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If You Thought The Second Amendment...
The Market Ticker ^ | 1/11/11 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 01/11/2011 4:23:11 PM PST by FromLori

was under fire, wait until you see what they have in mind for The First!

Rep. Brady (D – PA) has promised to introduce new legislation to criminalize any political speech which could be perceived as incendiary, and other Democrats suggested that there should be a blanket ban on all speech and symbols which might be conceivably interpreted as incendiary against members of Congress.

Of course the Courts are unlikely to agree with this, considering that The First Amendment, when it involves political speech, is pretty much a blank check and always has been - with good reason.

So that which they cannot get with the law, they instead turn to violating the Constitution by other means!

Rep. Louise Slaughter (D – NY) insisted that the FCC should work hard to restrict political speech that “could incite people,” adding that “no one owns the airwaves” and that she clearly felt the FCC was not doing enough to regulate political commentary nor to sanction those whose criticism were unacceptable to her.

By the way, if you're wondering how freedom dies.... you're seeing it.

Why is it now that we're seeing this sort of reaction, and why is it that we have Congressfolk trying to introduce what amount to a bill granting Titles of Nobility, which are, I remind you, explicitly barred under The Constitution?

If it's illegal to make a death threat against The President (it is), or a sitting Congressperson (it is), or a Judge (it is), then it should be equally unlawful and result in the same prosecution if someone makes the same threat aimed toward you or I.

Oh yeah, we had that too. The Tucson shooter allegedly made several death threats - against the Pima College administration, against talk show hosts in the area, and against bloggers.

All of which The Sheriff of Pima County refused to refer to the DA and file charges to prosecute.

Finally, for their part The Left never, ever posts in a public place a picture of, say, Ms. Palin about to blow her own brains out and proclaims "I hate it when I wake up and Sarah Palin is still alive", right?

Oops - I guess I was wrong about that one...

http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-hate-it-when-I-wake-up-and-Sarah-Palin-is-still-alive/129929197021040


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: denninger; firstamendment; government; reichstagfire; speech; ticker

1 posted on 01/11/2011 4:23:17 PM PST by FromLori
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To: FromLori

Perceived by WHOM?? Thought Police waiting in the wings...


2 posted on 01/11/2011 4:24:25 PM PST by cld51860
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To: FromLori

It’s almost like they were,,,,,,*ready* for this.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 4:25:43 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: FromLori

If these bastards get away with severely restricting the 1st & 2nd Amendments you can put a fork in us, were done as a free nation.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 4:25:43 PM PST by 23 Everest (A gun in hand is better than a cop on the phone.)
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To: FromLori
I am "offended" by "Reparations", Set-Asides, Minority Hiring Requirements in Contracting, Mafia-style Unions of public sector employees, welfare, tax refunds to non-taxpayers, lack of enforcement of existing illegal border-crossing laws, anchor babies, abortion, quid pro quo donor paybacks via legislation, lack of prosecution of black crimes, plea bargaining, Jury Selection Consultants, Class Action Lawsuits, mega-millions settlements of common sense screwups, etc., etc.

I guess the populace will not be allowed to talk at all in public.

We ALREADY have taken away the Freedom of Association, and Freedom of Speech where contorted interpretation by certain Protected Classes need only object and have the ACLU attack on "harassment" or "offensive" grounds.

Beam me up, Scotty.....

5 posted on 01/11/2011 4:29:25 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: FromLori
Any excuse will serve a tyrant!
-Aesop-

6 posted on 01/11/2011 4:32:15 PM PST by Savage Beast (In a free society we’re going to be subject to people like this. I prefer this to the alternative.J)
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To: DesertRhino
It’s almost like they were,,,,,,*ready* for this.

I truly believe they thought we would have "started" something long before this....not that they haven't been trying to get under our skins, but they "misunderestimated" our strength of character. Easy to do, as they have none of their own for comparison.

That is why this coordinated "attack" on the right came so swiftly and consistently - it was all planned out for them to use when them moment came. Only the moment didn't come quite as they planned, but they were soooooo ready they just couldn't help themselves.

7 posted on 01/11/2011 4:33:07 PM PST by Mygirlsmom (Giving back a little of what has been given to me: Proud monthly sponsor of FR.)
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To: FromLori

Will Americans still be allowed to shop at Target once this buffoon, Brady, gets done with his goofyass law?


8 posted on 01/11/2011 4:33:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: 23 Everest
If these bastards get away with severely restricting the 1st & 2nd Amendments you can put a fork in us, were done as a free nation.

We already are "no longer a free nation."

Consider this:
In 2005, the Supreme Court ruled in the Kelo v. New London case that the city's use of eminent domain was indeed both justified and valid. They did this despite the 5th Amendment's statement that eminent domain be "for public use" and the City had used eminent domain to seize the property to be turned over to a private developer. The 'public use' justification they made was that the "public use" clause was satisfied by projected increases in tax revenue. Note also that there was, to my knowledge, no outstanding property-tax debt on the property.

Consider that and then you should realize that no private property, under this USSC ruling, is safe from government seizure so long as it can give any excuse about "public use" no matter how flimsy. {Something like taking everyone's cars and guns so the iron can be used in rails would be a more valid "public use" than what they did in Kelo!}

9 posted on 01/11/2011 4:39:56 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: FromLori
Rep. Brady (D – PA) has promised to introduce new legislation to criminalize any political speech by carnival flame-eaters which could be perceived as incendiary,

and other Democrats suggested that there should be a pigs-in-a blanket ban on all Carny speech and carnival symbols which might be conceivably interpreted as incendiary against porked members of Congress.

10 posted on 01/11/2011 4:42:03 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: FromLori
All I can say is that if one piece of this crap makes it through the Republican controlled house, every Republican that votes for it should be thrown out in the 2012 primary. However, maybe I'm naive, but I can't see 30 Republicans flipping to support gun control or speech control, heck there are probably at least a dozen democrats in conservative districts that wouldn't support it either meaning at least 40 republicans would have to support it for it to stand a chance. Like Rush Limbaugh said today, the media will drop the story like a hot potato in less than a week when they realize there is no public outcry for any of this garbage.
11 posted on 01/11/2011 4:51:00 PM PST by apillar
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To: FromLori

Its going to be interesting to see how this complies with the new house rule to provide constitutional authority to a bill that curtails speech or the free exercise thereof.


12 posted on 01/11/2011 4:54:34 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: FromLori

So saying that “The Second Amendment is what guarantees the First” could get you 20 to life or something?


13 posted on 01/11/2011 4:56:54 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: 23 Everest

“....were done as a free nation.”

Not gonna’ happen.

If the 1rst & 2nd are somehow abolished or severly restricted you will see an uprising of angry citizens never before witnessed in history.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 4:58:56 PM PST by panaxanax (IMPEACH THE MUSLIM MARXIST....NOW!!!)
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To: FromLori

The lunatics are showing themselves.

Voters take note of the stupid reactions of the tards in Congress who are showing themselves.

Remember them. Vote against them.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 4:59:43 PM PST by Venturer
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To: 23 Everest

They won’t get away with it.


16 posted on 01/11/2011 5:08:20 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: FromLori

,” adding that “no one owns the airwaves”

Yeah and nobody owns the definition of ‘incite’ or of ‘dangerous’. But you’d like to own them, wouldn’t you you evil, corrupt filth?


17 posted on 01/11/2011 5:09:47 PM PST by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: FromLori

What is suggested in the media by the Left is essentially that disagreement is now a capital offense, punishable by removing your ability to express your disagreement by force of arms, under color of law.


18 posted on 01/11/2011 5:50:05 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots

Please note that in saying “by force of arms,” I refer to the force that might be used by law enforcement/law. I may not have expressed that concept well enough.


19 posted on 01/11/2011 5:54:50 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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