Skip to comments.Both Sides Get Ready for Legal Brawl over Denying Citizenship to Babies of Undocumented
Posted on 01/11/2011 5:55:17 PM PST by pissant
As lawmakers in several states push for an end to automatic citizenship to U.S.-born babies of illegal immigrants, a Hispanic organization that has won landmark civil rights cases says it will sue any state that passes such a law.
LatinoJustice PRLDEF says that plans by legislators of several states to push for a law that would stop the tradition of birthright citizenship for those babies goes against the 14th Amendment.
Those pushing for a law to end automatic U.S. citizenship to those babies say they are not intimated by the threat of a lawsuit in fact, they say, they want a court battle. They say a court fight will offer them the best chance to show that the 14th amendment was not meant to be applied to babies of people who are in the United States illegally.
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Steve King is da Man!
we should advance parallel options:
I think the easiest and best option is to pass a law denying illegal immigrant ever getting green card or citizenship, in any circumstance. In other words, if you ever entered the country illegally, you can’t get green card or citizenship, e.g. via (fake) marriage or anchorbaby sponsoring you.
This would make illegal immigration less desirable and it would apply immediately.
I'm guessing Soros funded.
“Birthright citizenship” did not start until the INS decided in the early 1980’s that it was not cost effective to deport children of illegals. This is a policy, has nothing to do with the 14th amendment. At that time only a few thousand children of illegals were born here, it was not considered a major issue. When Mexicans realized that there children could claim “citizenship” the flood began!!!This does not require a constitutional amendment , only a policy change.
The current immigration laws denies citizenship to anyone that enters this country illegally. The law is never enforced, as most immigration laws.
states attempts at dunham...
Every anchor baby is immediately eligible for all manner of welfare and public assistance and while their illegal parents are not, they do collect the anchor baby's benefits for them. So let's pass a law that no public benefit will be paid to anybody who is not legal, even on behalf of their anchor baby.
I think this is a great idea...it would clearly define the consequences of being here illegally. I would also add to it by making it a felony to apply for any type of public assistance, to voting in any election, etc. while here illegally.
i don’t think the law actually says anything about it.
We could pass a law and explicitly bar anybody ever being illegal immigrant (i.e. entered the country illegally) getting green card or citizenship.
This would be relatively easy to verify (must have record of entering the country etc).
“Legal Brawl”...them there are fighten words.
First we need to STOP paying for their PRENATAL care.
Common sense in an immigration thread. Amazing.
Punish those who break the law, not the innocent.
Vitriolic, even, according to sherriff Barney Fife...
How ‘bout stop paying for these benefits altogether?
“I think the easiest and best option is to pass a law denying illegal immigrant ever getting green card or citizenship, in any circumstance. In other words, if you ever entered the country illegally, you cant get green card or citizenship, e.g. via (fake) marriage or anchorbaby sponsoring you.
This would make illegal immigration less desirable and it would apply immediately.”
I agree with you insofar as such a law should be passed — that is to say, those who enter illegally must forever be denied American citizenship.
But although it’s a good suggestion (and an idea I myself have embraced for some time), it WILL NOT solve “the illegal immigration problem” by itself unless the CHILDREN of illegals can be denied citizenship as well.
We must realize that it really makes little difference if 20 million illegals become citizens or remain illegal for the rest of their lives. The reason is that illegals will “auto-legalize” within 20 years — not “of themselves”, but through their progeny.
And this legacy will produce an ever-increasing cohort of “ersatz citizens” who may be “Americans by birth” but who have no real connection to the traditional America of Euro heritage.
It will change the “cultural color of America” regardless of whether or not their parents ever attain citizenship. Illegal or not, citizens or not, it really isn’t going to make any difference. The offspring will still be here.
Some interesting statistics from California:
There are now nearly twice as many Hispanics as whites in California public schools: 3.1 million [Hispanic] vs. 1.7 million [white]. And there are more Asians (527,000) than there are blacks (425,000) (info from article in the San Francisco Chronicle of 11/13/10.)
What do these numbers portend for the future?
“What do these numbers portend for the future?”
That depends on whether they want to build a better America,
or turn California into their country of origin.
>>We must realize that it really makes little difference if 20 million illegals become citizens or remain illegal for the rest of their lives. The reason is that illegals will auto-legalize within 20 years not of themselves, but through their progeny.
And this legacy will produce an ever-increasing cohort of ersatz citizens who may be Americans by birth but who have no real connection to the traditional America of Euro heritage.<<
The “Americans by birth” mantra hasn’t been viable since the last child born to former slaves.
This clarification of the 14th Amendment needs to be handled very soon by the SCOTUS. If another liberal progressive Justice is permitted to be appointed under the Dems, there will be no way to stem the flow of illegals and reduce the costs to US taxpayers.
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