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Test of Stealth Fighter Clouds Gates Visit to China
NYT ^ | January 11, 2011 | ELISABETH BUMILLER and MICHAEL WINES

Posted on 01/12/2011 3:13:04 AM PST by lbryce

China’s military conducted a test flight of a new stealth fighter jet on Tuesday, overshadowing an important visit to Beijing by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates aimed at improving defense ties — and apparently catching China’s civilian leadership off guard.

Staging the test flight of the long-secret J-20 while Mr. Gates was in Beijing amounted to an unusually bold show of force by China. But the demonstration also raised questions about the degree of civilian control of the Chinese military, as President Hu Jintao and other civilian leaders gave their American visitors the impression that they were unaware that the test had been conducted only hours before they received Mr. Gates at the Great Hall of the People.

A senior American defense official said that when Mr. Gates asked Mr. Hu to discuss the test it was evident to the Americans that the Chinese leader and his top civilian advisers were startled by the query and were unprepared to answer him. Photos of the flight of the radar-evading J-20 had been prominently posted on unofficial Chinese military Web sites a few hours before the meeting.

"The civilian leadership seemed surprised by the test," Mr. Gates told reporters on Wednesday morning in Mutianyu, during a visit to the Great Wall outside Beijing.

In remarks to reporters on Tuesday in Beijing, Mr. Gates said that Mr. Hu did acknowledge the test, apparently later in the same meeting, and that he assured Mr. Gates that it “had absolutely nothing to do with my visit.”

Asked if he truly believed that, Mr. Gates said, “I take President Hu at his word.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; gates; j20; stealth; superpower; us
The political asymmetry between the US and China is only going to get worse, much worse with China's exceedingly militaristic bravado exacerbated by its ever-expanding economic power in a way that does not bode well for the future of the global preeminence America has enjoyed for the past fifty+ years. China ascendant, America in seeming decline will make relations between them increasingly contentious, hostile in the days ahead.
1 posted on 01/12/2011 3:13:10 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce
A bit obscure but apropos...
2 posted on 01/12/2011 3:18:10 AM PST by n230099 ("When no one knows who is armed...everyone is.")
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To: n230099
Okay. As ardent aficonado of Star Trek's original series, I am ashamed to have drawn a blank. Please kindly indulge me and as such may you live long and prosper.
3 posted on 01/12/2011 3:27:11 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: lbryce

After reading only the excerpt I detect a tad smell of BS regarding the Chinese being ill prepared to discuss this test with Gates. It strikes me as a slap in the face to the US. More of a flip off actually.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 3:36:24 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: lbryce
It's from Episode 40, 'The Deadly Years'
5 posted on 01/12/2011 3:36:45 AM PST by n230099 ("When no one knows who is armed...everyone is.")
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To: rockinqsranch

Sure is a slap in the face. Then again we’ve become a country of buffoons so I guess that could be expected.


6 posted on 01/12/2011 3:43:54 AM PST by whershey
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To: n230099
Thanks for enlightening me on the matter.

So, is your implication that America will regain its dynamic strength, vim, vigor as bone out by the storyline?

7 posted on 01/12/2011 3:45:27 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: lbryce

in the meantime, we borrow money from China to build our own stealth fighters...


8 posted on 01/12/2011 4:00:38 AM PST by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: lbryce

As predicted, this just one more signs that Free Trade™ has been a raging success at bettering out relations with China. < /sarc >


9 posted on 01/12/2011 4:04:53 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: lbryce

Actually, in the picture I linked, Stocker has just realized that he’s in over his head. I wondered if, seeing the new Chinese fighter, Gates and others had the same look on their faces.


10 posted on 01/12/2011 4:07:17 AM PST by n230099 ("When no one knows who is armed...everyone is.")
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To: n230099

Fascinating. I was not aware that the Orientals
had acquired cloaking technology.
n230099, may you live long and prosper.

11 posted on 01/12/2011 4:30:24 AM PST by lbryce (Obama Notwithstanding, America's Best Days Are Yet To Be .)
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To: whershey

What Did Gates Go there For? Was it to be Thanked by the Chinese for Delivering Our F-22 Raptor Fighter to them.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 4:31:53 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: lbryce
But the demonstration also raised questions about the degree of civilian control of the Chinese military>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

There is no civilian control of Red China's military. The government of Red China IS the military. There is no separation between military and coillian function.The WEST and its liberal leftists press ignore this fact at their peril. Red China's government is all military, and it has a split personality, a kind of functional bureaucratic schizophrenia.

13 posted on 01/12/2011 4:39:48 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: lbryce
he assured Mr. Gates that it “had absolutely nothing to do with my visit.”

Translation: It had everything to do with your visit.

I suspect this isn't lost on Gates and he's, for diplomatic reasons, saying he takes Hu at his word.

14 posted on 01/12/2011 4:46:51 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: lbryce

“I take President Hu at his word.”

Which means absolutely nothing.
Together with the Chinese students openly laughing at our..who was that buffoon anyway?.. official when he visited, I think that it shows that the Chinese in general hold American politicians in the same regard that most of us here do.

Contempt.


15 posted on 01/12/2011 5:02:35 AM PST by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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