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The U.S. Navy's Name Game (a new ship named after Pennsylvania congressman John Murtha?)
Time ^ | 1/09/11 | Mark Thompson

Posted on 01/12/2011 9:44:24 AM PST by Libloather

The U.S. Navy's Name Game
Posted by Mark Thompson
Sunday January 9, 2011 at 8:30 pm

Prospective parents battling over the names of their unborn kids have nothing on the U.S. Navy, which is in the middle of a spat over the wisdom of naming a new ship for the late Pennsylvania congressman John Murtha. In fact, it has kicked off a bigger battle over just who, or what, should be honored with their names on the great gray hulls of the nation's warships. "It comes down to two points," says military historian James Caiella. "Who and what we are as Americans, and what symbols do we want to represent those ideals?"

**SNIP**

But Mabus' decision has unleashed a continuing torrent of opposition from many former sailors and Marines. They say that naming a vessel for Murtha rewards a lawmaker who called for pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq in late 2005 during the war's toughest days, and one who was implicated in bribery and pork-barrel politics. On Friday, a former Murtha aide-turned-lobbyist was sentenced to 27 months in prison for evading limits on campaign donations; Murtha also was an "unindicted co-conspirator" in 1980's FBI-run Abscam sting.

And that isn't the worst of it, according to sailors and Marines: putting Murtha's name on an amphibious warship designed to carry 700 Marines is outrageous, they maintain, given Murtha's 2006 charge that Marines in the Iraqi city of Haditha "killed innocent civilians in cold blood." (One of the eight Marines charged in the case still faces trial; six have had their charges dismissed and one was acquitted.)

(Excerpt) Read more at swampland.blogs.time.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abscam; haditha; jamescaiella; johnmurtha; military; murtha; namesake; navy; pennsylvania; pma; ship; usnavy

1 posted on 01/12/2011 9:44:29 AM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

How about the USS Mutha?


2 posted on 01/12/2011 9:45:38 AM PST by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: Libloather

My Navy vet hubby is all for sinking even the IDEA of doing such a thing!


3 posted on 01/12/2011 9:47:25 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Libloather

Is there a word for this? Yes. It’s an abortion.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 9:48:04 AM PST by Mach9
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To: Libloather
Garbage scow maybe.

How about the USS Obama with a 100% gay crew?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

5 posted on 01/12/2011 9:48:04 AM PST by The Comedian (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope.)
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To: Libloather

Garbage scow?


6 posted on 01/12/2011 9:48:39 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (FreeRepublic. Monthly Donors Welcome.)
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To: Libloather

Can we just murthball it?


7 posted on 01/12/2011 9:48:51 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Libloather

A dinghy maybe. But not a warship. Fat Jack didn’t “believe” in war.


8 posted on 01/12/2011 9:49:16 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: Libloather

At least it’s not a Submarine named afetr Bawney Fwank.....


9 posted on 01/12/2011 9:49:59 AM PST by sniper63 (Did you plug the hole in the border yet daddy........)
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To: Libloather

Carter....Murtha....who’s next, John Kerry?


10 posted on 01/12/2011 9:50:43 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Libloather

I can also see a USS Code Pink in the Navy’s future.


11 posted on 01/12/2011 9:50:54 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: Libloather

The Obama navy shows itself. Next is the USS JANE FONDA


12 posted on 01/12/2011 9:51:32 AM PST by Lexington Green (Bring Our Troops Home - Send The Democrats)
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To: The Comedian
Garbage scow maybe.

The garbage scow is a useful, even necessary vessel for proper harbor operation. It should not be dishonoured with murtha's name.

13 posted on 01/12/2011 9:52:12 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Libloather
NO! NOT AN LPD!! ARRRRRRRGH!









Former LPD-8 sailor . . .

14 posted on 01/12/2011 9:54:33 AM PST by guitar4jesus (Biofuels, AGW, Globalism, Green Movement -- Strong Delusions! . . . . 2Thes 2:11)
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To: Libloather
“It comes down to two points,” says military historian James Caiella. “Who and what we are as Americans, and what symbols do we want to represent those ideals?”

Wrong. It comes down to “How can we get a bigger budget out of Congress?” Otherwise, SSNs would be named after fish, just like WWII SSs (and the USS Nautilus). CGs would be named after cities, CVNs after famous ships or battles (Enterprise, Saratoga, Yorktown), etc.

15 posted on 01/12/2011 9:55:49 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Libloather
Why USS John Murtha? Why not USS Julius Rosenberg or USS Alger Hiss?
16 posted on 01/12/2011 9:56:36 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Garbage scow!


17 posted on 01/12/2011 9:56:47 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Libloather

If they do name the ship after Murtha, they’ll probably have to adjust the navigation system to prevent it from always trying to redeploy to Okinawa.


18 posted on 01/12/2011 9:57:26 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: Libloather

Change the name of an existing nondescript sort of vessel such as a barge or something of that nature to Murtha if it’s so damned important to have his name on a naval vessel, and then sink it as a reef off the coast of Louisiana, or someplace to improve fishing.

Probably be the only positive thing associated with the bastard.


19 posted on 01/12/2011 9:59:33 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Libloather; smoothsailing; Just A Nobody; 4woodenboats; American Cabalist; AmericanYankee; ...
"Name a ship after a congressman who disgraced himself by rushing to judge that fellow Marines had committed murder in Iraq?"

No way, shape or form this should happen, it's outrageous.

Ray Mabus is a disgrace for even considering this, let alone actually going through with naming this ship for a corrupt, lying politician.

20 posted on 01/12/2011 10:03:48 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: rockinqsranch

Are there no blimps they can name after this gasbag?


21 posted on 01/12/2011 10:04:56 AM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Hardraade

Murtha was a CROOK! Let’s NEVER forget this and please join me in a symbolic SPIT upon the grave of this moron!


22 posted on 01/12/2011 10:11:37 AM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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To: submarinerswife; brwnsuga; navynucmom; RainMan; US Navy Vet; Coldwater Creek; NavyCanDo; ...

Navy family ping


23 posted on 01/12/2011 10:12:05 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Navy Mom)
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To: jazusamo

USS Corruption, USS Pork-Barrel, perhaps even the USS Bribery might be good compromises.

However, Murtha, a worthless traitor, is not a name that should be on ANY of our ships, boats or anything paid for with tax dollars.


24 posted on 01/12/2011 10:16:47 AM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Next. maybe the USS Benedict Arnold or the USS John Wilkes Booth!!


25 posted on 01/12/2011 10:19:28 AM PST by Napoleon Solo
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To: Libloather

The crew will be larger than the number of people who have ever used the Murtha Airport.


26 posted on 01/12/2011 10:21:29 AM PST by Right Wing Assault (Our Constitution: the new Inconvenient Truth)
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To: The Comedian

I don’t think Obama’s staff is willing to enlist.


27 posted on 01/12/2011 10:23:03 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Libloather

If you want to condemn a beautiful new ship to bad fortune, name it after a scoundrel like John Murtha! I wouldn’t want my son to serve on it.


28 posted on 01/12/2011 10:24:31 AM PST by Paperdoll ( On the cutting edge)
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To: DarthVader

Ships all have nicknames, I think you came up with the first half, the last half will probably be “fuka”


29 posted on 01/12/2011 10:33:57 AM PST by E.Allen
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To: sniper63
Barney would love a long, hard, object full of Semen. Sorry I meant SEAMAN.
30 posted on 01/12/2011 10:35:25 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: Libloather

It’s an insult to the people who serve.


31 posted on 01/12/2011 10:39:50 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: jazusamo
Time shouldn't even be commenting on ANYTHING military after the scat attack they smeared our country and the patriots who protect her.

But they did, and coudn't help but have one more "fling" --> Last line of the article ~

Of course, sailors and Marines, used to being ignored by the brass, are coming up with their own names for the Murtha. Right now, USS Cold Blooded Killers seems to be their top choice.

32 posted on 01/12/2011 10:45:13 AM PST by 4woodenboats (Pelosi texts for a lifeline - blinkblinkblink blink blink blink blinkblinkblink blink blink blink...)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo; Libloather; jazusamo; 4woodenboats
Garbage scow?

Photobucket

33 posted on 01/12/2011 11:10:15 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Bump! :)


34 posted on 01/12/2011 11:16:24 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Libloather

How about USS Rat Bastard Murtha?


35 posted on 01/12/2011 11:22:37 AM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: jazusamo

Mabus’s is doing this as a slap in the face to our Sailors and Marines. Nothing else could make sense.


36 posted on 01/12/2011 11:26:26 AM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: jazusamo

What a freaking disgrace! This is akin to naming a new women’s shelter for Ted Bundy.


37 posted on 01/12/2011 11:26:54 AM PST by Baynative (Truth is treason in an empire of lies)
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To: Libloather
Something like this would be more appropriate...


38 posted on 01/12/2011 11:27:01 AM PST by Fresh Wind
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To: Libloather

There is no excuse for naming a ship after that anti-military, anti-American thug. Murtha was and evil, hateful, and reckless liar who deserves to be forgotten by our military.


39 posted on 01/12/2011 11:33:10 AM PST by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: smoothsailing

I don’t think that boat is gonna float ~ too much dirty laundry.


40 posted on 01/12/2011 12:06:32 PM PST by 4woodenboats (Pelosi texts for a lifeline - blinkblinkblink blink blink blink blinkblinkblink blink blink blink...)
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To: Libloather
How about "honoring" this crook with the U.S.S. I'm Not Interested...At This Point.

Too wordy....?

41 posted on 01/12/2011 12:14:16 PM PST by edpc (It's Kräusened)
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To: jazusamo

Right up to the end, that p.o.s. refused to show any remorse for his heinous accusations. Murtha (D-Abscam) disgraced the Marine Corps, the Department of the Navy, and the United States. He’s dead. Time to take a shower and forget him. Why on earth would this guy get anything named after him other than a battleship-sized turd floating in my toilet?


42 posted on 01/12/2011 12:24:38 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: The Comedian
The USS Murtha lead out of port for sea trials...
43 posted on 01/12/2011 2:04:23 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: Fresh Wind

That’s the USS Bawney Fwank ...


44 posted on 01/12/2011 2:09:07 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: DarthVader

45 posted on 01/12/2011 2:17:26 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Libloather; JulieRNR21; neverdem; ALOHA RONNIE; george76; potlatch; SunkenCiv

46 posted on 01/12/2011 2:18:34 PM PST by Seadog Bytes ("Smart Growth"... isn't.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

oh HELL no.


47 posted on 01/12/2011 2:38:29 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Libloather

The best word in that article is ‘late’


48 posted on 01/13/2011 6:57:35 AM PST by tomkat (1860 in the air)
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To: Libloather

I suggest to honor the end of DADT, they call it the USS Raging Queen. It will go to man’s ports like Key West, and San Francisco.


49 posted on 01/13/2011 7:00:09 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Libloather

Last I heard the idea was to refer to the ship as the USS Bloated Turd or USS X-Marine and whatever detachment made up the MEU to be nicknamed the “Cold Blooded Killers”.

Marines are used to getting stuck with the Murtha end of the stick. Much of the Corps’ sense of humor as evolved from that.

Semper Fi.


50 posted on 01/15/2011 2:05:21 AM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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