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Tucson Assassin Was A Zeitgeistist, A What?
ChicoER Gate ^ | 1/13/10 | Chuck Wolk

Posted on 01/13/2011 9:45:31 AM PST by OneVike

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In my last post I told you that when Jared Loughner's former friend, Zach Osler, spoke to ABC's Ashleigh Banfield, he told her that Jared did not subscribe to the left or the right in politics.  The only problem with that is Zach then told her that Jarred was profoundly influenced by Zeitgeist documentary and that it really altered his mind-set on how he viewed the world. So then what exactly is this Zeitgeist all about?

Basically, the documentary, "Zeitgeist", is the propaganda arm of an organization called "The Venus Project". The Venus Project is a movement aimed at overcoming the supposed lack of sustainable communities for mankind on the planet. The Venus project was going to begin a transition into a new, sustainable social design based exclusively on strategic resource management as the starting point for all decisions. With the current financial troubles around the world, the project has stepped up it's effort to convince people that now is the time to begin seriously considering their concept of life for planet earth. That's what the documentary says, but in reality the "Venus Project" is a scam.

From what I have learned, the Venus Project very well may have started as a pie in the sky liberal idea by a hippie in the 60's.  A Social/Industrial Designer named Jacque Fresco thought he was going to save mankind and the planet by reforming the worlds economic system, as well as creating environmentally friendly communities similar the multitude of ill fated hippy communes of the 1960's. Now he claims to have ideas for biosphere type communities for mankind to live in.  Wow, that's original.  Well, like all leftists who eventually realize they need other peoples money to accomplish their Utopian ideas, Fresco never created a single community nor helped anyone realize a better life. That is except for himself and a few close associates.


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Something that Fresco has been able spread to others through his scam, is the ideas he spreads through his leftist cult. This cult is based upon the New World Order idealism, with a theosophical belief structure.  This is what the Zeitgeist movies are accomplishing, as seen in the mind of a certain assassin in Tucson. You can read more on the scam that is the Venus Project and the documentary used to create a cult at the links below.
   
Zeitgeist 2: Theosophy, Socialism, and The new NWO
Anticultists
EOS, (A similar leftist group who admits that the Venus Project is a cult.)

If you are still in the dark as to what exactly Zeitgeist is, consider that all you need to know to understand is that Karl Marx wrote about it. I know, many will be fooled into watching the movies and thus making the old man richer as he confuses more young minds full of mush that are looking for anything to believe in because the schools have taught them only believe in government.  So while many will think Zeitgeist is some kind of new age idea that promises a non political solution to help create a Utopian world? The truth is Zeitgeist is just Marxism that has been repackaged with a new name.

I do find it interesting that the Tucson shooter is now being said to not have had any political leanings. Yet the one event that seems to have profoundly influenced him is a repackaged communist movement. That means that the assassin who is now considered not to be affiliated with any party does in fact have common political beliefs with those on the left. So even if he is not registered to a leftist party for voting purposes, he does sympathize with them.

In the beginning when the news broke about the shooting we were inundated with the left attempting to convince the world that he was a right wing nut job who was pushed into what he did by the rhetoric on the right. Now that the story line is that he's an independent, those who have been trying to start a new movement called the "No Labels" party cannot be to happy. I guess we can safely say that Jarred Loughner could have been a charter member of the new "No Labels" party.

You know the about the "No Labels" party right? Well that's the new independent party that is being started to combat the Tea Party movement. Allow me to suggest a new campaign commercial for them to use in recruiting new party members.I have the trailer below for the "Venus Project's" third movie called, "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward". If their smart, they could register a lot of new members by setting up registration tables just outside the theaters this week. The movie is being released in over 60 countries and with over 20 languages beginning on January 15, 2011. The first of the three movies, "Zeitgeist: The Move", was released in 2007, with the second movie, "Zeitgeist: Addendum" released in 2008. The first two movies helped to twist Jarred's mind. We may will never know the truth, but maybe he thought that he needed to do something to help change things. You think that if he claims his religion demands that he sees the movie, that they'll give him a weekend furlough to go see it this weekend?

(Here is a link if you would like to see the trailer for the movie, "Zeitgeist: Moving Forward")



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; cults; giffords; jarredloughner; loughner; marxism; theosophy; tucsonmassacre; vanity; zeitgeist
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Just trying to get beyond the rhetoric, to learn the truth.
1 posted on 01/13/2011 9:45:34 AM PST by OneVike
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We are now being told by close friends of the Tucson assassin that he was neither a lefty nor a righty, but the facts speak differently. In my article, “Tucson Assassin Was A Zeitgeistist, A What?”, I shed a bit more light on the matter..........


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2 posted on 01/13/2011 9:46:38 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Right, because Marxism is not a leftist ideology, ya’ know!!!


3 posted on 01/13/2011 9:47:53 AM PST by Allthegoodusernamesaregone
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To: OneVike

Zei Gezunt.


4 posted on 01/13/2011 9:48:33 AM PST by Scanian
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To: OneVike
NorCal Blogs
5 posted on 01/13/2011 9:48:39 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: OneVike

Was ist ein “Zeitgeistist”?


6 posted on 01/13/2011 9:49:57 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: OneVike
I guess we can safely say that Jarred Loughner could have been a charter member of the new "No Labels" party.

EXCELLENT!

7 posted on 01/13/2011 9:51:30 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Was ist ein “Zeitgeistist”?

Ist anyone not zombied over by NWO hypnotism.

8 posted on 01/13/2011 9:53:49 AM PST by de.rm (Bang, bang, . . bang. Shhh=Bush, the elder, E. Howard Hunt, LBJ, Mrs, Edgar Hoover)
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To: OneVike
From the first movie's webpage:

Zeitgeist: Moving Forward, by director Peter Joseph, is a feature length documentary work which will present a case for a needed transition out of the current socioeconomic monetary paradigm which governs the entire world society.

This subject matter will transcend the issues of cultural relativism and traditional ideology and move to relate the core, empirical "life ground" attributes of human and social survival, extrapolating those immutable natural laws into a new sustainable social paradigm called a "Resource-Based Economy".

9 posted on 01/13/2011 9:54:43 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: de.rm

Only those on the left are falling for it, and the more they fall for the many different labels, the more they will marginalize themselves.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 9:56:08 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: de.rm

Was ist richtige anworten fur “Zeitgeist”?

RAUS!


11 posted on 01/13/2011 9:57:41 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: OneVike
DIRECTOR’S NOTE: Zeitgeist: The Movie - Part 1: “The Greatest Story Ever Told” presents historical data relating to the astronomical/ astrological origins of the Judeo-Christian theology (which can be extended to Islam as well), along with the understanding that these respective stories, beliefs & traditions are really an adaptation-extension of prior Pagan beliefs. In other words, evidence shows that these modern religions are really composites of earlier religions with their stories and symbolisms “borrowed” as the new traditions evolved. Of course, believers of theistic religions have a inherent, self-preserving interest to disagree with such a notion, for it brings their religion out of the context of the supernatural and novel - and into the content of a singular, serial intellectual evolution of information where all religions begin to share a common symbolic and literary basis. From such a perspective, naturally, the idea that “Jesus” or “Osiris” or “Dionysis” were real, supernatural figures of a larger order metaphysic becomes a distant reality. Regardless, this section isn’t really about whether “God” exists or any such issue - it is about the firm reality that religions have been borrowing and building upon each other, while the central origin of these theologies always comes back to stellar and solar fascination.

KOOK!

12 posted on 01/13/2011 9:57:44 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: frogjerk

In layman’s terms, MARXISM for our age!


13 posted on 01/13/2011 9:58:54 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: frogjerk

Actually a very rich 90 plus year old hippie that got wealthy creating a leftist group which is now a cult.

Any wonder this nut in Tucson went off the deep end?


14 posted on 01/13/2011 10:02:17 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

This is an extremely anti-religious and anti-Catholic movement from what I am reading in the companion guide. Typical B.S. akin to the “16 Crucified saviors” and Mythras crap.


15 posted on 01/13/2011 10:02:24 AM PST by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: OneVike

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From Wikipedia, with references at site:

"In 1951, [Reverend Jim] Jones (Jonestown) began attending communist meetings and rallies in Indianapolis.[4] Jones became flustered at harassment he received during the McCarthy Hearings,[4] particularly, regarding meetings between Jones and his mother with Paul Robeson.[5] This, among other things, provoked a seminal moment for Jones where he asked himself "how can I demonstrate my Marxism? The thought was, infiltrate the church."[5][4]"

"In the summer of 1977, Jones and most of the 900 members of the People's Temple moved to Guyana from San Francisco after media pressure built.[25] Jones left the same night that an editor at New West magazine read Jones an article by Marshall Kilduff to be published detailing allegations by former Temple members.[25][16] Jones named the settlement Jonestown after himself.

Jones purported to establish Jonestown as a benevolent model communist community stating, 'I believe we’re the purest communists there are.' [26] Jones' wife, Marceline, described Jonestown as "dedicated to live for socialism, total economic and racial and social equality. We are here living communally."[26] Jones wanted to construct a model community to show others and stated that Prime Minister of Guyana Forbes Burnham 'couldn’t rave enough about us, uh, the wonderful things we do, the project, the model of socialism.'[27] In that regard, like the restrictive emigration policies of the then Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea and other communist republics, Jones did not permit members to leave Jonestown.[28]

Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (often misidentified as Kool-Aid) along with a sedative.[39]

One member, Christine Miller, dissents toward the beginning of the tape.[39] When members apparently cried, Jones counseled "Stop this hysterics. This is not the way for people who are Socialists or Communists to die. No way for us to die. We must die with some dignity."[39] Jones can be heard saying, "Don't be afraid to die" and, regarding death as "just stepping over into another plane" and that "[death is] a friend."[39] At the end of the tape, Jones concludes: "We didn't commit suicide, we committed an act of revolutionary suicide protesting the conditions of an inhumane world."[39] Children were given the drink first and families were told to lie down together. The mass suicide had been discussed in simulated events called "White Nights" on a regular basis, while members drank liquid Jones first told them was poison during at least one of those White Nights.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones

16 posted on 01/13/2011 10:02:59 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike

BTW, Thanks! Somehow I missed this.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 10:03:52 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike; icwhatudo
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The Last Honest Liberal-Caitie Parker (Friend of AZ Shooter)
Multiple including twitter interview by Freeper ^ | 1-9-11 | Icwhatudo

Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:32:27 AM by icwhatudo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2653697/posts
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Here are Caitie Parker's original responses to 3 different Twitter posters (the 'at' symbol @ = To: _______ )

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18 posted on 01/13/2011 10:06:07 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike

I spent an hour (long car ride) last summer discussing this Zeitgeist crap with a friend’s 22 year old son, and explaining why it was lunatic fringe stuff.


19 posted on 01/13/2011 10:07:15 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: OneVike; icwhatudo
Here's a screen grab from the Huffington Post. Note that two of the lunatic's favorite reads is THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO and MEIN KAMPF. The Nazis were of course also socialist. The Communist Soviet Union and the Nazis were allies before Hitler turned on them.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle-giffords-shooter_n_806243.html

20 posted on 01/13/2011 10:08:01 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

Welcome. I am really surprised rush has not mentioned it other than in a brief passing comment.


21 posted on 01/13/2011 10:08:07 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: frogjerk
KOOK!

Can you name one far lefty who ISN'T a kook?

22 posted on 01/13/2011 10:09:57 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09
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"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==
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From American Thinker, September 16, 2008
Article: Obama's Foul Weather Friends
By Scott Swett and Roger Canfield

"As a gesture of solidarity, the Vietnamese who [Bernardine] Dohrn met in Budapest presented her with a ring made from an American aircraft shot down over North Vietnam. Bill Ayers would receive a similar ring while meeting with Vietnamese communists in Toronto. He later recalled being so moved by the gesture that he 'left the room to cry.' "

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obamas_foul_weather_friends.html
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From the Chicago Sun Times, November 13, 2008:

Ayers: Obama was 'family friend'
New afterword to 2001 book, Ayers describes Barack Obama as 'family friend'

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1278532,bill-ayers-barack-obama-book-111308.article#

23 posted on 01/13/2011 10:11:10 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike

Just saw this:

http://www.slate.com/BLOGS/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/01/13/zeitgeist-the-conspiracy-film-that-possibly-inspired-loughner.aspx


24 posted on 01/13/2011 10:14:56 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Not under the influence of Hope-nosis.)
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To: OneVike

Another Marxist connection:

Is ‘shadow group’ stalking Giffords?
Radical Marxists from Spain mimic Loughner’s identity

Read more: Shadow group now stalking Giffords http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=250445#ixzz1AwHqIhbM


25 posted on 01/13/2011 10:15:45 AM PST by TheBigIf
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To: ETL

Seriously, how many of those books do you think this guy actually read? Half of it’s a high school english class list, and I’ll eat my hat if he actually waded through Mein Kampf, the Communist Manifesto or Plato’s Republic. It’s the list of an idiot trying to look like he’s deep..


26 posted on 01/13/2011 10:17:45 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: OneVike

About a year ago I had heard of this movie and was intrigued by the comments about it. I searched for it and found it for free on Yahoo video’s and downloaded it. I made about 7 minutes and needed another barf bag as my first grocery bag was filled to the brim. I physically couldn’t stomach it. I stopped it and resolved to watch more later, but finally had to free up some disk space and in the trash it went. If this guy was “changed” by this movie, he was truly a sick individual. He had no grasp on reality.


27 posted on 01/13/2011 10:29:59 AM PST by chuckles
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To: OneVike

Well, one would like to think he was into comic strips from the old National Lampoon, but sadly, no.


28 posted on 01/13/2011 10:31:22 AM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: ETL
So this guy lists "Mein Kampf" as one of his favorite books and then shoots a Jewish congresswoman?

Hmmmmmmm............

29 posted on 01/13/2011 10:31:40 AM PST by Species8472 (The right to be left alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom)
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To: OneVike

Psilocybin mushrooms and Marxism.
What a combination.


30 posted on 01/13/2011 10:33:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I knew this yesterday and worked on my article all night and then posted it on my site this morning at 6:00. Then I posted the whole article here, and I am being accused of being nothing but a blog pimp.

I ask you, do you need to even go to my site to learn anything about this? Nope, but sadly i have received numerous personal freepmails calling me a blog pimp, for posting this.

Yet, I even beat Slate to the angle. In the last few Months I have beat major news outlets with stories and even some big conservative bloggers that many freepers hold in high esteem.

Sorry, nothing personal against you, but I am just a little irritated after a few Freepmails I just read.


31 posted on 01/13/2011 10:35:45 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
...worked on my article all night and then posted it on my site this morning at 6:00. Then I posted the whole article here, and I am being accused of being nothing but a blog pimp.

A blog pimp?? How ridiculous. You just posted the whole thing here. And it was an outstanding piece. Thanks for your time and energy. Some of us appreciate it.

32 posted on 01/13/2011 10:42:07 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike

No problem. I just happened to see it posted in Google search and added it to your thread. I meant nothing by it.

I’m just glad you are educating us about this. I have seen ‘Zeitgeist’ talked about on the internet and never bothered to research it....until now.

Thanks for keeping us informed! :-)


33 posted on 01/13/2011 10:43:22 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Not under the influence of Hope-nosis.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Sorry. Wish I had waited another 30 secs before posting. :)


34 posted on 01/13/2011 10:44:54 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike
I am really surprised rush has not mentioned it other than in a brief passing comment.

There are LOTS of things Rush, Hannity, Levin and many other commentators miss or don't properly point out or emphasize. Thanks again for providing the info here. I still haven't gotten around to actually reading it yet. :)

35 posted on 01/13/2011 10:50:28 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; ETL

No, I appreciate what you posted.

It actually made me feel better to learn I beat another big well respected blogger.

I was just pissed at the freepmail when I responded. Usually I try to keep the anger to myself, but it slipped into my comment to you.

I need to remember to step back and wait awhile after reading some freepmails I receive before commenting on articles.

I used to post just excerpts, but then decided to post my full posts to curtail the attacks. But now they just personally freep me with their condemnation.

Anyway, I am glad you posted the link, it shows how I am on the cutting edge I guess.


36 posted on 01/13/2011 10:52:09 AM PST by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

Nice research. Ignore the idiots.


37 posted on 01/13/2011 10:53:57 AM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: OneVike

No probs, babes!!!!! Keep up the great work!!!!!


38 posted on 01/13/2011 10:57:25 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Not under the influence of Hope-nosis.)
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To: OneVike

So, he was a tinfoil-hatter. Big surprise there.


39 posted on 01/13/2011 11:28:05 AM PST by arderkrag (Georgia is God's Country.----------In the same way Rush is balance, I am consensus.)
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To: OneVike

bump


40 posted on 01/13/2011 12:14:27 PM PST by TheOldLady ("...Communists in Congress, and Islamics everywhere, are showing who they truly are." - Lazamataz)
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To: OneVike

In short, New World Order.


41 posted on 01/13/2011 2:10:20 PM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: OneVike
Poltergeist is more like it...
42 posted on 01/13/2011 2:44:52 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: OneVike; ETL
OV. Great post. Now where getting to the bottom of where the killer's brain really was at.
ETL. Perhaps in due time you might want to add the new book Stanley Kurtz had published a few months back titled:
RADICAL-IN-CHIEF. It is great for details on so many shown in your profile page, have interacted over the years with the Kenyan.
43 posted on 01/13/2011 7:03:53 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: OneVike
Sure sounds like global governance Marxism to me.

Concepts advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement

* Management of the Earth's Natural Resources: Once surveyed, the Earth's natural resources will no longer be privately owned. They will be managed according to general sustainability principles of preservation, recycling and optimization.

* No Money, Barter, Trade or Property: The monetary value of commodities does not represent the actual physical supply of natural resources, or their utilitarian value, which is integral to the success of the type of sustainable global society that the Zeitgeist Movement advocates. Income is a requirement for individuals to sustain life in a monetary system, so this in turn creates the need for commodities to be continuously bought and sold and for goods to be continuously produced, in order to make sure that the operation of social functions is maintained. This, combined with competition over market share, creates an abundance of goods that usually exceeds the demand for them, which in turn depletes natural resources and may create excessive waste.

Furthermore, the profit motive inherent in a monetary system, creates an incentive to increase profits regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment. When labor is displaced or outsourced, it either removes a laborer's source of sustenance, or takes advantage of inexpensive laborers. Certain manufacturers and corporations have been noted to contaminate the environment by dumping their by-products and waste materials, instead of disposing of them properly, in order to save money. Other manufacturers have been known to take advantage of a process called planned obsolescence in order to increase sales of their products over time. With universal access to goods and services provided by a sustainable means of production based on resource availability, optimization and preservation, these problems of a monetary economy can be overcome.

* Automation: Machine automation is more productive than human labor and replaces the need for people to perform repetitive and tedious tasks.

* Technological Unification of the Earth: Globally networked technological infrastructure is required to monitor planetary resources in real time, and theoretically make the most efficient use of them in solving planetary problems.

* Scientific Methodology: Decision making regarding the methods of production, what goods and services are to be provided, city planning and resource optimization, preservation and recycling will be arrived at by analysing relevant trends and data, via use of the scientific method.

* Sustainable City Systems: Utilizing a systemic approach for a sustainable global society, city systems may act as microcosm to the global network of technological infrastructure. The city system can incorporate all manufacturing, goods and services that people will use on a daily basis within the city limits. The city system may also utilize a cybernetic central computer to monitor energy and resource supply, usage and other relevant data in real time, relaying this information to other city systems that make up the macrocosm of the technologically unified globe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

44 posted on 01/13/2011 7:10:52 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Thanks, I’ll check it out.


45 posted on 01/13/2011 7:17:39 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
explaining why it was lunatic fringe stuff.

Can't really call it "lunatic fringe" when it's precisely what the "new world order" movement is about. It's global governance, international socialism. It's the type of global society Obama and his comrades here and abroad seek.

46 posted on 01/13/2011 7:24:38 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

For me it was the purchase. Very long and detailed.


47 posted on 01/13/2011 7:26:39 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

Maybe “precisely” was too strong a word. But it’s damn close to it.


48 posted on 01/13/2011 7:27:53 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: OneVike
Thank you for this well written educational post. I did not feel like I needed to go to your blog since you posted all here, but I think now I must. Then I will hit it from all 4 of the computers in my house and the 4 at work. In case it is helpful, I will erase cookies and start over again. Hmmm....I don't have a smart phone but all of my kids have them. I intended to send them all links to FR article but I think I will send them direct links to your blog.
49 posted on 01/13/2011 7:41:34 PM PST by GILTN1stborn
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"Then begins an era of social revolution. The changes in the economic foundation lead, sooner or later, to the transformation of the whole, immense, superstructure.

In studying such transformations, it is always necessary to distinguish between the material transformation of the economic conditions of production, which can be determined with the precision of natural science, and the legal, political, religious, artistic, or philosophic — in short, ideological forms in which men become conscious of this conflict and fight it out."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_materialism

50 posted on 01/13/2011 7:47:39 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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