Skip to comments.(Time) Mark Halperin: Conservatives should turn the other cheek when scapegoated for murder
Posted on 01/11/2011 8:06:24 AM PST by markomalley
During a discussion on MSNBCs Morning Joe Tuesday, the panel conceded that conservatives and Tea Party activists were unfairly scapegoated in the wake of Jared Lee Loughners shooting spree in Tucson, Ariz., which killed six and left Rep. Gabrielle Giffords fighting for her life after a gunshot wound to the head. Mark Halperin of Time just thinks conservatives shouldnt bother defending themselves, so as to avoid further political escalation.
Obviously, the initial reaction was so offensive to conservatives it has united everybody from Rush Limbaugh to David Brooks this morning, who wrote a very, very compelling piece that the scapegoating was an offensive act, Joe Scarborough said during a discussion about the politicization of the tragedy.
Despite claiming the media had behaved pretty well so far, Halperin seemed to agree with Scarboroughs assertion that a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives. But he seemed to find more fault with how conservatives reacted to unfair attacks than with the original accusations.
I just want to single out one thing. I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far.Im worried about the anger of the right-wing commentariat, Halperin said. Fox and George Will and other conservatives are in some cases justifiably upset at liberals, but theyre turning this back into the standard operating procedure of all this is war and fodder for content rather than trying to bring the country together.
Wait a second, Scarborough responded. I think they would say that you have that backwards, that a shooting was turned into fodder to attack conservatives.
Halperin: And, I already made that criticism, as well. theyre right, but rather than seizing on it and turning the other cheek, theyre back at their war stations. thats not going to help us.
The conversation then pivoted from a discussion of the actual facts to yet another lecture on rhetoric, with Scarborough hoping conservatives see it as a wake-up call on rhetoric even though he had just established that there was no connection between rhetoric and the shooting.
Halperin is involved in this in some manner. Leave no stone unturned identifying each and every smarmy Leftwingtard who had a hand in the killings, or the leadup to them.
Morning Joe was ridiculous this morning. Joe was all about calling out Fox, Beck, and Palin but NOT for the shooting of course but for sake of the conversation. PUKE.
Halperin is just as deranged as Krugman.
The nerve of us conservatives standing up to the left wing lies.
Only socialists are allowed the luxury of being offended?
Translated “Don’t let the facts get in the way of the narrative, The ultimate indisputable truth is that the tea party members are violent Nazis aimed at killing anyone who doesn’t agree with them.”
No you are not you ingenuous b*stard. You are interested in making up a new word.
Conservatives should start suing the Leftist media for libel. Sarah Palin certainly has a good case against Krugman and should get a lawyer ASAP. If conservatives “turn the other cheek,” the Left has no reason to stop their despicable attacks against patriots.
FU, Halperin. How’s that for turning the other cheek?
Just want the left wants conservatives to do - cower in fear of being criticized by them.
I’ll turn the other cheek Mark but I don’t think it’s the one you had in mind.
(not you omalley)
If no one goes to "war stations" then there will be no vitriol, no need to respond, and we can have a civil discussion.
So, who went straight to "war stations" as soon as the shooting happened? Democrats.
And who is trying to curtail a response from us? Democrats.
I don' thin' so, Lucy.
When did you stop beating your wife?
(Mark in the article, not you the poster.)
Time for a few Tea Party rallies - with signs pointing out the complete lack of ethics and standards in the libelous lamestream media.
They certainly are brave in “calling out” Beck. He’s had an open invitation to anyone on the left to come on his show but none of them have the manhood to do it. Seems that Glenn won’t make any agreements about what will or won’t be discussed.
Just a little reminder of what a pit Bull Beck can be when he interviewed Richard Blumenthal. Bloomy looked like he was going to cry.
What a regular half-wit this guy is!!
"END LEFTIST MEDIA VITRIOL!!!"
If dentist and doctors offices were not counted, Time Magazine’s subscription base would be in the negative numbers.
You nailed the nonsense that conservatives do in response to liberals and their crap. What conservatives must learn to do is pay no heed whatsoever to the garbage spewed by the left-wingnut moonbats. To my way of thinking, the only argument we need to assert is that liberalism, along with all the other collectivist ideas, are all on the fast track to a totalitarian communist dictatorship and slavery for everyone except the ruling elite class.
Note that I do NOT mean that we shouldn’t keep an eye on them.
Damn the Leftist Torpedos. Full speed ahead. They are on the run.
On a lighter topic, Mary Cathrine Ham is hot.
And What they did to Sarah Palin was disgusting! They should give her a very public apology. Hell, they owe us all an apology!
What this jackass from Time did was basically say, hey, you guys didn't have anything to do with it, but suck it up and stop complaining.
As for Scarborough, he is about as much a conservative as Elizabeth Hasselbeck! He can go ahead and tone down his rhetoric, but I will not be toning down mine!
If there is an atmosphere of hate out there, it has been fostered by the liberal democrats! THEY can suck it up and take it. They deserve it!
If Obama Care becomes law then Doctors would buy that crap.
Yes, conservatives should keep fighting by Queensbury rules while libs bring a knife - or a gun (to paraphrase obama).
We should just take it.
We shouldn’t defend ourselves.
God forbid we go on the offensive (or rather self-defensive).
We should be quiet, shut up, and let the left define the converstaion.
In short, we should keep on losing.
Well NOT THIS CONSERVATIVE, you blithering idiots at Time /spit!
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Mark Halperin and Karen Avrich (his live-in chic)
Wrong. If conservatives shut up, it will be taken as an admission of guilt. And the Democrats will pick up the ball and run with it.
Hey Halperin - I am turning my other cheek - and I fart in your general direction!
Mr. Halperin, who pals around with George Stephanopoulos
There’s an old political maxim that if you turn the other cheek, it will get smacked too.
Classic example of “ The rules apply to those of the right, while we on the left do whatever the F8ck we want, while mocking you rule followers”
The leftist politboro may be getting uncomfortable with the blowback they’re getting from this little character assassination exercise. Unless the shooter can be coached to mumble something complimentary about Palin, their media minions are likely to start backing off.
I just want to single out one thing. I think the media and the politicians have behaved pretty well so far.Im worried about the anger of the right-wing commentariat, Halperin said.
Halperin should not get his wish. Conservatives should pursue this to the nth degree.
I heard a story about a boxer who became a Christian. Some guy walked up and smacked him in the face, the boxer didn’t respond. The guy smacked the boxer again, still no response. The guy smacked the boxer for a third time. The boxer put the guy on the ground. When he came to, the guy said, “Hey, you’re a Christian. You’re supposed to turn the other cheek.” The boxer said, “I ran out of cheeks”.
I think we may have run out of cheeks.
`Sweet Home America’
Hope Mark Halperin will remember, America don’t need him around anyhow.
Sorry folks but since the tea party is ow on the scene we demand equal treatment so you folks are not going to get away with what you have tried to do.It is you folks who look very bad right now not us! Turn the other cheek I think not it is better to show how much you people lie to anyone with 2 brain cells.
Those who desire to preserve, protect, and defend our natural rights have no reason to feel guilt, nothing to feel ashamed about, and no reason to apologize for or to change their rhetoric. Natural rights are God-given, and so are our natural duties to preserve, protect, defend them. From these rights and duties we derive out perfect rights, such as self-defense and rebellion against a tyrannical government. Perfect rights permit the use of force to preserve, protect, and defend those rights which we have a duty to preserve, protect, and defend. When libtards want us to stop speaking out against tyranny, they want us to disobey God.
“Obama on your shoulder”
Personally, I’ve always had a slight issue with the biblical “Turn the other cheek” directive. It seems like the action of a wuss.
One of America’s greatest military leaders made much more sense....
“War is the remedy our enemies have chosen, so I propse to give them all the war they want.”Von Clausewitz made much more sense....
- Gen. William Tecumseh Sherman
First, Halperin should apologize for using war-like language "war stations" is going to just encourage people to shoot their opponents. /sarc.
Second, who is this "we" that Halperin thinks is not helped? His left-wing buddies? Of course they won't be helped, because we are showing how offensive they are to use even the shooting of their own colleague (who they didn't like very well anyway) for cheap political fodder.
And I can't think of anything more uncivil, more impolitic, more indicative of violent, inflammed rhetoric, than accusing your opponent of complicity in murder, especially when there is absolutely no evidence to back your accusation.
God help us if some tea party fringe person (or a tea party poser [won’t put it past a disruptor]) actually does do something like this. I shudder to imagine the reaction and freedom clampdowns that would follow such an act.
Dear Mr. Halperin. You can go *entertain* yourself!
THat was hilarious! thank you.
Let’s just say that the Biblical “turn the other cheek” doesn’t mean what most people think it does, and it certainly doesn’t mean what these godless leftscum are trying to say it does. Busy now, but if I get a chance I’ll add some detail/links...
Great smile. I’ve never seen her from the shoulders down before, looks like she keeps fit.
I don't think so.