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How Can America “Thrive” with a Liar and Fraudster in the Office of the Presidency?
The Post and Email Blog ^ | Jan. 13, 2011 | Comment Left by a Reader

Posted on 01/13/2011 10:16:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

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To: Las Vegas Ron

Kudos to you Ron...by the way my Dad lives out in the Summerlin area. Big Packers fan, so he enjoyed Green Bay kicking my hometown Falcons butt last night.


601 posted on 01/16/2011 11:42:19 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; Hotlanta Mike

Thank you, LVR. I’m far from as knowledgeable as you and so many others. I’m learning as fast as I can, and the information is just mind-boggling. I appreciate everyone who answers my questions, and who posts such amazingly well-researched and informative information; reading these threads is like taking a college class in history and the Constitution all rolled into one. I feel like I should pay admission.

HM, the situation with Chester Arthur was similar to what we have today. Patriots went all out trying to uncover the facts behind his shady personal ‘history’. CA went all out to cover his tracks. There was no internet, and his relentless lying made him hard to run to ground. The fact is, his father was a British citizen at the time of his birth, and he was NOT eligible. Period.


602 posted on 01/16/2011 11:51:30 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: melancholy

Good job, melancholy! I wonder when the *afternoon shift* will show up?


603 posted on 01/16/2011 11:52:34 AM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Summerlin's a nice area to live in...I've sure had some good times in Atlanta back in the day....business trips {;^)
604 posted on 01/16/2011 11:58:51 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; TNTNT

Obamao claims he is a Native Citizen, you know the third kind?


And the hilarity is that the declaration is still up on Obamas’s Fight the Smears website.

“The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.”

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

Marxists use language to blur the boundaries of truth. Native born does not natural born mean.


605 posted on 01/16/2011 11:59:36 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You mean TNT the pantywaist bomber?

Or another one? Just checking in today.

Does seem as though the 0h0m0 suckups are taking a vacation. Regrouping? Memorizing new scripts?


606 posted on 01/16/2011 12:03:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fantasywriter
Au contraire, I've learned from your writings too.

In case you missed this thread, some of the posters research and posting are truly amazing.

It's long, entertaining and an adventure into history.....troll rich too

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2450158/posts

607 posted on 01/16/2011 12:07:30 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: azishot

Liberals are lazy, dont’cha know?

Until 0h0m0 wakes up, goes to the WH gym for his daily pounding fro Reggie, “cheeks” with Wookie and Jarret to receive the orders of the day and transmit his given orders to the communist thugs, the delay is understandable.


608 posted on 01/16/2011 12:08:33 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: little jeremiah

You mean TNT the pantywaist bomber?

Or another one? Just checking in today.

Does seem as though the 0h0m0 suckups are taking a vacation. Regrouping? Memorizing new scripts?


They were outed with the Examiner investigation into threats from the marxists posing as conservatives on the eligibility threads. They’re having their Latte Party now and discussing strategy and tactics including the use of new poster IDs.


609 posted on 01/16/2011 12:12:31 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: little jeremiah
You mean TNT the pantywaist bomber?

LOL, dat be the won I's be referencing!

610 posted on 01/16/2011 12:17:46 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: azishot
Howdy azishot!
611 posted on 01/16/2011 12:20:01 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Fantasywriter

Thanks, FW.

You posted a great summary for Nitroglycerin’s boogie dancing posts!

Signed:

Ronald W. Reagan himself

PS. from behind a keyboard, everything is possible!


612 posted on 01/16/2011 12:23:12 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
“The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America.”

Crap, I meant to ping you to this too, #607 on this thread....

613 posted on 01/16/2011 12:24:06 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
It's long, entertaining and an adventure into history.....troll rich too

An old EnderWiggins troll thread. LoL.

In the same mold as the hyper Obot-troll EnderWiggins was Koyaan who admitted to DR. CON's website that he also played hyper-rat troll Michael Michael.

Retreads galore.


Banned troll Koyaan



The Retread troll admits he had/has 4 or 5 FR accounts.

614 posted on 01/16/2011 12:27:44 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: IbJensen
with his crew of nation-wreckers using up all the toilet paper and what’s left of the Constitution to wipe their lying asses!

Can you prove that the communists ever wipe their asses? Do you have a link? LOL

615 posted on 01/16/2011 12:27:49 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

You are very kind. I looked at the thread you linked—it fascinates me, and appears to contain a treasure trove of facts, history and analysis. But oh my cow, 1,326 posts? I’ll have to pace myself, and work through fifty a day, or something. But many thanks for the link!


616 posted on 01/16/2011 12:30:14 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: melancholy

Most of the time I just skip over their posts. Sometimes I enjoy reading the ongoing debates they have with FReepers, who’s debating skills are much better than mine.

If you ask them why we haven’t seen copies of BO’s transcripts they answer why it’s so important for us to see them. Huh? Answering an honest question with a question??


617 posted on 01/16/2011 12:30:21 PM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Red Steel
Heehee, you were on that thread too weren't ya?

That was one of the best yet!

618 posted on 01/16/2011 12:30:57 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: melancholy

You have one of the best and greatest senses of humor on FR. Thanks for some riotously good laughs!


619 posted on 01/16/2011 12:33:06 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Heehee, you were on that thread too weren't ya?

Yup, sticking it to the troll-bot. :^)

620 posted on 01/16/2011 12:38:52 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Fantasywriter; Lazamataz
You have one of the best and greatest senses of humor on FR. Thanks for some riotously good laughs!

Why, thank you, FW!

Let's not forget the supreme boss of laughs on FR, laz!

If laz were a woman, I would hit her!

621 posted on 01/16/2011 12:40:53 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Fantasywriter
You are so welcome...FR is truly an amazing collection of posters who have so much to offer and contribute phenomenal historical discoveries.

This place should be a part of the public screwell curriculum.

622 posted on 01/16/2011 12:41:33 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Red Steel

From Michael Michael to TNTNT...


623 posted on 01/16/2011 12:43:22 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Agreed! When the truth comes out and Obama resigns or is tossed out of office in shame, FreeRepublic will be noted as one of the driving forces that brought him down.


624 posted on 01/16/2011 12:44:41 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: melancholy; Lazamataz
If laz were a woman, I would hit her!

So would I!

Right up side the head

625 posted on 01/16/2011 12:51:18 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Red Steel
I have discovered that you must be a slow learner. I took you to school a couple of days ago on this very issue. My proposal Is about a certified copy of one’s BC, not other documentation. You realize the State Dept. refuses to accept some BC’s to get a passport. Only those BC’s that are accepted by the State Dept. to receive a passport would be acceptable for POTUS ballot access. It makes for a very objective national standard that is easy to understand for everyone. The feedback I have received from fellow Freepers has very positive to my proposal.

Now where is your proposal for an eligibility law? I have heard nothing. Where's the beef??

626 posted on 01/16/2011 1:02:58 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: grey_whiskers

Congrats!! That is quite an achievement, you should be very proud.


627 posted on 01/16/2011 1:06:07 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: bushpilot1
Are you saying Scotus is going to base their opinion on a law review article from 1904 in the Albany Law Journal?? ROTFLOL
628 posted on 01/16/2011 1:10:02 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT; Red Steel
I took you to school a couple of days ago on this very issue.

ROTFLMGO! LOL!

chuckle... snicker... TNT the pantywasist bomber, are you by any chance interested in ... conscious/conscience dreaming, hmm? Or hypnosis? A couple of your soulmates are.

629 posted on 01/16/2011 1:12:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: TNTNT; Red Steel

The reason I ask is because it’s apparently you are living in an “alternate reality”.

:-)


630 posted on 01/16/2011 1:13:37 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: azishot; Las Vegas Ron; Red Steel; Fantasywriter; little jeremiah; LucyT
If you ask them why we haven’t seen copies of BO’s transcripts they answer why it’s so important for us to see them. Huh? Answering an honest question with a question??

They have no argument or legalese on the question of education records when they are pounded enough on it!

Following the great communist ghoul manual of Papa Alinsky, distraction, ridicule, mind "boogling" straw men and pushing for personal attacks in retaliation will seal the deal for them by claiming civility.

Yeah, right, communist and fascist "civility" means one thing; kill as many civilians as possible. It's all there in history!

If I were in charge with absolute power for just six months, I would definitely help the communists out by giving them and ONLY them mind you, the utopia they long for!

The communist billionaires enslave populations for the cause that they never apply to themselves. I would help them out when they dare "demand higher taxes, yeah you can take from me and give the poor!" I'll not ask them, why don't you send checks to the IRS? Nope, I'll confiscate their wealth and spread it around, instantly! If they complain, they'll be treated as counter-revolutionary and traitors, spread them to jail and lunatic asylums without due process because there will be no courts, no Congress and no steeenkin’ Constitution that they shredded!

The rich, elite communists push for it in a free country, but they'll never go live and Cuba, NK or China, or even Russia and work in a factory everyday as one of their highly touted workers!

Just six months is all what’s needed to clean it up, outlaw the “thought” of communism or whatever the name du jour is, and give it back to the hard-working American patriots!

631 posted on 01/16/2011 1:17:02 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: melancholy
IF I was hired by birthers, the first thing I would do make sure my client had standing to bring the suit. The birther lawyers thus far have been uniformly unable to find anybody or any entity that can even get beyond a Rule 12 Motion to Dismiss. After they figure that out, then they can worry about eligibility.
632 posted on 01/16/2011 1:24:06 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: melancholy

Run for office.


633 posted on 01/16/2011 1:25:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: wintertime
Tell me the name of a single Legislator or Judge who has even subpoened or formally requested a certified copy of Obama’s BC from Hawaii? Until the birthers get someone with authority to take those actions, What you say is a total non-sequitor.
634 posted on 01/16/2011 1:30:45 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: melancholy

You have my vote.


635 posted on 01/16/2011 1:33:04 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: TNTNT
My proposal Is about a certified copy of one’s BC, not other documentation.

Why do you lie so much? A certified copy of a long form birth certificate is needed not some abstract shortened form abstract of it. Jus soli US births are not the only criteria to meet who would be natural born citizens. Your proposal is hogwash that attempts to give Obama a pass.

And it is so easy to post what you have said. Here you say you would take the same standards of evidence for someone who is issued a US passport to be placed onto a presidential state ballot:


Dud Bomb BS passport obfuscation

BTW, there is no such thing as "passport BC." It is something that you made up. All you do is obfuscate and BS. The State Department takes many forms of evidence to get a passport as I showed you in post #572.

Only those BC’s that are accepted by the State Dept. to receive a passport would be acceptable for POTUS ballot access.

So troll-bot, how can you tell which criteria of evidence was used for a passport applicant who seeks to be put on a state presidential ballot? The passport is not going to state what evidence was used to get it for a presidential candidate? LoL. You're still on the snide troll-bot.

Now where is your proposal for an eligibility law? I have heard nothing. Where's the beef??

There are state reps to do that butt-brain. Berman's original proposal was good but you crapped all over it and cheered on the weaker version.

636 posted on 01/16/2011 1:43:08 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: little jeremiah
The reason I ask is because it’s apparently you are living in an “alternate reality”.

Dud-bot lives in the world of Bullcrap.

637 posted on 01/16/2011 1:44:33 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: TNTNT
IF I was hired by birthers, the first thing I would do make sure my client had standing to bring the suit. The birther lawyers thus far have been uniformly unable to find anybody or any entity that can even get beyond a Rule 12 Motion to Dismiss.

I would suggest to as my lawyer, God forbid, Rule 17 Motion to Prosecute as American citizens who have standing anytime and anywhere in the USA!

You are "boogling" and boogie-ing again. Here goes: Read my lips and answer slowly Mr. Nitrocellulose, If your "birther" clients have standings, would you subpoena the original BC (I almost wrote BS!) and education records that may show foreign student status, etc. OR NOT, and WHY? How do you intend to WIN the case for your paying clients?

Now, "I don't answer a hypothetical" IS NOT an acceptable answer, got it?

My logic is clear and not mind "boogling," Right?

You have two alternatives: answer the questions or boogie. If you boogie then you can boogle your answer in your pipe and smoke it!

638 posted on 01/16/2011 1:46:38 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: melancholy
I'll not ask them, why don't you send checks to the IRS? Nope, I'll confiscate their wealth and spread it around, instantly!

Good one! I remember hearing Hannity ask a dem WHY he didn't include more $$ when he filled out his taxes. The answer was, well, the typical non-answer. As far as I know, it's perfectly legal to pay more to the IRS. Put your money where your dem. mouth is and do it! And then show us where you've reduced your own fortunes to $75,000.

639 posted on 01/16/2011 1:50:18 PM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Obama has responded to every law suit to which he is a party to, as any rational person would do when sued. All of responses have a Rule 12 Motion to Dismiss, a somewhat boilerplate pleading.

I don't know why Obama has not filed an answer to the lawsuit you link, but my educated guess is that the pro se plaintiffs have not properly served him and from the article it appears they do not realize that requirement. IIRC, Taitz couldn't figure out how to serve Obama in one of her suits and the Judge stepped in and got the service done 8 months later. It appears the Judge in this may not have the patience of Judge Carter in the Taitz case. We will see what happens.

The ‘grandfather clause’ was placed in the Constitution because nobody would have been able to qualify for office the first 35 years after the ratification of the Constitution. It is real simple and had nothing to do with the crackpot theory bantered about on these birther threads.

640 posted on 01/16/2011 1:50:41 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: Fantasywriter; little jeremiah

Thank you both! Wow, watch what you wish for!

I may enjoy being a dictator for six months, who knows, I may enjoy it and become Dictator-For-Life!

I’ll tell you what, I’m willing to advise whoever wants the job of cleaning up!


641 posted on 01/16/2011 1:53:38 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Since the ratification of the 14th Amendment there have only been two types of citizenship, natural born and naturalized. The Terms ‘Natural Born’ and ‘Native Born’ have been used interchangably by ALL courts, including SCOTUS, for over the past century. They are synonymous legal terms and have been used as such. There is no third kind. Hopefully you will not make this same mistake again.
642 posted on 01/16/2011 2:03:45 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: Red Steel

Please. Don’t insult good honest cow manure that makes great fertilizer!

;-)

Dog leavings are more appropriate, so much more repulsive and useless! Parasites and stuff!


643 posted on 01/16/2011 2:04:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Since I was mentioned in in your post, I felt I should respond. I was alive when Spiro Agnew ran for VP and voted for him. Yes it was fairly common knowledge that Agnew was a dual citizen of Greece and the U.S. I had a Greek friend who was very proud of that fact, and that is why I remember it. The Nixon campaign made a major outreach to the Greek-American community based upon that fact. No one even raised his citizenship status as an issue because Agnew was born in the USA and was thus a NBC.
644 posted on 01/16/2011 2:13:58 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: melancholy
If laz were a woman, I would hit her!

That's close minded and homophobic.

Hit me anyway.

645 posted on 01/16/2011 2:15:58 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
That's close minded and homophobic.

Hit me anyway.

LOL!

Is that you, 0h0m0? Laz, what happened to you? That's what 0b0z0 tells Reggie all the time!

646 posted on 01/16/2011 2:21:33 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: little jeremiah
When you are in birther fantasyland, the real world looks like an ‘alternate reality’.
647 posted on 01/16/2011 2:21:46 PM PST by TNTNT
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To: TNTNT
Since the ratification of the 14th Amendment there have only been two types of citizenship, natural born and naturalized. The Terms ‘Natural Born’ and ‘Native Born’ have been used interchangably by ALL courts, including SCOTUS, for over the past century. They are synonymous legal terms and have been used as such. There is no third kind.

Arrogant little obot noob, aren't you?

You just negated your entire argument and admitted that Natural Born is the same as Native born...i.e., two parents that are Citizens. That makes obamao ineligible by your own admission and the 14th, so say you.

Get lost obot, YOU just made a big mistake.

648 posted on 01/16/2011 2:21:49 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

A big mistake it is!

I’m still waiting for an explosive acceptance of my case!


649 posted on 01/16/2011 2:26:46 PM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: melancholy
Laz, what happened to you?

I'd hit a snake if someone would remove the fangs.

650 posted on 01/16/2011 2:28:13 PM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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