


49 posted on 01/11/2011 12:58:19 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: markomalley
Jews, Blacks, gays, women and Muslims all have organizations that push back hard against any PERCEIVED smear or verbal gaffe made by anyone in the media, but Republicans must sit and smile while a nationwide lie is perpetrated against them for political advantage by the Left.

Really?

I don't think so.

50 posted on 01/11/2011 1:06:43 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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