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Carbon injected underground now leaking, Saskatchewan farmer's study says
The Canadian Press ^ | 01/11/2011 10:22 AM | Bob Weber, The Canadian Press

Posted on 01/11/2011 11:03:34 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Carbon injected underground now leaking, Saskatchewan farmer's study says

By: Bob Weber, The Canadian Press

A Saskatchewan farm couple whose land lies over the world's largest carbon capture and storage project says greenhouse gases that were supposed to have been injected permanently underground are leaking out, killing animals and sending groundwater foaming to the surface like shaken-up soda pop.

Cameron and Jane Kerr, who own nine quarter-sections of land above the Weyburn oilfield in eastern Saskatchewan, released a consultant's report Tuesday that claims to link high concentrations of carbon dioxide in their soil to the 8,000 tonnes of the gas injected underground every day by energy giant Cenovus in its attempt to enhance oil recovery and fight climate change.

"We knew, obviously, there was something wrong," said Jane Kerr.

Cameron Kerr, 64, said he has farmed in the area all his life and never had any problems until 2003, when he agreed to dig a gravel quarry.

That gravel was for a road to a plant owned by EnCana — now Cenovus — which had begun three years earlier to inject massive amounts of carbon dioxide underground to force more oil out of the aging field.

Cenovus has injected more than 13 million tonnes of the gas underground. The project has become a global hotspot for research into carbon capture and storage, a technology that many consider one of the best hopes for keeping greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.

By 2005, Cameron Kerr had begun noticing problems in a pair of ponds which had formed at the bottom of the quarry. They developed algae blooms, clots of foam and several colours of scum — red, yellow and silver-blue. Sometimes, the ponds bubbled. Small animals — cats, rabbits, goats — were regularly found dead a few metres away.

Then there were the explosions.

"At night we could hear this sort of bang like a cannon going off," said Jane Kerr, 58. "We'd go out and check the gravel pit and, in the walls, it (had) blown a hole in the side and there would be all this foaming coming out of this hole."

"Just like you shook up a bottle of Coke and had your finger over it and let it spray," added her husband.

The water, said Jane Kerr, came out of the ground carbonated.

"It would fizz and foam."

Alarmed, the couple left their farm and moved to Regina.

"It was getting too dangerous to live there," Cameron Kerr said.

In 2006, Cameron Kerr said, the province's New Democrat government agreed to conduct a year-long study to find out what was going on. That government fell to the Saskatchewan Party in the subsequent election and the year-long study was never done.

Cameron Kerr said provincial inspectors did conduct a one-time check of air quality — on a day, he added, with 50-kilometre winds. Then the Kerrs sold some of their cattle and paid a private consultant for a study.

Paul Lafleur of Petro-Find Geochem found carbon dioxide concentrations in the soil last summer that averaged about 23,000 parts per million — several times those typically found in field soils. Concentrations peaked at 110,607 parts per million.

As well, Lafleur used the mix of carbon isotopes he found in the gas to trace its source.

"The ... source of the high concentrations of CO2 in the soils of the Kerr property is clearly the anthropogenic CO2 injected into the Weyburn reservoir," he wrote.

"The survey also demonstrates that the overlying thick cap rock of anhydrite over the Weyburn reservoir is not an impermeable barrier to the upward movement of light hydrocarbons and CO2 as is generally thought."

Lafleur suggests the carbon dioxide could leak into area homes. The gas is not poisonous, but it can cause asphyxiation in heavy concentrations, which is what Cameron thinks happened to the animals around his ponds.

The suggestion that the Weyburn capture and storage project might be leaking could have implications far beyond one rural neighbourhood.

The Alberta government has committed $2 billion to similar pilot projects in Alberta. The United States has committed $3.4 billion for carbon capture and storage.

Norway has been injecting carbon dioxide into the sea floor since 1996. There are carbon capture and storage tests planned in Australia, Germany, Poland, the United Kingdom, China and Japan.

"I would like to see it stopped," Jane Kerr said. "I don't think it's doing what it's supposed to do."



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KEYWORDS: carbon; carbondioxide; climatechange; co2; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 01/11/2011 11:03:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Who did NOT see this coming?


2 posted on 01/11/2011 11:06:32 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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From Watts Up With That?:

CO2 sequestration ‘splodes in Saskatchewan

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Posted on by Anthony Watts

Click for details

From the “nobody could convince them it was a bad idea in the first place” department…

The Canadian Press – ONLINE EDITION
Carbon injected underground now leaking, Saskatchewan farmer’s study says

By: Bob Weber, The Canadian Press

A Saskatchewan farm couple whose land lies over the world’s largest carbon capture and storage project says greenhouse gases that were supposed to have been injected permanently underground are leaking out, killing animals and sending groundwater foaming to the surface like shaken-up soda pop.

Cameron and Jane Kerr, who own nine quarter-sections of land above the Weyburn oilfield in eastern Saskatchewan, released a consultant’s report Tuesday that claims to link high concentrations of carbon dioxide in their soil to the 8,000 tonnes of the gas injected underground every day by energy giant Cenovus in its attempt to enhance oil recovery and fight climate change.

“We knew, obviously, there was something wrong,” said Jane Kerr.

Cameron Kerr, 64, said he has farmed in the area all his life and never had any problems until 2003, when he agreed to dig a gravel quarry.

That gravel was for a road to a plant owned by EnCana — now Cenovus — which had begun three years earlier to inject massive amounts of carbon dioxide underground to force more oil out of the aging field.

Cenovus has injected more than 13 million tonnes of the gas underground. The project has become a global hotspot for research into carbon capture and storage, a technology that many consider one of the best hopes for keeping greenhouse gases out of the atmosphere.

By 2005, Cameron Kerr had begun noticing problems in a pair of ponds which had formed at the bottom of the quarry. They developed algae blooms, clots of foam and several colours of scum — red, yellow and silver-blue. Sometimes, the ponds bubbled. Small animals — cats, rabbits, goats — were regularly found dead a few metres away.

Then there were the explosions.

“At night we could hear this sort of bang like a cannon going off,” said Jane Kerr, 58. “We’d go out and check the gravel pit and, in the walls, it (had) blown a hole in the side and there would be all this foaming coming out of this hole.”

Read the entire story here

It reminds me of this 1965 sci-fi movie:

h/t to WUWT reader AnonyMoose

3 posted on 01/11/2011 11:07:13 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 11:07:15 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; ...

The Greenies...


5 posted on 01/11/2011 11:08:23 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So it would seem that dillution and dissapation via the atmosphere is a better solution...I would have thunk!!


6 posted on 01/11/2011 11:08:24 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So it would seem that dillution and dissapation via the atmosphere is a better solution...Who would have thunk!!


7 posted on 01/11/2011 11:08:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gee who could have guessed that pumping a gas undergone might eventually lead to it coming out of the ground?


8 posted on 01/11/2011 11:09:43 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: Army Air Corps; Ernest_at_the_Beach; marvlus; Fractal Trader; Whenifhow; scripter; grey_whiskers; ..
Thanx AAC & ERNEST !

 




Beam me to Planet Gore !

9 posted on 01/11/2011 11:10:11 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

gee! what a surprise!


10 posted on 01/11/2011 11:10:53 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...sending groundwater foaming to the surface like shaken-up soda pop.

Bottle it and sell it as aerated mineral water (like Perrier).
11 posted on 01/11/2011 11:11:32 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"We knew, obviously, there was something wrong," said Jane Kerr.

With your entire ridiculous psridoscientific worldview.

12 posted on 01/11/2011 11:13:31 AM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here is what I want to ask these envirodummies, why not inject the CO2 into green houses growing hydroponic tomatoes?

Seems more usefull than trying to inject it under ground, and if you are going to inject it under ground why put dump it into a natural gas well to help get more natural gas out of it.


13 posted on 01/11/2011 11:13:56 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Sacajaweau

An interesting flow of CO2 occurs naturally outside of an atmospheric closed loop. Plants absorb it, die, become limestone over eons and then go underground in continental shelf subduction, get absorbed into magma, get realease as magma resurfaces in volcanos. All without SUVs.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:18 AM PST by KC Burke
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Well, at least it’s getting out to where it’s really needed. Too bad it had to be run through a boondoggle first.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:18 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The exact same thing happened to me the last time I ate enchiladas


16 posted on 01/11/2011 11:14:23 AM PST by woofie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Reminds me of Lake Nyos.


17 posted on 01/11/2011 11:15:12 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Army Air Corps
Bottle it and sell it as aerated mineral water (like Perrier).

Now with wholesome fiber (i.e. pond scum).

18 posted on 01/11/2011 11:15:12 AM PST by KarlInOhio (Washington is finally rid of the Kennedies. Free at last, thank God almighty we are free at last.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pop Pop, Fizz Fizz, Oh what a relief it is.


19 posted on 01/11/2011 11:17:14 AM PST by AU72
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
greenhouse gases that were supposed to have been injected permanently underground are leaking out, killing animals . . .

Has PETA issued a statement yet? Didn't think so.

20 posted on 01/11/2011 11:17:48 AM PST by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: N3WBI3
Gee who could have guessed that pumping a gas undergone might eventually lead to it coming out of the ground?

And I thought the US had the monopoly on idiots.

21 posted on 01/11/2011 11:19:42 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: KarlInOhio

That’s not pond scum, that is “a healthy organic nutrient slurry”. :-)


22 posted on 01/11/2011 11:20:58 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I remember seeing that movie back in the 1960s!


23 posted on 01/11/2011 11:22:02 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Does this mean that Canada can have it’s own perrier bottling plant?


24 posted on 01/11/2011 11:24:04 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A century from now people will look back on our entire culture and ask how we could be so silly as to think we had the power to change the weather.

Trying to inject CO2 into the ground is going to be laughed at the way we now laugh at people 150 years ago who hired rain dancers.


25 posted on 01/11/2011 11:26:22 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: KC Burke
Plants absorb it, die, become limestone

Wrong cycle.

26 posted on 01/11/2011 11:28:08 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


27 posted on 01/11/2011 11:29:29 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; GraceG
"The survey also demonstrates that the overlying thick cap rock of anhydrite over the Weyburn reservoir is not an impermeable barrier to the upward movement of light hydrocarbons and CO2 as is generally thought."

So true. Such hard rock is most always fractured with pathways for the gas to escape.

Such seemingly simple solutions are in fact complex, costly, and result in unexpected and unintended consequences. Using CO2 for enhancement of crude oil recovery is beneficial, especially if the alternative is injection of fresh water. It is used down here in the oil patch for just that reason. But injection only for capture and storage will be shown that it is not necessary to do this in the first place.

28 posted on 01/11/2011 11:29:30 AM PST by CedarDave (What is DADT? Obama's response when inquiries are made about his birth certificate.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Paving the Road to Perdition, I see.


29 posted on 01/11/2011 11:29:54 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Army Air Corps; All

Actually I believe soda companies already use some of it that way.


30 posted on 01/11/2011 11:34:43 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is all clearly Bush’s fault.


31 posted on 01/11/2011 11:34:49 AM PST by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One part Rube Goldberg to two parts scam.


32 posted on 01/11/2011 11:36:12 AM PST by marron
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To: Army Air Corps
Who did NOT see this coming?

Those who created the problem.

33 posted on 01/11/2011 11:37:48 AM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty too! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Army Air Corps
That’s not pond scum, that is “a healthy organic nutrient slurry”. :-)

How about "potential biomass source for ethanol or bio-diesel fuels"???? :-)

34 posted on 01/11/2011 11:38:28 AM PST by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: Army Air Corps

Expensive ‘pop’

Oh well, back to the drawing board.


35 posted on 01/11/2011 11:38:31 AM PST by Razzz42
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
several colours of scum

Great name for a band.

36 posted on 01/11/2011 11:38:45 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

You’re absolutely right. I have a degree in Medieval Literature. When people ask me if the medieval world had some crazy ideas I say yes. But those ideas weren’t any crazier than many of the ideas that the modern world has.


37 posted on 01/11/2011 11:39:08 AM PST by Brucifer (Proud member of the Double Secret Reloading Underground.)
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To: Iron Munro
Outstanding !!!

ROFL!

38 posted on 01/11/2011 11:39:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Razzz42

With the right marketing, it could sell. “Sparkling mineral water from our farm to you...”


39 posted on 01/11/2011 11:41:53 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: dead

For that matter, the Carbon-Injected Underground would also be a good band name.


40 posted on 01/11/2011 11:42:35 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Brucifer

...and let’s not forget the state-of the art “scientists” of the day in Medieval times, the alchemists who were widely respected.


41 posted on 01/11/2011 11:42:46 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Back in time machine moment.....

My research and endeavors for food production and sequestration with viable options started about 15 years ago...

About 6 years ago, I had the opportunity to find a few young people that were very much into algae, the reason I brought them together was for the sequestration of SOX POX LOX from the flue gas of coal fired power plants.

The end result being a winner in so many ways to the point we intended to develop this int a feeding process for fish production, the algae having done their job were to be fed to the fish etc, and for fertilizer, and if carbonized, for the leech drains to capture and sequester fertilizer run off in farming areas.

We had many a presentation to the powers that be, and ran into the pumped underground $$ of GE. The told everyone that pumping gas underground was as safe as houses, we, along with a great many of the scientific community, showed this to be a ticking time bomb as gas under pressure will find its way back out to the surface.

Research showed that the gas will “pocket” and those gases that are heavier than air will bubble, then sit on the surface of the land till disbursed by wind movement. Effectively, a floating cloud of suffocation.

Well, suffice to say, GE cannot be wrong, we disbanded, but in the past 4 weeks, I have seen what we understood as a critical event happening, an area of high gas concentration, suffocating an area by total displacement of the normal mix of air in that zone.

You will not see it on the news, you may not hear of it, well not till now, but, given that this is happening, the fish and bird mass deaths, when one of these bubbles surfaces in a populated area, it will make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster look like a Sunday school picnic.

Respects

EL


42 posted on 01/11/2011 11:48:06 AM PST by Eureka_Lead (No political party has ever become a dictatorship when the citizens have firearms)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The Alberta government has committed $2 billion to similar pilot projects in Alberta. The United States has committed $3.4 billion for carbon capture and storage. Norway has been injecting carbon dioxide into the sea floor since 1996. There are carbon capture and storage tests planned in Australia, Germany, Poland, the United Kingdom, China and Japan.

They're trying to pump our atmosphere into the earth - like blowing up a balloon.

What could possibly go wrong?

If it works, in twenty years government experts will declare a global emergency because the atmosphere is shrinking.


43 posted on 01/11/2011 11:48:09 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Carbon sequestration via deepwell injection always struck me a some sort of a scam. It always take additional energy to compress the exhaust from the power plant and inject into the deepwell. Energy wasted. And what is the guarantee that it’s going to stay in the deepwell. This incident clearly shows none at all.
I am not a biofuel proponent, with the exception of algae based biodiesel. If the plant user wants to recycle the exhaust, run it through an algae system and sell the fuel as a byproduct. But then I am suggesting a market solution, and the current regime wants to replace the free market with central control schemes proven to NOT WORK.


44 posted on 01/11/2011 11:52:23 AM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just to sum up:

CO2 being gradually released into the atmosphere where it can be eventually absorbed by the vast oceans = bad idea.

CO2 being concentrated underground by the millions of tons in one location, where if the Volume stays the same, then both the Temp and the Pressure must also increase = good idea.

Perrier must be kicking itself - inject a bunch of CO2 near their springs and it will come right out of the ground all fizzy.

I’m going out to cut down the greenbelt behind my house so I can plant corn. We’ll need every bit of the planet covered in corn if we have a hope of supplying all the ethanol we are going to need.


45 posted on 01/11/2011 11:53:08 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"I would like to see it stopped," Jane Kerr said. "I don't think it's doing what it's supposed to do."

Sure it is...it's providing jobs for otherwise unemployable environmentally aware bureaucrats!

46 posted on 01/11/2011 11:56:45 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

13 million ton of the stuff and it starts looking like a mystic amusement park or sumthin’.oW!! uhh,, I mean OOps,, next experiment? inject it in liberals heads,, they are hugh voids begging for filling.


47 posted on 01/11/2011 12:09:28 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for nudging my memory! I just added Crack in the World to my Netflix Instant Queue! Haven't seen it in decades.
48 posted on 01/11/2011 12:10:01 PM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Meanwhile back in the La bor a tory Dr Frankenstein is busy on his next experiment preparing a real brain for B. Obamma...


49 posted on 01/11/2011 12:21:01 PM PST by tubebender (The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in Eureka...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Then there were the explosions.

CO2 does not go boom.

50 posted on 01/11/2011 12:22:41 PM PST by SouthTexas (Is it time for tea yet?)
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