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Congress readies new gun-control bills after Gabrielle Giffords shooting
Christian Science Monitor ^ | January 11, 2011 | Linda Feldmann

Posted on 01/11/2011 6:28:22 PM PST by Pinkbell

Congressional advocates of gun control are preparing legislation to renew a ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines of the sort suspected used in last Saturday’s shooting rampage in Tucson, Ariz.

Such a ban was in effect between 1994 and 2004 as part of a ban on assault weapons, which also expired. Since then, clips such as those allegedly used by suspect Jared Loughner, which contained more than 30 rounds, have been available for purchase without restriction. Legislation restricting ammunition magazines to a maximum 10 rounds is in the works by Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D) of New York and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D) of New Jersey.

The tragedy in Tucson might not have resulted in so many deaths and injuries if the gunman had been limited to 10 rounds before attempting to reload, gun control advocates say. In all, six people died and 14 were wounded 14, including Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D) of Arizona.

Congresswoman McCarthy, who ran for Congress after her husband was killed and son injured in a 1993 shooting on the Long Island Rail Road, suggests she is focusing on ammunition magazines as opposed to the weapons themselves in a bow to political reality.

“I have to look at ... what can actually pass in Congress and have it signed by the president,” McCarthy said Tuesday in an interview with National Public Radio. “The House and the Senate are pro-gun houses.”

Many Democrats in both Houses of Congress – including Congresswoman Giffords – favor broad gun rights, and so passing legislation that limits the size of ammunition clips could be an uphill climb. But the history of gun control legislation is that it has its best chance after a major firearms-related event.

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: giffords; guncontrol; guns
Another member of Congress, Rep. Peter King (R) of New York, announced Tuesday that he plans to introduce legislation making it illegal to carry a firearm within 1,000 feet of certain government officials, such as lawmakers. Congressman King is chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee and cochair of the Congressional Task Force on Illegal Guns.
1 posted on 01/11/2011 6:28:27 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell

I think the libs may be overplaying their hand. Let them hang themselves.


2 posted on 01/11/2011 6:31:13 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Pinkbell

It won’t happen Carolyn, just save yourself the trouble and embarrasment and quit.


3 posted on 01/11/2011 6:31:38 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Pinkbell

Reactionaries.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 6:33:46 PM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: Pinkbell
And had the homosexual nutcase Loughner driven through the crowd in a Prius, would these same Commie Leftists be calling for a ban on hybrids? I think not.

Neither the First Amendment nor the Second are to blame for the shooting. One lone nutcase and apparently an incompetent county sheriff are.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

5 posted on 01/11/2011 6:34:05 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Pinkbell
Since then, clips such as those allegedly used by suspect Jared Loughner, which contained more than 30 rounds, have been available for purchase without restriction.

To all GFW's - It is not a clip.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 6:34:43 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: DarthVader

Like this punk shooter, let’s not take their threats lightly.


7 posted on 01/11/2011 6:34:43 PM PST by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: Pinkbell
According to Eric Holder's DOJ crime statistics, guns are used by law-abiding citizens 2.5 million times each year to prevent violent crimes like murder, rape, carjackings and robberies, without a shot being fired 99% of the time.
8 posted on 01/11/2011 6:35:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: Pinkbell

Congress Shall Make NO LAW!


9 posted on 01/11/2011 6:35:03 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: Pinkbell

Never let a good crisis go to waste. Exploit! Exploit! Exploit!


10 posted on 01/11/2011 6:35:38 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: Brilliant

McCarthy’s bill is at least more rational than King’s.

Maybe we should instead make it a felony for any lawmaker to come within 1000 feet of an armed citizen. Then let Congress trash like King dance to stay out of our way!


11 posted on 01/11/2011 6:35:59 PM PST by devere
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To: Pinkbell
He can introduce his Chia pet, but it will not go anyplace in the house same as his Bill!
12 posted on 01/11/2011 6:36:12 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Pinkbell
Rep. Peter King (R) of New York, announced Tuesday that he plans to introduce legislation making it illegal to carry a firearm within 1,000 feet of certain government officials

That's only 334 yards.

Lotsa guys can do that.

13 posted on 01/11/2011 6:36:35 PM PST by Jim Noble (Third Bank of the United States: Ever wonder why they didn't call it that?)
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To: DarthVader

it could happen. thee are enough spineless republicand that wet themselves everytimr the regieme controlled media calls them a bad word.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 6:36:39 PM PST by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Pinkbell

Yet more gun control laws! All of the thousands of gun laws on the books have yet to remove a gun from a nut job or criminal.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 6:37:41 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: Pinkbell
The tragedy in Tucson requires a ridiculous and futile response from Congress. If someone of Near Eastern extraction were the gunman nothing would be done.
16 posted on 01/11/2011 6:38:15 PM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Pinkbell

Hopefully the republicans are not dumb enough to go along with this bill. It is staight out of the soviet union, germany in the 1930s, cuber in the 1950s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and into the 2000s and N korea today, including the muslim countries. They claim guns, pistols kill...no need for human interaction with the weapons.


17 posted on 01/11/2011 6:40:42 PM PST by tillacum (The American military keeps us free, not the politicians or media. Praise Be for them.)
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To: Pinkbell

Whatever they try to pass MUST NOT HAVE ANY EXEMPTIONS!!!!

No LE exemptions, no Government exemptions, no military exemptions! Call your Congressmen and Senators and DEMAND this if they insist on passing something. Let them know we will NOT tolorate exemptions for themselves in a restrictive law!


18 posted on 01/11/2011 6:41:01 PM PST by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: GeronL
Reactionaries.

Exactly.

Smart businessmen, investors etc, are proactive. Our government is constantly reactive.

Perp's violent threats were made known to law enforcement, nothing was done, he went off, and now it's "those evil high-capacity magazines' fault."

19 posted on 01/11/2011 6:42:06 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Pinkbell
The 20,000 gun laws already on the books could NOT prevent this....one more will NOT help...you idiots....yeah, I called them IDIOTS!
20 posted on 01/11/2011 6:43:45 PM PST by goodnesswins (You deciding how to spend your health care $, thatÂ’s freedom. Govt deciding, thats a death panel)
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To: Pinkbell

“Many Democrats in both Houses of Congress – including Congresswoman Giffords – favor broad gun rights ... “

Horse-droppings. Gifford is on the record as being in favor of banning semi-automatic firearms. Incidentally, by definition semi-automatic long arms aren’t “assault rifles.”

“clips” The M-1 Garand used clips but most handguns and semi-auto rifles and carbines use magazines. As usual, where firearms are concerned they have no idea what they’re talking about and don’t understand the terms or even their positions.


21 posted on 01/11/2011 6:45:24 PM PST by tumblindice (God looks after children, drunks and Democrats)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

True. They are certainly using this crisis for benefit by using it to paint conservatives as radicals who lead to the tragedy, more gun regulation, and fundraising


22 posted on 01/11/2011 6:45:39 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell
But the history of gun control legislation is that it has its best chance after a major firearms-related event.

And so, Speaker of the House John Boehner will simply refuse to let such a bill come to the floor, right?
Right?

23 posted on 01/11/2011 6:46:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: devere

LOL! That is a very good idea. I like the way you think.


24 posted on 01/11/2011 6:52:56 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: devere

“Maybe we should instead make it a felony for any lawmaker to come within 1000 feet of an armed citizen.”

And thinking this thru... At least that would not be unconstitutional.


25 posted on 01/11/2011 6:57:07 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Jim Noble

Mr. King didn’t really think things through did he?

LOL!


26 posted on 01/11/2011 6:59:32 PM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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I have a sensible solution that should make everybody happy. Congress should make a law that makes it illegal to shoot people


27 posted on 01/11/2011 7:01:23 PM PST by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ...In the US the number is 54%)
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To: bravo whiskey

I don’t think so:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2655332/posts

This cast of character’s act is wearing thin and the support is not there. Concentrate on the economy, repeal Obamacare and kick the Bozo out of office is what we want. This shooting does not move me at all. Sheriff Dimwit did not do his job and that greatly needs to be emphasized.


28 posted on 01/11/2011 7:01:23 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Iron Munro
What model is the car? My hubby likes the 1969 Camaro.
29 posted on 01/11/2011 7:01:50 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Pinkbell
The concept of banning hi cap mags is ludicrous.

I've trained with the same instructors who teach at Sig here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVNypPUGto&feature=related

BTW, Max is an IDPA and IPSC competition shooter.

30 posted on 01/11/2011 7:03:19 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Iron Munro
Yup. And those same jerks should get a clue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXVNypPUGto&feature=related

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31 posted on 01/11/2011 7:06:41 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: Pinkbell

“But the history of gun control legislation is that it has its best chance after a major firearms-related event.”


32 posted on 01/11/2011 7:08:41 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: Pinkbell
The Repubs are letting (in some cases helping) the Dems to change the subject.

They need to get on with business.

vaudine

33 posted on 01/11/2011 7:20:11 PM PST by vaudine
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To: tumblindice
“clips” The M-1 Garand used clips but most handguns and semi-auto rifles and carbines use magazines. As usual, where firearms are concerned they have no idea what they’re talking about and don’t understand the terms or even their positions.

True. There are many here who haven't a clue either, despite the suggestions to get a clue. Look at what the government is doing to us. Our freedom is being taken from us slowly and incrementally.

34 posted on 01/11/2011 7:21:09 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: vaudine

Really, we sent them there to repeal Obamacare, not this!!


35 posted on 01/11/2011 7:26:26 PM PST by Sybeck1 (Memo to Mitt Romney: Just go away.............)
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To: Pinkbell
This has a real chance of passing the House since I'm sure they will name it “Gifford's Law”.

The repubs will cave with a sympathy vote. Oh, and they will stuff this bill with other gun, magazine, and ammo bans as well.

Buy what you can now!

36 posted on 01/11/2011 7:30:35 PM PST by CapnJack
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To: Jim Noble
That's only 334 yards.

Lotsa guys can do that.

And I'm guessing those that can't will simply disregard this law during their murderous rampage.

37 posted on 01/11/2011 7:34:38 PM PST by Gena Bukin
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To: Pinkbell

This is insane. In the Pelosi run Congress only bills she approved would be introduced.


38 posted on 01/11/2011 7:35:17 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Iron Munro
I'm with you man.
I don't know why, but it drives me absolutely batty when someone calls it a "clip".
39 posted on 01/11/2011 7:55:14 PM PST by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: Cobra64

The tyrantcrats and moderate Republicrats will try to run the same `Statue of Disliberty’ play they ran in `68, using this tragedy as a pretext.
http://www.libraryindex.com/pages/1734/Firearm-Laws-Regulations-Ordinances-GUN-CONTROL-ACT-1968.html

Conservatives and libertarians won’t stand for it this time. The internet has made us too organized for a similar infringement on the 2nd Amendment.

First, it’s only `Saturday Night Specials’, then it’s all semi-auto handguns, then `non-hunting long-arms’, then shotguns ... next thing you know, we’re England trying to hang on to our Daisy airguns.

Them and Us
They should understand that when we say we intend to keep our arms to protect our liberty, well, that’s what the framers meant and exactly what we mean—by force of arms, if necessary, and we aren’t talking about protecting ourselves from foreign terrorists but domestic terrorists, AKA as American “gun grabbers”.
We are no more radical than the Founding Fathers; any American, of any political stripe, who wants to take away our liberty is a pre-revolutionary tyrant.


40 posted on 01/11/2011 8:05:48 PM PST by tumblindice (Any time you feel up to it, come and get them)
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To: Pinkbell

Liberals just have these bills sitting around waiting for this sh1t to happen. They are such exploiters. Such hypocrites.


41 posted on 01/11/2011 8:36:47 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: DarthVader

I doubt if she will get any co-sponsors. If Legislators know how to do anything well its put their finger in the wind to see which way its blowing. Right now the American Public is not in the mood for gun control.


42 posted on 01/11/2011 9:06:16 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

The Speaker of the House gets it and all gun-control bills are DOA:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2655432/posts?page=4#4


43 posted on 01/11/2011 9:11:14 PM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: FunkyZero
it drives me absolutely batty when someone calls it a "clip".

The only new gun law that makes sense is one for those who don't know the difference between a clip and a magazine.

They should be prevented from offering advice on guns, talking about guns or writting articles about guns under penalty of fines and imprisonment.


44 posted on 01/12/2011 12:10:54 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Pinkbell; FunkyZero
Here is a link to an oldie but a goody about journalists who don't know the difference between a bullet and a cccartridge.

Shooty - No Shooty


45 posted on 01/12/2011 12:30:01 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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