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Why Wasn't Loughner's Mental Health Evaluated? (no one filed 'involuntary psychiatric evaluation')
My Fox Phoenix ^ | 1/11/11

Posted on 01/12/2011 12:06:03 PM PST by Libloather

Why Wasn't Loughner's Mental Health Evaluated?
Despite many red flags, he was never evaluated
Updated: Tuesday, 11 Jan 2011, 6:50 PM MST

TUCSON - As the legal case against Jared Loughner makes its way through the court system, the question is: could anything have been done to prevent the attack? Does anyone bear responsibility for failing to stop him?

Pima Community College asked Jared Loughner to leave and not come back until his parents could show he was getting help with his mental health needs. That did not happen.

An expert on mental health law in Arizona wishes the school had taken a different approach.

It was no secret to people who knew Jared Loughner. His classmates say he was troubled. His odd behavior at Pima Community College drew the attention of campus police.

Under Arizona law, the school could have sought an involuntary psychiatric evaluation for Loughner, but didn't.

"Had they chosen to file an application for an involuntary application, that would have triggered a process to evaluate him to the mental health system, rather than to the community college system," says Charles Arnold, a mental health attorney.

(Excerpt) Read more at myfoxphoenix.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; giffords; laredloughner; loughner; mental; mentalhealthsystem; mentalillness; psychiatry; schizophrenia
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Jared Lee Loughner: School Wanted Mental Evaluation - Two months before, on Oct. 7, Pima Community College sent a letter to Loughner's parents stating that if Loughner wished to return to the school, he would have to "obtain a mental health clearance indicating, in the opinion of a mental health professional, his presence at the College does not present a danger to himself or others," the school said in a statement.
1 posted on 01/12/2011 12:06:05 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Libloather

This piece also answers the question “Why was someone so nuts able to get a gun?”

Because officially he was not nuts.


2 posted on 01/12/2011 12:11:28 PM PST by DManA
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To: Libloather
Q: Why Wasn't Loughner's Mental Health Evaluated?

A: Political Correctness.

3 posted on 01/12/2011 12:11:33 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Libloather

I thought he was Sarah Palin’s responsibility... that what they said on MSNBC :)

Interesting article.


4 posted on 01/12/2011 12:14:03 PM PST by sickoflibs ("It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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To: Libloather

How often is that Az mental health law used?


5 posted on 01/12/2011 12:15:46 PM PST by DBrow
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To: 5thGenTexan

Yup!!

That’s the whole thing in a nutshell.

The US is committing suicide with this s^%t!!


6 posted on 01/12/2011 12:15:58 PM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: Libloather

Is he really as nuts as his mug shot shows? Was the extreme makeover nut look a set up an insanity defense? Maybe he is not as nuts as he wants us to think.


7 posted on 01/12/2011 12:16:00 PM PST by ex-snook ("Above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: 5thGenTexan

Personally, I don’t want government funded schools reporting people for involuntary psychiatric evaluation.

NEA teachers and most in the education industry today are socialists and worse. They will report Christians or anyone who is pro life or anti gay marriage.

Let’s not ask for it.


8 posted on 01/12/2011 12:16:43 PM PST by donna (Political Correctness is cultural Marxism - Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms.)
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To: Libloather
Sheriff Duped is playing political hardball. How bout' some fair play?

Why didn't Sheriff Dope have one of his own guarding the Congresswoman? Didn't he already know about this guy? Does he have blood on his hands?

9 posted on 01/12/2011 12:17:53 PM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Libloather

I wonder if they copy these types of letters to the sheriff’s department?


10 posted on 01/12/2011 12:19:51 PM PST by noexcuses
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To: DManA

Because he was over 18, and if he did not want to submit to a psych eval, his parents couldn’t make him.


11 posted on 01/12/2011 12:21:25 PM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: Libloather
The school's interest was the safety and well being of its students and faculty. It addressed that problem by expelling Loughner and conditioning readmission on a clean report from a mental health professional. It was not the school's responsibility to have him involuntarily committed for evaluation. That was his parents’ job or, at worst, the job of the civil authorities who were well aware of the behavior he had exhibited at the school.
12 posted on 01/12/2011 12:22:39 PM PST by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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To: Libloather

I must caution all against the practice of allowing goobers in gooberment agencies to determine who is sane and who is not. Remember how bureaucrats/collectivists abused that schtick in the old USSR?

It is apparent at first glance, that if those people at that meeting had been armed, things would have been different. Very different.

“that it is their right and duty to be at all time armed” - Jefferson, in his 1824 letter to Cartwright.

“A government that fears arms in the hands of it’s people should also fear ROPE!”

- Nathan Bedford Forrest about 1845


13 posted on 01/12/2011 12:25:00 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Libloather
the school could have sought an involuntary psychiatric evaluation for Loughner

Geez, why are people so quick to pass the blame...the ONLY person responsible for this crime is the person who pulled the trigger.

14 posted on 01/12/2011 12:25:18 PM PST by SouthDixie (The secret to staying young is to live honestly, eat slowly and lie about your age.)
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To: ottbmare

I’ve been told that there is an Az law that says citizens can request a psyc exam for someone for cause, not sure what the details are, but I think one outcome is an involuntary exam if the person looks dangerous to self or others.


15 posted on 01/12/2011 12:29:05 PM PST by DBrow
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To: DManA
My question is how did he afford a new Glock 19? I would love to buy a new gun, but I need to balance my budget. He seems to have been unemployable. Did his parent's give him the $700.+? No one is asking.
16 posted on 01/12/2011 12:32:22 PM PST by fogofbobegabay
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To: Libloather
Does anyone bear responsibility for failing to stop him?

Yes. Jared Loughner does. Why is what someone does always someone else's fault?

17 posted on 01/12/2011 12:32:35 PM PST by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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To: GladesGuru

“It is apparent at first glance, that if those people at that meeting had been armed,”

Some were, I think.


18 posted on 01/12/2011 12:32:43 PM PST by DBrow
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To: 5thGenTexan

I’ll go you one further.
He was a homo.
Political correctness forbids the association of homosexuality with mental illness.

Treating as mentally ill would violate this prohibition.


19 posted on 01/12/2011 12:34:15 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: DBrow

True. One has said he didn’t draw his gun because he could not be sure how the perp was.


20 posted on 01/12/2011 12:35:49 PM PST by DManA
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