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Couple Aborts Twin Boys Because They Want a Girl Using IVF
politics daily ^ | 01.09.11 | David Gibson

Posted on 01/13/2011 10:23:00 AM PST by Coleus

The story of an Australian couple who aborted twin boys because they want to use IVF to ensure they have a daughter is attracting a lot of attention, especially among pro-lifers, and understandably so since the case seems to foreshadow an ethics-free future of eugenics.  But the couple, who want a girl to replace the infant daughter they recently lost, is so far still barred by Australian law from pursuing their quest for a female baby. The state of Victoria, where the unnamed couple lives, does not allow sex selection using IVF unless it is done to avoid the risk of the baby's inheriting a genetic abnormality or disease.

An independent group, known as the Patient Review Panel, recently rejected the couple's bid, so they are taking their case to the next level, the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal, which is to hear their arguments in March.  "After what we have been through we are due for a bit of luck. We want to be given the opportunity to have a girl," said the man. The couple already have three sons.  According to the Herald-Sun newspaper of Melbourne, which interviewed the couple, the woman, who is in her thirties, is "consumed by grief over the daughter who died soon after birth" and admits she has "become obsessed with having a daughter and it has become vital to her psychological health."

The husband told the newspaper that it was the couple's "right" to try this route. "It's ridiculous that sex selection is illegal, actually. For certain circumstances it should be legalized."  An Australian pioneer in IVF, Gab Kovacs, agreed. "I can't see how it could possibly harm anyone," he said.  "Laws should be made to protect people from things that are going to damage them. Why should we make this illegal? Who is this going to harm if this couple have their desire fulfilled?"  The couple told the Herald-Sun that if they lose their appeal they will go to the United States to conceive a girl. Unlike Australia and much of Europe, the U.S. does not regulate sex selection in embryos developed for IVF procedures, so couples from many countries come here to conceive.

If the couple does come to the United States, they could expect to generate as much notice as they have in Australia, even if what they want is not illegal.  When a prominent fertility clinic in California announced in 2009 that it would help prospective parents choose physical traits -- hair and eye color, for example -- as well as the gender of their child, it prompted so much outrage that the clinic was forced to put its plans on hold.  Sex-selective abortions also take place in some places in the United States, though the vast majority of Americans reject the practice as unethical, and because the procedure is often used to destroy female fetuses and preserves males.  That the Australia couple targeted their fetuses because they were boys certainly hasn't mollified American pro-life activists.

"[I]n a world where the IVF and sex-selection are technologically possible, the providence of God is not trusted, and laws pertaining to bioethics come to be based on what's possible rather than what's right, such battles are inevitable," Tom Crowe wrote at the web site of the conservative political lobby, CatholicVote.org.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; bioethics; ivf; proaborts; sexselection

1 posted on 01/13/2011 10:23:03 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

The three surviving sons will be left feeling unloved by a mother who rid herself of their brothers because she only wants daughters.

Sick.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 10:27:53 AM PST by Mrs.Z
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To: wagglebee

ping


3 posted on 01/13/2011 10:29:15 AM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: Coleus
This is so evil. But pro-abortionists will push for this couple to pursue this path because the woman wants a daughter. Ignoring that in the history of IVF, many more female babies are aborted because couples want a son, esp. in Asian cultures. This will open the door to continued tragedy. Oh, how many couples would love to adopt those twin sons.
4 posted on 01/13/2011 10:30:11 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: Coleus

God will have a conversation with them. Later.


5 posted on 01/13/2011 10:30:19 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Social before Birth: Twins First Interact with Each Other as Fetuses
6 posted on 01/13/2011 10:31:04 AM PST by Coleus
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To: Mrs.Z
The three surviving sons will be left feeling unloved by a mother who rid herself of their brothers because she only wants daughters.

And if she DOES get a daughter out of this, how will the daughter feel knowing that her mother had her brothers killed to make room for her?

7 posted on 01/13/2011 10:32:23 AM PST by nina0113
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To: ClearCase_guy
Yes, that couple will answer to God. Those aborted twin boys, unwanted on earth, are now in the arms of Jesus, safe under his everlasting care.
8 posted on 01/13/2011 10:34:06 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: nina0113
Why am I thinking of old Twilight Zone episodes where a person can choose how they want medical science to remake them - blond, blue-eyed, thin and 'perfect'?
9 posted on 01/13/2011 10:36:53 AM PST by Ciexyz
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10 posted on 01/13/2011 10:37:43 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Coleus

“replace” ?!

These people need serious help.
But, they’ve waived their right to be parents.
I hope God withers her womb.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 10:37:58 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Coleus

That’s seriously sick. Oh the baby isn’t going to have blue eyes? But, I so wanted a baby with blue eyes, think I’ll have an abortion. Ya know, the generation that has legal abortion, will also be taking care of us when we are old. Watcha think there answers going to be when grandma gets sick?


12 posted on 01/13/2011 10:40:56 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Coleus
which interviewed the couple, the woman, who is in her thirties, is "consumed by grief over the daughter who died soon after birth" and admits she has "become obsessed with having a daughter and it has become vital to her psychological health."

oh yea that'll make it all better by killing your two sons.

13 posted on 01/13/2011 10:42:07 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Coleus

Evil.


14 posted on 01/13/2011 10:52:18 AM PST by lazypadawan
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To: Coleus
I should not have read this so close to lunch.

Stories like this are the strongest argument outside of scripture for the existence of hell. The blood of those boys is crying out to God for justice. How can He ignore it?

15 posted on 01/13/2011 10:52:57 AM PST by jboot
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To: Coleus

Meanwhile there were probably many couples that would have loved to adopt those unwanted boys.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 10:55:48 AM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Coleus
Couple Aborts Twin Boys Because They Want a Girl Using IVF

What better way to make sure you go to hell and that the devil will be waiting there to punch your ticket  .... then kick you into a lake of fire

17 posted on 01/13/2011 10:59:07 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: al_c
Meanwhile there were probably many couples that would have loved to adopt those unwanted boys.

But that would have wasted their time and stressed out wifey too much. Both are to blame of course

18 posted on 01/13/2011 11:01:28 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: dennisw

Would the left be so pro-abortion if there was a liberal gene? liberal protected PC class gene?


19 posted on 01/13/2011 11:12:11 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Coleus

Monsters!

May God never grant them another child.


20 posted on 01/13/2011 11:25:13 AM PST by Palladin (Obama, go back to Hawaii! Better yet, go back to Kenya!!)
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To: Coleus

“we want . . “

WE want!!!!
We WANT!!!! - WE WANT!!!! WE WE WE WE WE WE WE WE !!!!!
WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT WANT!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 01/13/2011 11:59:46 AM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: All

what if this was one of those situations with a genetic disease where only boys carry the recessive gene? Remember, reporters get facts wrong.


22 posted on 01/13/2011 12:01:25 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Coleus
It can hardly be denied that IVF and abortion function as two sides of the same coin.

In both, the child is, functionally, a product or possession.

In IVF, craved as a possession. "My right to have the child I want."

In abortion, rejected as a possession."My right to dispose of the child I don't want."

In both cases: The determination that the child is there to supply what the adult needs, and not the other way around.

23 posted on 01/13/2011 12:03:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
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To: Coleus
"After what we have been through we are due for a bit of luck. We want to be given the opportunity to have a girl,"

There should have been a "barf alert" posted with this article. Luck? Both of them should be struck down.

24 posted on 01/13/2011 12:32:07 PM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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To: longtermmemmory

Unfortunately it isn’t. In cases, where there is a genuine risk of a disease that affects only one sex, Australian law allows for sex selection through IVF. The fact that these parents do not have that option means that this is not a factor. The whole point of this is they want the right to select their child’s sex through IVF on non medical grounds - simply because they want a girl.

The whole abortion angle seems to be “You can’t make me have boys - I’ll just abort them - so why not let me choose.” It’s monstrous.


25 posted on 01/13/2011 1:26:02 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
There must be tens of thousands of married couples who would have adopted those boys with joy beyond all telling.

"Parents" response: "We don't want you to love or be loved by anyone else. We'd rather see you dead."

Monstrous is the word.

26 posted on 01/13/2011 1:38:30 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." Arthur Herzog Jr./Billie Holiday)
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To: Coleus

I remember when Australia was a hyper masculine society.

I fond them very man oriented and rude to their women and they drank too much....but affable and funny.

1980s

Looks like the UK now.


27 posted on 01/14/2011 8:11:04 AM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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