Skip to comments.Speaker Boehner says no to new restrictions on firearms
Posted on 01/11/2011 9:04:15 PM PST by Second Amendment First
Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is rejecting gun-control legislation offered by the chairman of the Homeland Security Committee in response to the weekend shootings of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) and 19 others in Arizona.
Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.) announced plans Tuesday to introduce legislation prohibiting people from carrying guns within 1,000 feet of members of Congress.
King, who has previously called for the removal of illegal guns from the streets, made the announcement alongside New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, one of the nations loudest voices for stricter gun laws.
King said the legislation is not intended only for the safety of government officials but also to protect the public. He said elected officials are not necessarily more important than constituents, but by protecting them in this way, they would feel safer in meeting federal officials at public events.
The fact is they do represent the people who elect them, and its essential, if were going to continue to have contact, that the public who are at these meetings are ensured of their own safety, King said.
Kings legislation got the cold shoulder from Boehner and other Republicans after it was announced.
Boehner spokesman Michael Steel said the Speaker would not support Kings legislation.
The office of Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said the majority leader is reserving judgment until the King bill is finalized.
Mr. Cantor believes its appropriate to adequately review and actually read legislation before forming an opinion about it, Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring stated in an e-mail.
The immediate rejection of Kings legislation by Boehner illustrates the difficulty gun-control advocates will face in moving forward with any legislation.
Even Capitol Hills most ardent gun reformers dont anticipate any changes to the nations gun laws will be forthcoming in the 112th Congress. They say the combination of a GOP-led House and the powerful gun lobby is simply too formidable to take on over an issue thats become a proverbial third rail of Washington politics.
Anything you can get through the gun lobby is going to have little consequence, Rep. Jim Moran (D-Va.), a longtime supporter of tightening Second Amendment restrictions, said in a phone interview. I dont see the likelihood of much progress I dont see much hope.
Aside from Kings proposal, longtime gun-control advocates Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) are working on legislation to prohibit high-capacity ammunition magazines like those allegedly used by Jared Lee Loughner, the 22-year-old college dropout whos been charged in the Arizona rampage.
Meanwhile, some lawmakers say the public debate about whether incendiary punditry helped ignite the Arizona rampage has overshadowed the more important role that mental health played in the deadly shooting.
Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) said the sometimes violence-laced remarks from Glenn Beck, Bill OReilly and other political commentators should be toned down, but were likely not the impetus for the shooting spree.
Whether you blame them or any of those things on what happened, I dont think is the issue, Brown said Tuesday on MSNBCs Morning Joe.
Rather, the reportedly erratic behavior of Loughner should have raised red flags about his mental health, Brown said flags that might have led to treatments that could have prevented the tragic shootings.
The mental health issues here havent been talked about much. We dont really have much of a mental health safety net in this country. You know, theres almost nobody watching today, Brown said.
Although Loughners behavior reportedly set off enough alarms that he was expelled from community college and denied entrance into the military, he had no problems buying a hand gun from a local sporting goods store in November .
This young man should have been [red-flagged] when he was thrown out of that community college, Brown said. The mental health safety nets pretty shredded in Arizona, as it is nationally.
Kings proposal perplexed some members of Congress, who wondered how it would be implemented because members are so mobile and often encounter individuals without knowledge that a congressional event is taking place.
I think my concern would be, how do you put a 1,000-foot bubble around a member of Congress and what are you going to do about judges and Cabinet secretaries? asked Rep. Jack Kingston (R-Ga.). If you get past the logistics of it, it would seem to have a ripple effect throughout the upper echelons of appointed and elected officials.
A spokesman for the National Rifle Association, Andrew Arulanandam, said this week that it would be inappropriate for the group to comment on potential reforms so soon after the tragedy.
“Like any manager, expect Cantor to be respectful of his troops in public — especially when discussing their actions with the press.”
Indeed, I hope that’s the case, because I’ve been having a lot of doubts about Cantor lately.
First, it's 1,000 feet for members of Congress. Next it will be 1,000 feet from any elected member of any level of government. When that happens, there will not be anyone who could possibly own (or possess) any gun in any manner that would not be illegal since it would be impossible to be in any area that is not 1,000 feet from some type of elected official, from the federal level down to the local level.
What a great plan to circumvent the 2nd Amendment!
"A spokesman for the National Rifle Association, Andrew Arulanandam, said this week that it would be inappropriate for the group to comment on potential reforms so soon after the tragedy."
It would be "inappropriate" would it???????? Just when would it be appropriate?
The NRA has become gutless and during my long lifetime I supported the organization with vigor. Now it has become politically correct and walks on "political eggshells" and is afraid to offending it's adversaries.
Not the right time my butt...it is exactly the right time for them to speak out loudly and often for we are engaged in a total war with those who wish to disarm us in order to make us slaves to the government. If the NRA does not have the stomach to fight it, then it's time to find (or organize) a movement that will.
Why dont we have a rule that politicians have to stay 1000 feet away from our money?
The loons are only making themselves look stupid and opportunisitc making allegations and pushing new laws before the dead are in the ground. Even some of my liberal friends can see this and they are becoming quite vocal against their own side about this stupidity.
If this prohibition includes the Secret Service as well, I'm all for it.
I hope The Human Tear duct can keep a tight reign on the RINO’s in the House.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
End of story.
King is on the Homeland Security Committee. This kind of stupidity might explain why we are all being ritually sexually molested at our airports now.
All the Republicans (and Lieberman) who have been involved in creating extreme “safety” measures and expanding the meaning of terrorism from Islamic terrorists to politically determined “domestic terrorists”, need to be removed from anything to do with fighting terrorism at this point.
They have carelessly betrayed the American people and the constitution with their stupidity - political correctness. King is still advancing that ball of molestating the Bill of Rights in the name of “safety” even after the election.
The tragedy in Tucson does not require a ridiculous and futile response from Congress.
I’m with you -
this wasn’t so much about guns as it was about asserting the “specialness” of the elite ruling class.
Anything you do to give the goverment the power to declare people mentally ill and institutionalize them will soon look like the Soviet “mental health” institutions.
Liberal “experts” are claiming that political incorrectness is insanity and you just witnessed them claim that opposition speech against them is violent and insane. They would have no problem sending you to a mental hospital to be re-educated or lobitmized.
Look what they are doing with the Patriot Act power at the airports now - nude scanning and randomly sexually molesting innocent American men, women and children. This insane abuse comes in the name of non-racism. They are building an unconstitutional KGB citizen spy organization through the power of the Patriot Act.
Our government is not trustworthy with any power over us since we no longer have the constitution being upheld in the courts. We need to restrict the power given to the government to fight terrorism so it is no longer turned against anyone outside Islamic terrorism.
Would hoping someone kicks King in the nuts
be a “call for violence”?
That's because the end-all, be-all goal of liberalism is to make the liberal feel good about themselves, even superior.
Examining any policy beyond the point where a liberal feels good about himself for supporting it is pointless to the liberal espousing the support.
A (R) with at least one testicle?? How was this allowed to happen?
Not only that, but you introduce the Who's-the-top-dog issue here. If Congresspersons aren't supposed to be within 1000 feet of legally owned handguns, it seems to me that most of the logistical burden of making that happen should fall upon the Congressmen, and not their employers. They're the ones that benefit, plus they supposedly work for the rest of us. Why should millions of us be inconvenienced rather than them?
My problems with Cantor go beyond this act of diplomacy on a bill which is so fundamentally flawed it can’t be written in such a manner as to make sense.
His 2009 effort to remake the GOP with his now failed National Council for a New America indicates a great deal about him by looking at those he invited to work with him including Jeb Bush, Romney and Gingrich. Rush rightly branded the whole thing as a scam. Also, his willingness on national TV to throw Rich Lott under the bus when he put on a Nazi uniform for a role he played in the historical reenactment society he was a part of. Lott had played many different roles and putting on this uniform said nothing about his ideology. It’s too bad Cantor wasn’t as sensitive towards Lott as he appears to be with King.
I’ve got a strong suspicion that Cantor is the old breed of Republican who is more a politician than a principled conservative.
The jaded hard-hearted leftists loathe and mock the decency they are void of. They feel nothing but hate, jealousy and rage. They will never understand the tears of the righteous. Jesus wept.
Yippee for Boehner....he and others knew this would be the first thing that was talked about...he sat on that fast. ;o)
His words that they don't ever want to see the people who elected them.
>>(Were about to find out just how conservative the new Congress is.)<<
They have already showed us that with their Committee appointments.
Please state any actions the new committees have made that you are not happy with. Thank you.
Any such legislation should work in the other direction. Representatives should not be allowed within 1000’ of a firearm. Or at least any that would vote for the nonsense King is proposing.
Since Boehner had already declared he would not support it (before it is even written), should we consider this a shot from Cantor? (Can we say shot in this context anymore?)
There was another one that really got to me too but I can't recall it right now.
“The office of Rep. Eric Cantor (R-Va.) said the majority leader is reserving judgment until the King bill is finalized.
Mr. Cantor believes its appropriate to adequately review and actually read legislation before forming an opinion about it, Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring stated in an e-mail.”
Just scratched off Cantor from my list of possible Presidential candidates.
King’s proposal makes as much sense as passing a law requiring any potential assassin to send the target of their assassination attempt a letter of warning at least onw week in advance.
That would have as much effect on a nut like the shooter in ths case as would King’s idiotic proposal - and I don’t need to read to know its rubbish - and should Cantor.
King is no friend of the Second Amendment and has been involved in other nitwit anti-gun legislation attempts and successes.
His company of Mayor Bloomberg with him at the time of announcing this idiotic proposal says a great deal about where he is “coming from”.
Rep. Harold “Hal” Rogers vowed to enforce the GOP pledge to stopped earmarks and drastically slash governement spending. You have a problem with that?
Rep. Hal’s press release. You have a problem with Hal?
Incoming House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers today announced that the annual operating budget for the House Appropriations Committee will take a 9% cut from last years levels. The cut is part of a proposal by Republican leadership in the House to trim the overall budgets of all Members of Congress, committees, and leadership offices. While the average cut will be 5% across these offices, Rogers directed his Committee to take the much larger 9% cut, emphasizing his commitment to significantly reducing government spending.
Congress must begin immediately to reduce spending, and these budget cuts should start here and now in our own offices. To demonstrate my strong commitment to slashing spending, reducing our national deficit, and getting our economy on track, I have directed my own Committee budget to be cut by nearly double the amount of reductions proposed for other House offices. This year, the Appropriations Committee will be ground zero for a wide range of reductions across the federal government, and by cutting our own budget first, we are showing were willing to lead by example, Rogers said.
The proposed legislation for the House budget cuts will save taxpayers an estimated $35 million in the first year alone.
Washington, DC, Dec 8, 2010 - I am honored by the Republican Conferences decision to elect me as their Chairman of the Appropriations Committee. It is truly humbling to receive the confidence of my colleagues and I am ready to get to work so that together we can move our country forward. We are facing unprecedented times and the American people are giving us a unique opportunity to start reining in government and getting our economy back on track. My Republican colleagues and I are listening and we will fight to rein in spending, implement rigorous oversight and work together to change the culture on Capitol Hill. There is no room for failure, our nations security depends on us getting this right and finding a new way forward.
Washington, Oct 18, 2010 - Last month, U.S. Congressman Hal Rogers (KY-05) and his Republican colleagues released A Pledge to America and put forward a plan to repeal the misguided health care bill and enact real health care reform that addresses the rising cost of health insurance and opens up access for all Americans.
Our country provides the best medical care in the world - yet many Americans struggle to get the care they need because of the astronomical costs, said Rogers. That is why I support real health care reform that opens up access for all Americans, lowers the cost of health care and health insurance, and enables small businesses to purchase health insurance for their employees. The monstrosity of a health care bill that passed earlier in the year does nothing to lower costs and only imposes more red tape on our small businesses. Furthermore, this bill raises taxes on hard-working Americans and will sink us further into debt. Its time to repeal the bill and get serious about true health care reform.
In A Pledge to America, Republicans call for a repeal of the recently passed health care bill and instead replace it with real reform. The plan would enact medical liability reform which will lower costs by reining in junk lawsuits and stop defensive medicine. The plan also would allow Americans to purchase health insurance across State lines so that families have more choices. Republicans would also expand health savings accounts, strengthen the doctor-patient relationship, ensure access for patients with pre-existing conditions and permanently prohibit taxpayer funding of abortion.
Rogers has served Kentuckys 5th Congressional District since 1981. With a focus on economic development, job creation, fighting illegal drugs and preserving Appalachias natural treasures, he has a reputation for listening to his constituents and fighting for the region he represents. For more information visit www.halrogers.house.gov.
You are aware that you are talking about the “Prince of Pork”, a well deserved nickname for being the top porker in Congress.
Do you recall all the promises Zero made to the Left? We are seeing another politician making his empty promises to the Right.
Let’s see what he’s actually done in a year.
I am ok with that. However, you have bashed him without presenting ANYTHING that he has done this year.
I judged people by their history not their promises. You’re talking like the sob went from black to white overnight. He loves to piss away our money and I don’t like that in a politician.
John Boehner seems to be doing a good job protecting the 2nd Amendment!
Rep. Hal went beyond the GOP vow to cut house spending by 5% and reduced his appropriation committee funding by 9%, He appointed Rep. Aderholt chairman of the homeland security subcommittee. He has voted AYE to all GOP HR's.
You mean like his appointment of Jeff Flake (R-Ariz) and other GOP freshmen to the Appropriations Committee? Normally freshmen don't get on this one.
How did he get that name? Seems like the libs put it on him to deflect attention from the conservatives labeling Murtha as the Prince of Pork?
I will grant that Hal has brought $$ to Kentucky but can you cite examples where he has 'pissed' away our money?
Start here and you’ll be able to answer most of your questions.
Thanks for the link. From the first hit on your link:
House Appropriations Chairman Hal Rogers today gave the following floor statement on a resolution that would cut the office budgets of Members of Congress, committees, and leadership in the House by 5%. Chairman Rogers directed the cuts to his committee to go even further, cutting his own committee budget by 9%.
Thanks for the link. From your link:
Liberals crown Rep. Hal Rogers as ‘prince of pork’ to deflect away attention from Rep. Murtha.
You need to do some research for yourself. Google, Answers, Yahoo, Wikipedia
Pork is swapping taxpayer dollars for campaign cash. Understand how it works? Use the pork to make your constituents happy so they’ll contribute their cash to your re-election campaign. The happier a corporation is with your pork the more cash you can expect from them. And the best part is you aren’t spending a solitary dime of your own money!
That’s how a politician gets to spend a lifetime time sucking on the taxpayers tit. Living high on the hog spending our money. I don’t admire politicians. Respect very few of them. Most of them are attorneys with a gift for gag who have no conscience when it comes to repeatedly lying.
So far, so good.
These socialist idgits had 2 years to shove ANYTHING down our throats and didn’t even look at gun control issues.
Someone is waggin the dog....... Good on the SOTH for kicking this crap back in the round file !
Stay Safe Laz.......nite !
We will see if he keeps on course.
Sh*t, dawg, they knew they were gonna get creamed. They could have done a Sniper Rifle ban (hunting rifles), another AWB minus sunset, a conceal carry forbid, a handgun ban, and they would have gotten about the same drubbing.
Like I said, the only thing wot saved us from tyranny was that Barry the Kenyan was lazy. If Hitler played golf and sucked on ice cream cones as much as Barry the Kenyan, the 40's might have been a really nice, sweet, peaceful decade.
Yep yep yep....agree agree agree !!!
Doom on em !