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Palin and the Blood Libel
JWR - Jewish World Review ^ | Jan 13, 2011 | Jonathan Tobin

Posted on 01/13/2011 7:49:03 AM PST by MsLady

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To: MsLady

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They would be attacking anything she might have said. It’s what they do.


41 posted on 01/13/2011 8:48:16 AM PST by tumblindice (Any time you feel up to it, come and get them)
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To: beckett

I’m sorry, but your judgment of her is based on a basic misunderstanding of the term “blood libel”, which is NOT specifically reserved to the Jews. Others who used the term suffered no backlash, but she does, and therefore it is her fault?

I’m not sure there is any way for her to win, under the rules as you portray them.


42 posted on 01/13/2011 8:49:41 AM PST by MortMan (I am in no mood to be amused! (Ebenezer Scrooge))
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To: stansblugrassgrl

“Blood libel” refers to Jews killing, eating and sucking the blood of children in 12th century Spain. The charges were all lies, of course.

When you say Palin used the term in “EXACTLY the right context,” are you saying someone accused her of killing, eating, and sucking the blood of a child? Because that’s the only “correct context” for the term. Those who’ve used it differently over the past few weeks are simply ignorant of its history. Ignorance is commonplace in many quarters of society, but a dangerous failing in a leader, which is why Palin’s willingness to speak a term of which she is ignorant is so troubling.


43 posted on 01/13/2011 8:51:26 AM PST by beckett (Amor Fati)
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To: beckett
That's a tin ear. That's lack of judgement. And that's just another reason why this lady is nowhere near being ready — or capable — of leading this nation.

To the contrary: the usage was inspired! It perfectly captures the character of her critics!

It's hard to believe how she can hit it out of the park so consistently

44 posted on 01/13/2011 8:56:55 AM PST by papertyger
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To: beckett

Physician heal thyself of ignorance.

When you say “refers to” you are only correct insofar as “blood libel” is the name of the dishonest tactic....NOT the accusation the tactic employed.


45 posted on 01/13/2011 9:07:13 AM PST by papertyger
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To: Arm_Bears
Exactly! Who owns language or words for cryin out loud... If that's the case the Homosexuals STOLE the word GAY from Fred Flinstone... When you're with the Flintstones, have a yabba dabba doo time, a dabba doo time, we'll have a gay old time.
46 posted on 01/13/2011 9:12:10 AM PST by TaraP (An APPEASER is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last)
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To: beckett
Here’s another example of her lack of hardcore political experience. She never had to use the phrase that others had been using in her defense since the shooting. Let them take the flack. She should’ve risen above the fray. Instead she incorported a term fraught with meaning, both historical and religious, for Jews, and applied it to herself, a Christian.

I am Jewish and I found her usage appropriate. Your "concern" is most interesting.
47 posted on 01/13/2011 9:14:47 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media. There are Wars and Rumors of War.)
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To: PA Engineer
I am Jewish and I found her usage appropriate. Your "concern" is most interesting.

Don't you mean "disingenuous?" ;o)

48 posted on 01/13/2011 9:26:43 AM PST by papertyger
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To: beckett

She was accused of having innocent blood on her hands, that she was the one who was at fault for the killings. The charges are all lies, of course. No one has a patent on words. Is the word vendetta exclusive to Italians? History also changes the context of the words. If you are going to get upset by one offense, get upset by all. Why is the first public outcry I can remember relating the possible misuse of the term?

I do not believe that Sarah Palin intended to offend Jews by the combination of those two words. I’ll bet she is a stronger supporter of Israel then a lot of Jews in this country are. She wanted to convey a message, which she did, in my opinion, accurately. It doesn’t matter what she would have said or didn’t say. People who are offended by what she said were going to be offended no matter what two words she put together.


49 posted on 01/13/2011 9:42:58 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: Beelzebubba

Wouldn’t dream of it.


50 posted on 01/13/2011 9:50:25 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: stansblugrassgrl

Bottom line—Sarah’s not backing down and it’s driving the Left nuts.


51 posted on 01/13/2011 9:52:31 AM PST by Arm_Bears (I'll have what the gentleman on the floor is drinking.)
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To: stansblugrassgrl

The previous post is said with all due respect. My intention is not to offend, although I tend to do it quite often and with very little effort. I realize it might not be me, might be the sign of the times.

Several times in my life Jewish people I know, family included, have used their Jewishness against me. They’ve used it as an excuse to be offended. I’ve heard “you hate me because I’m Jewish” when trying to clear up a problem so many times in dealing with certain people. Sometimes, I didn’t know the individuals ethnic background until they said I hated them. Surprised the heck out of me.

I’ll probably get flamed for what I just said. It is my personal experience and, again, no offense is intended.
I’ve lost sympathy for those who cry “offense” that when a real offense does occur, it doesn’t mean anything any more.


52 posted on 01/13/2011 10:06:51 AM PST by stansblugrassgrl
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To: MsLady
CHRONOLOGY OF ANY EVENT:

1) Negative Event Occurs.
2) Immediately blame Sarah Palin.
3) Events unfold showing Sarah Palin not at fault, or even involved.
4) Blame Sarah Palin harder.
5) IF SARAH PALIN DOES NOT RESPOND: Declare her out-of-touch and non-Presidential.
6) IF SARAH PALIN RESPONDS MILDLY: Declare her wishy-washy and incapable of leadership.
7) IF SARAH PALIN RESPONDS FORCEFULLY: Declare her too provocative and incendiary.

53 posted on 01/13/2011 10:31:20 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: MsLady

In college they are getting bull%$#t in the name of a supposed education by people who are supposed to be trusted and revered for their so called wisdom.

I figure it takes kids years to get over college at times. maybe even a decade.


54 posted on 01/13/2011 11:44:42 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
I heard Rush saying once that if took the money you were going to spend on a college education. And instead put that money in a savings account/IRA ect. for retirement years. And went to work somewhere you could work your way up the ladder. You'd actually be better off.

You can learn anything you want to just by reading and doing. I've learned that over and over again in my life. I received advanced personal trainer certification back in the 90's. You were suppose to have a 2-4 year college degree in some medical field. I've never been to college. For about 15 some years I'd been bodybuilding and reading everything I could on nutrition, and the body how it works, like the krebs cycle how the muscle connect and work ect. I passed the test.

55 posted on 01/13/2011 1:22:07 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
You need college to qualify for some of the professions like doctor, lawyer, chemist, engineer, pharmacist and so forth.
If you can market yourself and have a skill rare enough to sell, then you wouldn't need college IMO.

Problems with college these days are that you degrees could be worth nothing.
Lets say you want to be in computer sciences or an engineer. Ends up they go out of the country and hire India's people at 30 cents on the dollar.

We are competing with the slave labor of China and other third world nations from around the world.
Our unions took it too far the other way and ended up closing our manufacturing base for the most part.

My wife is in college right now, we are both lucky to be working as well and I can't say it is easy to suggest a path for her to follow where she could be guaranteed employment.

I have all kinds of friends, one of them is a professor who is also a world class lawyer in the taxation field.
He teaches at a major University here in CA and has seen the class sizes of his tripled because of Democrats coming into power.

Interesting times, sometimes a degree and other times not. Tough to know for sure anything in these tough times IMO.

56 posted on 01/13/2011 2:08:35 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

Your right about the degree, sometimes not and sometimes you have to. It’s so darned expensive and so much garbage is taught. You really want to make sure your kids are well grounded before they go. My niece is a mess and it started in college. She still believes the drivel taught to her and it’s been 12 years since she left college.


57 posted on 01/13/2011 2:37:12 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady

I agree, the problem is no conservatives really went into teaching and media compared to all the liberals.


58 posted on 01/13/2011 9:59:09 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
Yea, I don't get that. We've had years in order to get into college's to teach, yet we haven't. Wonder if the college situation is so bad that many conservatives fear it, or just couldn't take the constant heat?

My sister in law worked for our local school system. She was a teachers aid. Most of the teachers were democrats, union and liberal in varying degrees. She was always uncomfortable. I told her once that maybe she was the only light in a dark place. It's true and I think it helped her cope.

59 posted on 01/14/2011 4:55:03 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
When I was finishing my undergraduate degree (History) I was discussing going on to grad school with one of my professors. He pulled me aside and asked me what I expected to do after grad school. I said that I might go into teaching. He shook his head. "You'll be wasting time and money, if that's why you go to grad school. No one will hire someone with your views. Word will get around. There's just no future in teaching for someone like you."

The guy was a Marxist, but he was honest and well-meaning. I changed my career aspirations on the spot.

60 posted on 01/14/2011 5:01:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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