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Frustration on global warming deepens for supporters of climate change bill (Kerry)
The Hill ^ | January 13, 2011 | Andrew Restuccia

Posted on 01/13/2011 3:23:47 PM PST by jazusamo

Frustration among lawmakers backing climate change legislation is palpable in the wake of the latest evidence of global warming.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) on Wednesday announced that 2010 was tied for the hottest year on record, yet Democrats in Congress said the nation is not getting any closer to taking action on greenhouse gas emissions.

“How many times do we have to be smacked in the face with factual evidence before we address global climate change? Report after report keep confirming it’s getting worse every year,” an exasperated Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said in a statement Wednesday.

It does not appear that Kerry and his allies will make much progress in 2011.

Democrats’ hope for passage of a cap-and-trade bill have been dashed, and the best liberals can hope for is a narrow energy bill that, among other things, requires a certain percentage of the country’s electricity to come from renewable sources like wind and solar. Even that legislation faces the possibility of being expanded to include nuclear, coal with carbon capture technology and natural gas.

And while the Obama administration has already taken action to begin reducing greenhouse gas emissions from power plants and refineries, Republicans — bolstered by their majority in the House and their increased numbers in the Senate — and Rust Belt Democrats are hoping to block the administration’s climate change authority.

A big part of the problem, acknowledged by some advocates, is that data like NOAA’s have so far failed to convince the American people there is a desperate problem.

According to a Rasmussen poll released Wednesday, 44 percent of Americans believe climate change is caused by natural “planetary trends,” while 40 percent of Americans say climate change is caused by human activity.

And stories about NOAA’s report were dismissed by skeptics, some of whom pointed out that Europe is on pace for one of the coldest winters on record.

“There are more skeptics of catastrophic man-made global warming than there have ever been as part of this global warming movement,” bragged Matt Dempsey, the spokesman for Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.), the Senate’s best-known global warming skeptic.

Dempsey criticized Kerry and Rep. Edward Markey (D-Mass.) for using NOAA’s data to call for policies to address climate change.

“Sen. Kerry and his allies had their chance over the last five or 10 years to pass cap-and-trade,” he said. Now, Dempsey said, it’s time for a new approach.

Another issue plaguing Democrats is the weather. Winter isn’t exactly the best time to be arguing that the climate is warming. Climate skeptics are always happy to point to freak blizzards and cold-snaps to argue their case.

But scientists have sought to push back against those claims. For example, a lead scientist at NOAA told The Hill last month that the changing climate will also lead to more extreme weather events like winter storms.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; climatechange; climatefraud; climatehoax; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; kerry
Kerry: “How many times do we have to be smacked in the face with factual evidence before we address global climate change?"

LOL! It's a real laugher for John (Christmas in Cambodia) Kerry to be talking about facts.

1 posted on 01/13/2011 3:23:51 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping!


2 posted on 01/13/2011 3:24:19 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Please bump the Freepathon and donate or become a monthly donor!

3 posted on 01/13/2011 3:29:09 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Man change the climate of Earth? ROTFLMAO


4 posted on 01/13/2011 3:29:16 PM PST by Chattering Class of 58
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To: jazusamo

Kerry, Kerry, Kerry, I have now realized that maybe, maybe you should lay off of the ketchup.


5 posted on 01/13/2011 3:29:29 PM PST by TheRevolution1776 (Time to abolish and start over. Draw the line.)
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To: jazusamo

Time to clean up the NOAA with a big budget cut.


6 posted on 01/13/2011 3:32:50 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: jazusamo
the shining Pictures, Images and Photos

You can believe the government or your own lying senses.

7 posted on 01/13/2011 3:34:15 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: jazusamo

Come congress, declare CO2 a non pollutant and put this nonsense to rest.


8 posted on 01/13/2011 3:34:43 PM PST by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: RightGeek

I agree. NOAA obviously is clueless about using real vs. manufactured data.


9 posted on 01/13/2011 3:37:27 PM PST by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: steveab

“an exasperated Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said in a statement Wednesday”.

LOL. LOVE IT.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 3:38:20 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: jazusamo

How is it that the evolutionists are willing to risk their immortal souls for their belief in the evolution of the planet, but cannot accept climate change as a part of that same evolution?


11 posted on 01/13/2011 3:44:52 PM PST by chickadee
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To: jazusamo
It's a real laugher for Longjaw to talk about anything smacking anybody in the face, given that generations of old-money inbreeding and a hardwood ugly stick has pummeled him in the mug from Day One.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

12 posted on 01/13/2011 3:46:02 PM PST by Viking2002 ('Let his days be few; and let another take his office.' - Psalms 109:8)
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To: jazusamo
Well...2011 will most CERTAINLY not be one of the warmest on record. According to the satellite data...Dec was only +.18 above normal and so far January is BELOW the long term average.

With La Nina still raging...expect the global temps to continue to fall.

2011 will likely be below normal or near normal. If NOAA says it is any else...they will be lying their collective a$$'s off.

It is all part of a long-term cycle. We have been slightly above normal...due to solar and oceanic cycles. We are reversing those now. The only fly in the ointment is data collected from observing sites that is warmer than normal due to heat island effect and bad equipment.

13 posted on 01/13/2011 3:47:37 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: NELSON111

I doubt NOAA would hesitate to lie through their teeth like the turkey at NASA did if they felt it would help them with funding. I agree with you completely.


14 posted on 01/13/2011 3:57:58 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
All I know is that I'm sitting here in Central Florida, the water is not creeping up at the beach one iota, and my feet are freezing!

Throw another lump of coal on the fire!

15 posted on 01/13/2011 4:00:48 PM PST by The Duke
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To: chickadee

That’s a great point. It’s like they can only accept what their agenda is at present, to heck with anyone elses point of view whether scientific or not.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 4:02:32 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: The Duke

It’s a sonofagun when you have to wear clothing in layers in Florida. :-)


17 posted on 01/13/2011 4:04:37 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
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18 posted on 01/13/2011 4:15:25 PM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: jazusamo
Climate skeptics are always happy to point to freak blizzards and cold-snaps to argue their case.

It's getting colder outside because it's getting warmer outside.
19 posted on 01/13/2011 4:18:26 PM PST by Defend Liberty
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To: jazusamo
“How many times do we have to be smacked in the face with factual evidence before we address global climate change?..

Liberals. Always confusing fantasy with reality.

Now this is factual reality.

Freezes Contribute To Manatee Deaths

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. -- A record number of manatee died in Florida this year, and those who track the threatened species are concerned.

According to the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, 699 manatees were found dead between Jan. 1 and Dec. 5 -- the most deaths recorded in a single year. State officials said it's likely the cold temperatures contributed nearly 250 of the deaths, and may have contributed to hundreds more.

The majority of the manatees died at the beginning of 2010. Experts worry this month's cold snap could be responsible for many more deaths.

Manatees need water above 70 degrees to stay healthy.

Now this is a work of fantasy.

NOAA: 2010 Tied For Warmest Year on Record

Global ocean surface temperatures for 2010 tied with 2005 as the third warmest on record, at 0.88 F (0.49 C) above the 20th century average. The range of confidence associated with the ocean surface temperature is +/- 0.11 F (+/- 0.06 C).

20 posted on 01/13/2011 4:34:51 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: jazusamo

In the meantime, a good part of the South is covered in snow today.


21 posted on 01/13/2011 4:35:14 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: jazusamo

Gee, all the money these guys invested in ‘a sure thing’ is now rattling their cage.


22 posted on 01/13/2011 4:40:09 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: jazusamo
...announced that 2010 was tied for the hottest year on record...

Is that before or after they used "...Mike's Nature trick to hide the decline..."?

23 posted on 01/13/2011 4:40:12 PM PST by sima_yi ( Reporting live from the People's Republic of Boulder)
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To: jazusamo; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

24 posted on 01/13/2011 5:03:52 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: jazusamo; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv
“How many times do we have to be smacked in the face with factual evidence before we address global climate change? Report after report keep confirming it’s getting worse every year,” an exasperated Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said in a statement Wednesday.

Are faked "data" really "facts"?

(REF: It's 'the hottest year on record', as long as you don't take its temperature (Hansen again )

25 posted on 01/13/2011 5:11:03 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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To: ApplegateRanch; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

[future quote] “How many times did I get to be a public scold before the voters got fed up with my line of b-s-?” an exasperated ex-Senator John Kerry said in his farewell speech, which was only covered by Al Jazeerah.

Thanks ApplegateRanch.


26 posted on 01/13/2011 5:49:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; jazusamo; SunkenCiv

I think Florida is the only state of the 57 that hasn’t seen snow this winter.

As far as temps last year, we sat around waiting for the summer that never happened.

I’m already sick of the cold and snow. I can hardly wait until winter hits in March.


27 posted on 01/13/2011 6:13:04 PM PST by bigheadfred (As a rapturous voice escapes I will tremble a prayer and I'll ask for forgiveness...)
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To: SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; steelyourfaith; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; tubebender; Carry_Okie; ...
Thanks.

Related thread:

UPDATED: Nearly 71% of the USA is covered in snow, 49 of 50 states have snow on the ground

28 posted on 01/13/2011 6:54:01 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: jazusamo; Navy Patriot; SunkenCiv

Thanks to Navy Patriot for posting this Graphic....

29 posted on 01/13/2011 6:57:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: jazusamo
Found this at Watts up With That?:

Do We Care if 2010 is the Warmist Year in History?

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Posted on by Ira Glickstein, PhD

Guest Post by Ira Glickstein
According to the latest from NASA GISS (Goddard Institute for Space Studies), 2010 is shaping up to be “the warmest of 131 years”, based on global data from January through November. They compare it to 2005 “2nd warmest of 131 years” and 1998 “5th warmest of 131 years”.

We won’t know until the December data is in. Even then, given the level of noise in the base data and the wiggle room in the analysis, each of which is about the same magnitude as the Global Warming they are trying to quantify, we may not know for several years. If ever. GISS seems to analyze the data for decades, if necessary, to get the right answer.

A case in point is the still ongoing race between 1934 and 1998 to be the hottest for US annual mean temperature, the subject of one of the emails released in January of this year by NASA GISS in response to a FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) request. The 2007 message from Dr. Makiko Sato to Dr. James Hansen traces the fascinating story of that hot competition. See the January WUWT and my contemporary graphic that was picked up by several websites at that time.

The great 1934 vs 1998 race for US warmest annual mean temperature. Ira Glickstein, Dec 2010.

[My new graphic, shown here, reproduces Sato's email text, including all seven data sets, some or all of which were posted to her website. Click image for a larger version.]

The Great Hot 1934 vs 1998 Race
1) Sato’s first report, dated July 1999, shows 1934 with an impressive lead of over half a degree (0.541ºC to be exact) above 1998.

Keep in mind that this is US-only data, gathered and analyzed by Americans. Therefore, there is no possibility of fudging by the CRU (Climategate Research Unit) at East Anglia, England, or bogus data from Russia, China, or some third-world country. (If there is any error, it was due to home-grown error-ists :^)

Also note that total Global Warming, over the past 131 years, has been, according to the IPCC, GISS and CRU, in the range of 0.7ºC to 0.8ºC. So, if 1934 was more than 0.5ºC warmer than 1998, that is quite a significant percentage of the total.

At the time of this analysis, July 1999, the 1998 data had been in hand for more than half a year. Nearly all of it was from the same reporting stations as previous years, so any adjustments for relocated stations or those impacted by nearby development would be minor. The 1934 data had been in hand for, well, 65 years (eligible to collect Social Security :^) so it had, presumably, been fully analyzed.

Based on this July 1999 analysis, if I was a betting man, I would have put my money on 1934 as a sure thing. However, that was not to be, as Sato’s email recounts.

Why? Well, given steadily rising CO2 levels, and the high warming sensitivity of virtually all climate models to CO2, it would have been, let us say inconvenient, for 1998 to have been bested by a hot golden oldie from over 60 years previous! Kind of like your great grandpa beating you in a foot race.

2) The year 2000 was a bad one for 1934. November 2000 analysis seems to have put it on a downhill ski slope that cooled it by nearly a fifth of a degree (-0.186ºC to be precise). On the other hand, it was a very good year for 1998, which, seemingly put on a ski lift, managed to warm up by nearly a quarter of a degree (+0.233ºC). That confirms the Theory of Conservation of Mass and Energy. In other words, if someone in your neighborhood goes on a diet and loses weight, someone else is bound to gain it.

OK, now the hot race is getting interesting, with 1998 only about an eighth of a degree (0.122ºC) behind 1934. I’m still rooting for 1934. How about you?

3) Further analysis in January 2001 confirmed the downward trend for 1934 (lost an additional 26th of a degree) and the upward movement of 1998 (gained an additional 21th of a degree), tightening the hot race to a 28th of a degree (0.036ºC).

Good news! 1934 is still in the lead, but not by much!

4) Sato’s analysis and reporting on the great 1934 vs 1998 race seems to have taken a hiatus between 2001 and 2006. When the cat’s away, the mice will play, and 1998 did exactly that. The January 2006 analysis has 1998 unexpectedly tumbling, losing over a quarter of a degree (-0.269ºC), and restoring 1934‘s lead to nearly a third of a degree (0.305ºC). Sato notes in her email “This is questionable, I may have kept some data which I was checking.” Absolutely, let us question the data! Question, question, question … until we get the right answer.

5) Time for another ski lift! January 2007 analysis boosts 1998 by nearly a third of a degree (+0.312ºC) and drops 1934 a tiny bit (-0.008ºC), putting 1998 in the lead by a bit (0.015ºC). Sato comments “This is only time we had 1998 warmer than 1934, but one [on?] web for 7 months.”

6) and 7) March and August 2007 analysis shows tiny adjustments. However, in what seems to be a photo finish, 1934 sneaks ahead of 1998, being warmer by a tiny amount (0.023ºC). So, hooray! 1934 wins and 1998 is second.

OOPS, the hot race continued after the FOIA email! I checked the tabular data at GISS Contiguous 48 U.S. Surface Air Temperature Anomaly (C) today and, guess what? Since the Sato FOIA email discussed above, GISS has continued their taxpayer-funded work on both 1998 and 1934. The Annual Mean for 1998 has increased to 1.32ºC, a gain of a bit over an 11th of a degree (+0.094ºC), while poor old 1934 has been beaten down to 1.2ºC., a loss of about a 20th of a degree (-0.049ºC). So, sad to say, 1934 has lost the hot race by about an eighth of a degree (0.12ºC). Tough loss for the old-timer.

Analysis of the Analysis

What does this all mean? Is this evidence of wrongdoing? Incompetence? Not necessarily. During my long career as a system engineer I dealt with several brilliant analysts, all absolutely honest and far more competent than me in statistical processes. Yet, they sometimes produced troubling estimates, often due to poor assumptions.

In one case, prior to the availability of GPS, I needed a performance estimate for a Doppler-Inertial navigation system. They computed a number about 20% to 30% worse than I expected. In those days, I was a bit of a hot head, so I stormed over and shouted at them. A day later I had a revised estimate, 20% to 30% better than I had expected. My conclusion? It was my fault entirely. I had shouted too loudly! So, I went back and sweetly asked them to try again. This time they came in near my expectations and that was the value we promised to our customer.

Why had they been off? Well, as you may know, an inertial system is very stable, but it drifts back and forth on an 84 minute cycle (the period of a pendulum the length of the radius of the Earth). A Doppler radar does not drift, but it is noisy and may give erroneous results over smooth surfaces such as water and grass. The analysts had designed a Kalman filter that modeled the error characteristics to achieve a net result that was considerably better than either the inertial or the Doppler alone. To estimate performance they needed to assume the operating conditions, including how well the inertial system had been initialized prior to take off, and the terrain conditions for the Doppler. Change assumptions, change the results.

Conclusions

Is 2010 going to be declared warmest global annual by GISS after the December data comes in? I would not bet against that. As we have seen, they keep questioning and analyzing the data until they get the right answers. But, whatever they declare, should we believe it? What do you think?

Figuring out the warmest US annual is a lot simpler. Although I (and probably you) think 1934 was warmer than 1998, it seems someone at GISS, who knows how to shout loudly, does not think so. These things happen and, as I revealed above, I myself have been guilty of shouting at analysts. But, I corrected my error, and I was not asking all the governments of the world to wreck their economies on the basis of the results.


30 posted on 01/13/2011 7:01:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Brrr Bump!


31 posted on 01/13/2011 7:05:43 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

2010 was pretty cold in my neck of the woods.

2011 even more so. Most snow I’ve seen here since 1978.


32 posted on 01/13/2011 7:06:04 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Tell me tell me. For the past two weeks every time I leave my house I had stared at snow. Now even more staying on the ground. Brrrrrrrr.......where is big Al Gore when I need him.


33 posted on 01/13/2011 7:08:35 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: jazusamo; Ernest_at_the_Beach

I hope Kerry and his drunken wife loose a lot of money in these carbon trading schemes. And perhaps lots of bucks they might have plowed into greenie industries that will never get off the ground.


34 posted on 01/13/2011 7:11:49 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hah! The Analysis of the Analysis and Conclusion is all anyone needs to see. Hundreds of billions are being spent worldwide on a scam.


35 posted on 01/13/2011 7:17:24 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Marine_Uncle
I hope Kerry and his drunken wife loose a lot of money in these carbon trading schemes.

Amen! It's always good to see a grifters lose their shorts, of course in this case I wouldn't want to be witness to it. :-)

36 posted on 01/13/2011 7:20:44 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Heheh.


37 posted on 01/13/2011 7:25:39 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Bookmark


38 posted on 01/13/2011 8:09:09 PM PST by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: jazusamo

39 posted on 01/13/2011 8:15:12 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Publius6961

Perhaps I was a bit to hard on the old hag.


40 posted on 01/13/2011 8:18:28 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....Duncan Hunter Sr. for POTUS.)
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To: Chode

Paging Jon Carie, pick up the house phone. :)


41 posted on 01/13/2011 8:43:13 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
damn straight...
42 posted on 01/13/2011 8:56:59 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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