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UAW, non-U.S. automakers in preliminary talks
yahoo/reuters ^ | 1/12/10

Posted on 01/12/2011 11:31:05 AM PST by EBH

DETROIT (Reuters) – The United Auto Workers has had preliminary private discussions with some nonunion automakers about organizing U.S. plants as it aims to expand to Asian and European companies, UAW President Bob King said on Wednesday.

King declined to name the companies the UAW has talked to under its latest organizing plan that includes a plea to companies to agree to "trust principles" for bargaining with the union.

"We are in some preliminary discussions which we agreed to keep confidential so we will do that," King told reporters at the Automotive News World Congress that is held on the sidelines of the Detroit auto show.

"These are all really good companies," King said. "We just have to convince them that we are not the evil empire that they thought we were at one point."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bustunions; corruption; democrats; economy; liberalfascism; obamasminions; uaw; unioncorruption; unions

1 posted on 01/12/2011 11:31:07 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

Surely they are not that stupid.


2 posted on 01/12/2011 11:33:28 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: EBH

WTF! This has to be stopped! BMW, Mercedes, VW, Hyundai, Toyo and Honda need to tell the UAW to get ******. They need to tell them they will close the plants first.


3 posted on 01/12/2011 11:34:15 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: EBH

“preliminary talks”??

Is that when the Mafia thug comes to your door and make you an offer you can’t refuse?


4 posted on 01/12/2011 11:35:33 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: EBH

My fear is that the UAW will infect the asian manufacturers, and the asian companies will be forced to pull their manufacturing out of America. And once again, the UAW would do what it does best, kill jobs.


5 posted on 01/12/2011 11:35:37 AM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: EBH

That would be great, since the union has done so much for the American auto industry.


6 posted on 01/12/2011 11:35:44 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: EBH

That would be great, since the union has done so much for the American auto industry.


7 posted on 01/12/2011 11:35:44 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: EBH

I wonder if there is pressure on these companies coming from the Obama regime.


8 posted on 01/12/2011 11:36:12 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: Frantzie

You should have seen my face as I came across the article...

this is one of those days where ...

stop the merry-go-round....

I want to get off.


9 posted on 01/12/2011 11:36:31 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: KansasGirl

left hand watch the right hand

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4487225/biden-vs-3-year-old-boy/


10 posted on 01/12/2011 11:38:19 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: EBH

“These are all really good companies,” King said. “We just have to convince them that we are not the evil empire that they thought we were at one point.”

IOW, you have to lie! Perhaps some Chicago thug tactics will convince them!


11 posted on 01/12/2011 11:38:29 AM PST by KansasGirl
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To: EBH

If Asian and European entities get involved with the UAW, they will be sorry as the UAW will drive their costs up beyond all reason and make then far less competitive in the marketplace just as they did with US manufacturers.


12 posted on 01/12/2011 11:39:29 AM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: Frantzie
"United Auto Workers has had preliminary private discussions with some nonunion automakers about organizing U.S. plants"

The UAW and the Public Sector Unions are using extortion to fleece taxpayers already, and now are seeking to drive ALL manufacturing offshore. Those currently running non-union plants will re-locate to Mexico, and jobs will be gone forever. This trend has led to our economic collapse already, yet the ORGANIZED CRIME of Unions is allowed to continue, simply because they take taxpayer money to funnel to the Socialists who in turn take taxpayer money to give back to Unions in a money-laundering operation like no other.

13 posted on 01/12/2011 11:40:07 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Ev Reeman

The backdoor version of card check?


14 posted on 01/12/2011 11:40:56 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: EBH

Each auto company needs to tell the states where they have factories in that they will close up shop. They just need to say one word to those states - “NUMMI.”

This was the Toyo joint venture in Calif with GM/Chevy. Toyo shut it down then started getting complaints about acceleration issue. Nummi!


15 posted on 01/12/2011 11:42:31 AM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: EBH

UAW now own’s GM and I believe Chrysler. Kill the host then become the host, compliments of Obama! I wonder if I contributed to Ohaha could I get title to the 7-11 on the corner?

Geez?


16 posted on 01/12/2011 11:42:49 AM PST by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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To: traditional1
If the unions (never happen) become TOTALLY NONPOLITICAL I might buy a union made car.

Until then, "UNION MADE" means I will NEVER buy it.

17 posted on 01/12/2011 11:43:51 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: JohnD9207

Sorry for using ‘killing’ in my last post. Geez now some poor nutcase victim is going to go off.


18 posted on 01/12/2011 11:44:47 AM PST by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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To: EBH

All the non-uaw plants are in RTW states, the workers will never vote the union in!


19 posted on 01/12/2011 11:45:55 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: KansasGirl
I wonder if there is pressure on these companies coming from the Obama regime.

No more calls please we have a winner!

20 posted on 01/12/2011 11:46:03 AM PST by Drill Thrawl (The 0 admin thinks it is above the law.)
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To: EBH

Just skip a step and nationalize them now......


21 posted on 01/12/2011 11:46:47 AM PST by Average Al
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To: EBH

Jeez, I just started buying Japanese because of those thugs - if (heaven forbid) they muscle their way into the entire industry, I’m going to have to start making my own transportation!


22 posted on 01/12/2011 11:49:02 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Ev Reeman
they will be sorry as the UAW will drive their costs up beyond all reason and make then far less competitive in the marketplace just as they did with US manufacturers.

That's the fallacy being perpetuated, that non-union workers aren't as well off as union members. In most instances, the benefits are on par, if not better then what union facilities offer, because they are trying to prevent the unionization of the facility and doing so as a preventative measure.

23 posted on 01/12/2011 11:52:25 AM PST by voicereason (A RINO is just a different shade of Democrat.)
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To: KansasGirl

I believe that last year’s media and congressional circus over Toyota’ supposed “unintended acceleration” problem was a direct warning to them to play ball with the Dem’s political agenda.

By the way - how many stories do you hear about Toyota’s supposed brake problems today?


24 posted on 01/12/2011 11:53:17 AM PST by PGR88
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To: EBH

I will not purchase a UAW car. In fact, if given the choice, I’ll take a Japanese car made in Japan than a transplant. I want my car built with the Bishkek code


25 posted on 01/12/2011 11:55:43 AM PST by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: EBH

I will not purchase a UAW car. In fact, if given the choice, I’ll take a Japanese car made in Japan than a transplant. I want my car built with the Bushido code


26 posted on 01/12/2011 11:56:01 AM PST by hecht (TAKE BACK OUR NATION AND OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM)
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To: EBH

bookmark


27 posted on 01/12/2011 11:57:54 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: brownsfan

i’m driving my ninth Honda since 1976 because of the high quality and dependability of the Honda product. If the union gets in, we can depend only on the total loss of quality. sd


28 posted on 01/12/2011 12:04:50 PM PST by shotdog (I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
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To: brownsfan

The asian companies send their money back to asia. Not a big union guy here but I am biased against the asian mfgs simply because we can not sell wnything over in their countries.


29 posted on 01/12/2011 12:05:01 PM PST by Moleman
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To: G Larry

Exactly


30 posted on 01/12/2011 12:05:01 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: EBH

Oh, brother. Nothing good can come of this.
They should have told the UAW to go to Hell.


31 posted on 01/12/2011 12:05:31 PM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Moleman

“The asian companies send their money back to asia. ...”

Want them to stop sending money back to Asia? Buy stock in them. Or are you worried about auto industry executives? Do you think that the suits at GM care any more about America than the Asians? I don’t.


32 posted on 01/12/2011 12:11:55 PM PST by brownsfan (D - swift death of the republic, R - lingering death for the republic.)
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To: JohnD9207
Kill the host then become the host, compliments of Obama!

More like John Carpenter's "The Thing".

33 posted on 01/12/2011 12:12:05 PM PST by Soothesayer9
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To: Frantzie

No just have them sell some stock to the chinese they would know how to handle the UAW.


34 posted on 01/12/2011 12:23:24 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Little Ray

Why would they even entertain these thugs?


35 posted on 01/12/2011 12:26:27 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Stosh

I’m getting a horse.


36 posted on 01/12/2011 12:30:06 PM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: SueRae

A horse is a great idea, but eventually the Local Ferrier’s Workers no. 115 will be picketing outside your barn for using non-union made shoes...


37 posted on 01/12/2011 12:43:06 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: KansasGirl

I wonder if there is pressure on these companies coming from the Obama regime.


You Betcha! This is where the UAW pension bailout will come from. Count on it.


38 posted on 01/12/2011 12:49:24 PM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: rbg81
You Betcha! This is where the UAW pension bailout will come from. Count on it.

If that is what happens, will the new UAW members get a pension and thus will they just be pushing the collapse some years or will the new UAW members get no pension, but have the privilege of paying for the retirees' pensions?

What's that word? Unsustainable?

39 posted on 01/12/2011 1:01:56 PM PST by MichiganConservative (Terrorists don't commit genocide. That's what governments do.)
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To: KansasGirl
I wonder if there is pressure on these companies coming from the Obama regime.

You mean the EPA might come in the building and finding unlimited infractions? Nahh.... Can't Happen ( / sarc off )

40 posted on 01/12/2011 2:02:32 PM PST by taildragger ((Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: EBH
Last year the UAW held protests outside Toyota dealerships in California to demonstrate against the automaker's decision to close a union-represented plant in Fremont, California. King said the "bannering" at Toyota dealerships was a taste of what automakers could expect if they do not adhere to the union's "trust principles" for bargaining.

Go ahead. I'll give special consideration to the manufacturers whose dealers are "bannered" the next time I'm looking to buy a car.

41 posted on 01/12/2011 2:18:15 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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To: Huebolt
"Until then, "UNION MADE" means I will NEVER buy it"

I've adopted the same philosophy; "Look for the Union Label"...then buy an alternative.

When I need a contractor, one of the questions I use is "are you Union". If the answer is "Yes", then my response is "Why?", and "No thanks". (HOWEVER, I also ask "are all your employees American Citizens"?)

42 posted on 01/12/2011 2:57:23 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: voicereason
Until VERY recently, union auto workers DID make much more than non union workers. The high labor costs for domestic manufacturers was a large factor in the bankruptcies of GM and Chrysler and the need for major restructuring of Ford.

“In a November 18, 2008, New York Times editorial, Andrew Ross Sorkin claimed that the average UAW worker was paid $70 per hour, including health and pension costs, while Toyota workers in the US receive $10 to $20 less.[17]"

Furthermore, the foreign makes did not have to deal with the job bank, where workers were paid 95% of their pay to do nothing. This practice has ended, due to the near demise of their employers for indulging in such insane largess.

Since 2007 things have changed a bit. “According to the 2007 GM Annual Report, typical autoworkers earn a base wage of approximately $28 per hour (higher than the average university educated engineer). Following the 2007 National Agreement, the base starting wage was lowered to about $15 per hour.[19] A second-tier wage of $14.50 an hour, which applies only to newly-hired workers, is lower than the average wage in nonunion auto companies in the Deep South.[20]”

This does not even begin to address the restrictive work rules, slowdowns, and other inefficiencies that are guaranteed to be manifested in any union shop. Bottom line is that the imports are nuts if they allow unions to get a toe hold in their factories.

43 posted on 01/13/2011 11:01:48 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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