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Will NASA's New 'Glory' Spacecraft Silence Climate-Change Deniers?
The Daily Galaxy News ^ | January 12, 2011 | If you find out, let us know

Posted on 01/12/2011 12:41:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Glory is a low Earth orbit scientific research satellite designed to collect data on the properties of aerosols, including black carbon, in the Earth's atmosphere and climate system, and to collect data on solar irradiance for the long-term effects on the Earth climate record. The new robotic probe is headed to the launch pad, aiming for a spot aboard what is called the A-train -- a fleet of Earth-orbiting spacecraft keeping tabs on the planet's changing climate.

Coming to a topline conclusion about the treality of global warming will be a snap: Glory will measure the total amount of energy coming to Earth from the sun, subtract what gets reflected back or re-radiated from particles in the atmosphere and see what you have left. If more energy is coming in than going out, it's getting hotter.

To calibrate just how much is human-created is more complicated: Figure out what fraction of these atmospheric particles stems from natural phenomena, such as wind-blown dust and volcanic eruptions, and what is coming from things we can control -- our industrial processes, business pursuits and recreational past-times.

NASA hopes to tackle the question with Glory: part-solar monitor, part-atmospheric probe, Glory will join the quartet of Earth-orbiting satellites known as the Afternoon Constellation -- nicknamed the A-train -- which fly over the equator at roughly 1:30 p.m. local time every day so scientists can collect data from a variety of instruments tracking the same bit of real estate virtually simultaneously. That information is fed into computer models used to monitor and forecast climate change.

From a stationary position 438 miles above Earth, Glory will inventory atmospheric aerosols -- both naturally occurring and human-induced -- so scientists can determine each type's relative influence on global climate. ........

(Excerpt) Read more at dailygalaxy.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerosols; agw; climatechange; manbearpig; nasa
This headline editorial comment is not addressed anywhere else in the article.

It is quite clear that a lot of "science" is being done to shut people up rather than trying to advance understanding of the world around us.

1 posted on 01/12/2011 12:41:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The idea of a true energy audit of the globe sounds intriguing. That’s going to open a pandora’s box of issues, as carbon dioxide is hardly the leading factor in earth’s “greenhousing.”


2 posted on 01/12/2011 12:46:28 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Figures don’t lie, but liars can figure.


3 posted on 01/12/2011 12:48:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What a waste of money. Instead of research, the satellite should be broadcasting self-esteem messages to Muslims per Obama’s stated goal for NASA.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 12:49:21 AM PST by peyton randolph (There is no such thing as moderate Islam)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thought Global Warming had already been proved.


5 posted on 01/12/2011 12:50:09 AM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The climate is supposed to change.


6 posted on 01/12/2011 12:53:53 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (I Love Catholic Nerds)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Psst! It’s really a spy satellite to find out if you’re still using incandescent light bulbs in your house.


7 posted on 01/12/2011 12:54:09 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The satellite will not and can not tell us what the sun will do.
They will take whatever data and massage it to say whatever they want it to say.

You can be sure that in their conclusion it will be “Give us
your money the power to control your life, and we will save you from Gorebull warming”.


8 posted on 01/12/2011 12:56:21 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
To calibrate just how much is human-created is more complicated: Figure out what fraction of these atmospheric particles stems from natural phenomena, such as wind-blown dust and volcanic eruptions, and what is coming from things we can control -- our industrial processes, business pursuits and recreational past-times.

And that is exactly where the fudge factors (calibrate/complicated) will be kicked in, this will settle nothing.

9 posted on 01/12/2011 12:58:21 AM PST by The Cajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

An atmospheric aerosol satellite;

Who wouldha thunk it ?


10 posted on 01/12/2011 1:02:22 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: The Cajun

The “wiggle room” they’ve learned to know and love.


11 posted on 01/12/2011 1:03:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The propaganda is in the title. Most who deny man made global warming do not deny that the climate changes because of nature. Ice ages have come and Gone many times without the help of man. This probe is just the chance to make some more phony claims about the source, and the effect of what they measure.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 1:05:17 AM PST by Revel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

who’s the climate change deniers. I don’t know anyone like that. Everyone k now climate changes everyday


13 posted on 01/12/2011 1:07:04 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: 4rcane
They all know we know but they don't want those who don't know to know. So.......they have to dismiss facts and insult and label those who challenge their findings. They have to control the debate and hide the data to slow global laughter.
14 posted on 01/12/2011 1:15:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Heck of an expensive way to prove a point that needs no proof.

Whether this: If more energy is coming in than going out, it’s getting hotter.

What a ridiculous statement. One might just as well say, the sun shines therefore things are getting hotter.

The statement is both true and false. The sun shines but things are not necessarily getting hotter from the mean.

Or this: In fact, data has shown over the last ten years, there has been a slight amount of cooling from the mean temperature of ten years ago.

...and frankly Scarlett, why are you (in a general rather than the specific poster sense) worried about global warming. God has been taking care of his creation ever since, as a habitation for human beings. It might as well be called a life support system. The controls are in place and have worked quite well for centuries. Man does not have access to the control room, so it might be moot from the get go to try and prove something one has no control over.

Unfortunately, it appears that the lack of keys to the control room isn’t a very big deterrent to those with the inner desire to break the lock open the door and take over for God.


15 posted on 01/12/2011 2:12:55 AM PST by wita
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From a stationary position 438 miles above Earth, Glory will inventory atmospheric aerosols...

If is 'stationery' at 438 miles, it will burn up in atmosphere. Geosynchronous orbit is 22,000 mi out.

Kinda makes one question the whole project. (As if we needed other reasons to do so)

16 posted on 01/12/2011 2:15:14 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Show me this climate change denier and I’ll show you someone who has never heard of the ice ages.

Anyone want’s to talk to a human generated climate change denier can give me a call.

1-800-str-awmn


17 posted on 01/12/2011 2:30:01 AM PST by DManA
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To: Islander7

I just posted the following to their comments section:

“How can it be stationary at 438 miles up? Don’t you people understand how geostationary satellites work? If you don’t understand that, how can we trust anything you say about science?

And why would it even make sense to be stationary over one spot, if it is trying measure the whole planet?”


18 posted on 01/12/2011 2:34:11 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: wita

NASA is also obsessed with the “search for life.”


19 posted on 01/12/2011 2:38:19 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife (Allhttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2122429/posts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Its function will be to provide data that can be manipulated to support forgone conclusions.


20 posted on 01/12/2011 2:38:49 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Will NASA's New 'Glory' Spacecraft Silence Climate-Change Deniers?

I see a headline like that and know I'm being propagandized. No one wants to be a "denier" after all.

Those of us who have been around a few decades know, historically, "denier" is generally proceeded by "Holocaust" and such people are fringe, foolish, racist outcasts.

The scientific method and advancement requires questioning. This is how they treat those who are skeptics of the political and economic schemes built on global coolingglobal warming climate-change. It's almost like how the Church once treated Galileo.

21 posted on 01/12/2011 2:44:56 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
While in the past some instruments were incorrect, when discovered, honest scientists would fix or replace them. Or find a way to correct for the error in their analyses.

This stopped when politics became involved and when AGW/C became a religion. There are no honest scientists at NASA now; they will take this impeccable data now and feed their same worthless models. And arrive at the answer their religion demands.

22 posted on 01/12/2011 2:50:00 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Will NASA's New 'Glory' Spacecraft Silence Climate-Change Deniers?

There are no climate-change deniers. There are anthropogenic global warming deniers. And even then, they're not denying any possibility of man having an effect on warming, they're denying the assertion, offered without evidence, that human activity is responsible for a change, not in evidence, that will, without immediately following the recommendations of the AGW proponents, inevitably result in the destruction of the ecosphere. The "deniers" are the reasonable and responsible party.
23 posted on 01/12/2011 2:54:04 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Actually I think that the Earth must radiate slightly more heat than it absorbs from the sun when you take into account the heat that is created inside the earth and must be radiated away. Also there are other heat sources which may be minor but need to be accounted for, because the equation is in a very fine balance considering the huge total amount of energy involved.

Frankly I think the difference they are trying to find is an order of magnitude smaller than the errors and assumptions that will go into the “fudge” factors.

In short, I think the answer will turn out to be, as is so often the case with these jokers, just what they want it to be.


24 posted on 01/12/2011 2:58:26 AM PST by John Valentine
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To: Islander7

I knew someone else would notice that. The author mentions that the satellite is going to join the A-train and then says it will be stationary. Doh!


25 posted on 01/12/2011 3:05:26 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Right Wing Assault

LOL! Good on you!


26 posted on 01/12/2011 3:06:55 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The headline makes it seem there is already an agenda afoot.

Why can’t this spaceship silence Global Warning doomsayers?


27 posted on 01/12/2011 3:36:02 AM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From a stationary position 438 miles above Earth

It won't be stationary at that height...who did the research on this story? LOL!!!

28 posted on 01/12/2011 3:37:46 AM PST by hattend (The meaning of the 2010 election was rebuke, reject, and repeal. - Sarah Palin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
or the warming fraudsters...
29 posted on 01/12/2011 3:58:16 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; Darnright; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

30 posted on 01/12/2011 4:39:48 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What a threat hann? "Glory will measure the total amount of energy coming to Earth from the sun, subtract what gets reflected back or re-radiated from particles in the atmosphere and see what you have left. If more energy is coming in than going out, it's getting hotter." Nobody will say that if the same ammount goes out that comes in, Earth will be a frozen desert... Just like the Moon... Then, if it is set up that it might be more coming in, "Global Warming" is already proved, and we, the "Deniers" must shut up, and UN Climate take over the world governance. What a bunch of BS!
31 posted on 01/12/2011 7:06:04 AM PST by Mayr Fortuna
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If more energy is coming in than going out, it's getting hotter

I do not think that dude made an A in Thermodynamics. The amount of energy radiated into space is roughly equal to the energy we receive plus the energy generated by the earth core from radiation. The reason it is not exactly equal is mostly due to photosynthesis. The energy of the sun drives photosynthesis and thus chemical reactions that store energy.

Most liberals are scientific cretins

32 posted on 01/12/2011 8:06:30 AM PST by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast: THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Glory will measure the total amount of energy coming to Earth from the sun, subtract what gets reflected back or re-radiated from particles in the atmosphere and see what you have left. If more energy is coming in than going out, it’s getting hotter.”

Among other things, this assertion ignores reflection and re-radiation from the earth’s surface.


33 posted on 01/12/2011 8:21:52 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: hattend

You beat me to it!!!


34 posted on 01/12/2011 8:49:21 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
If more energy is coming in than going out, it's getting hotter.

It does not verify any such thing, all it does is suggest boundary limits on Earth's energy exchange from the sun, you have no historical reference to base these numbers on.

They'll probably put it into some computer models, that means their back to square one of the junk science equation.

35 posted on 01/12/2011 8:54:18 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
That’s going to open a pandora’s box of issues

Just as they did with the "ozone hole" and AGW, they will discover something never seen before and find it "troubling".....

.....Within 2 years they will have some kook theory that purports to show the earth is doomed because of man, complete with faked proxy data trends going back to the time of the dinosaurs.

Then we will have congressional hearings and a new enviro-crusade will have been born.

36 posted on 01/12/2011 4:07:05 PM PST by SteamShovel (Beware the RINO-VIRUS...It will kill the TEA Party movement.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
To calibrate just how much is human-created is more complicated:

In fact, it's so complicated that we'll just skip this step, and begin by making stuff up.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

37 posted on 01/12/2011 4:12:48 PM PST by The Comedian (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope.)
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To: KevinDavis

Thanks Cincinatus’ Wife.


38 posted on 01/13/2011 7:54:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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