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Expert Warns Of Danger In Broken CFL Bulbs
KYW Newsradio ^ | January 13, 2011 | Michelle Durham,

Posted on 01/13/2011 9:14:34 PM PST by george76

As incandescent bulbs are phased out across America in favor of energy-saving compact fluorescents (CFL), a Philadelphia environment expert is warning of a potential danger in the bulbs — especially if they are accidentally broken... you need to take special precautions if a CFL bulb breaks.

“Open up the windows,” Prof. Ryan advises. “Leave the room for 15 to 20 minutes and let the room air out. There will be a little bit of mercury that will vaporize. Mercury is a toxin and you don’t want to breathe it in...

He says if a bulb breaks you should also turn off your central air or heat for about 20 minutes if you have a forced-air system.

(Excerpt) Read more at philadelphia.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: bulbs; cfl; cflbulbs; energy; mercury; mercurybulbs
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1 posted on 01/13/2011 9:14:35 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

But hey, these things are great for the envirronment!


2 posted on 01/13/2011 9:17:43 PM PST by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: george76

I don’t like the kind of light these things give off either...it’s a piercing white. Regular bulbs seem to be more like the color of sunlight.

So with this...after they eventually shoot out and need to be replaced, wouldn’t this pollute the ground and water more with the mercury in them? The long term effect of these could be an environmental negative.


3 posted on 01/13/2011 9:19:25 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: george76

The cure was worse than the disease...


4 posted on 01/13/2011 9:19:40 PM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: george76

The cure was worse than the disease...


5 posted on 01/13/2011 9:19:59 PM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: george76
I dunno,....

Those incandescent lamps have Wolfram in them. That stuff certainly doesn't sound friendly.

6 posted on 01/13/2011 9:20:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: george76

A little note, if you buy any at a ‘big box’ store, a lot of them are are broken on the shelves in their packages. They are delicate suckers.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 9:27:36 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: george76

The vapor pressure of mercury is extremely low. It would take a long time for mercury to evaporate.

How many of you as kids played with mercury. Did it evaporate?

The vapor is poisonous, but staying away from it for 20 minutes does not resolve the problem.

What is this “professor” smoking?


8 posted on 01/13/2011 9:31:43 PM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: george76

Treat just like dead batteries. Toss em in the garbage. They wouldn’t sell them if they were bad for us. Right?


9 posted on 01/13/2011 9:34:55 PM PST by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: IncPen

Send them directly to a California landfill. The Mexicans are taking this state; go ahead and poison it.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 9:36:41 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: george76

A caller to Rush’s show a couple of weeks ago had a fantastic suggestion. He thought we should start calling CFL bulbs MERCURY BULBS to everyone we spoke to about them.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 9:41:04 PM PST by redhead ("I think I'm the best fish filleter in the whole third grade." --Piper Palin)
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To: george76

They don’t even save energy. All the CFLs I’ve thus far bought have burnt out much more quickly on average than incandescents.


12 posted on 01/13/2011 9:41:52 PM PST by pogo101
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To: Paladin2
Those incandescent lamps have Wolfram in them. That stuff certainly doesn't sound friendly.

Wolfram (a.k.a. Tungsten) is a largely inert material. If you want to poison yourself with it, a 200 lb. man needs to eat more than one pound of the metal.

To compare, mercury is poisonous in micrograms. Here is one report:

A 1987 report described a 23-month-old toddler who suffered anorexia, weight loss, irritability, profuse sweating, and peeling and redness of fingers and toes. This case of acrodynia was traced to exposure of mercury from a carton of 8-foot fluorescent light bulbs that had broken in a potting shed adjacent to the main nursery. The glass was cleaned up and discarded, but the child often used the area for play.

The same Wikipedia article contains a large list of other cases related to mercury.

13 posted on 01/13/2011 9:44:53 PM PST by Greysard
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To: george76
Computer projector bulbs have mercury in them as well. I had one blow out in my classroom, and the janitor put in a new one. I asked to see the corpse of the old one, and saw HG on the side of it. What protocols are in place for these? Nada. Thanks a lot.
14 posted on 01/13/2011 9:49:32 PM PST by Othniel (There is no god named Allah, and Mohammed is its false prophet.)
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To: george76

So if I lived in an open floor plan type of house and a CFL bulb broke in the living room, I should open the windows (and the outside temp. is 28 and snowing) for 15-20 minutes, turn off the heat and leave the house? And when I do come back in it’s going to take me how long to make the kitchen, dining room and living room warm?

Sounds like a good plan. /sarc

Guess I’m lucky I live in the desert. Unless this happens in the summer!


15 posted on 01/13/2011 9:51:12 PM PST by azishot (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Paladin2
"Those incandescent lamps have Wolfram in them. That stuff certainly doesn't sound friendly."

Ah, you have seen through the clever disguise. The fluffy white pure light.

But all along it was wolfram in sheep's clothing!

16 posted on 01/13/2011 9:52:07 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Greysard
My mouth is full of Hg, though less than some years ago. I played with Hg years ago (more often ona desktop than in my hand) and lived to tell the tale.

I still say that Wolfs sound dangerous.

17 posted on 01/13/2011 9:52:36 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: george76
I'm sure I've seen these safety precautions before somewhere ...

As domestic cats are phased out across America in favor of lions and tigers, a Philadelphia pet expert is warning of a potential danger with the big cats — especially if they are hungry ... you need to take special precautions if a big cat misses dinner.

“Open up the freezer,” Prof. Ryan advises. “Leave the room for 15 to 20 minutes and let the big cat eat. There will be a little bit of a mess. Big cats are nasty and you don’t want to piss them off...

He says if a big cat growls at you you should also send your kids outside for about 20 minutes while you open cans of food and distract it with yarn.


18 posted on 01/13/2011 10:03:07 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Rocky
How many of you as kids played with mercury. Did it evaporate?

We played with mercury, rubbing it onto dimes with our fingers. It made the silver dimes very shiny. We then spent the dimes after tiring of them. Hey, we were kids and didn't know any better. I don't recall seeing it evaporate.

19 posted on 01/13/2011 10:09:10 PM PST by roadcat
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To: Greysard; Rocky; All

The toddler played where an entire carton of 8 ft fluorescent tubes had broken. How can a little tiny compact fluorescent compare with that. Just clean up broken CFL carefully, double bag it and discard. It would be a good thing if Home Depot, Lowes and others would allow a drop off. I once broke a thermometer as a child and played with the little blob of mercury for a while. I am now 72 and in good health. Govt has to oversell the dangers of things like mercury, asbestos, etc. or they will be accused of not protecting the public. Very minor occasional exposure should not be a problem.


20 posted on 01/13/2011 10:13:27 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: redhead

Can we mail out burned out Mercury bulbs to AlGore? Or would he have us arrested?


21 posted on 01/13/2011 10:13:43 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: Republican Wildcat

CFL’s, basically, have 3 colors, RGB, blended together to create white. The blue is somewhere around 430nm, the red somewhere around 615nm, and the green somewhere around 550nm.
The 2700k bulbs have more of the orange/red phosphor, so the light appears more orange/red. Those are the warm whites. The 6500k daylight or cool white bulbs have more of a bluish tint, because they’re using more of the blue phosphor and less of the red.

Incandescent bulbs halogen bulbs, have light spectrums much more similar to the sun. Continuous full spectrum peaking in the visible light spectrum. The sun peaks somewhere in the 400-500nm range, the halogen in the 500-600nm, and the incand. With incands and the sun, you’re getting all wavelengths, in different proportions, with CFLs youre basically getting 3 wavelenths.


22 posted on 01/13/2011 10:24:09 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: pogo101

They’re not talking about how long the bulb lasts when they’re talking about efficiency. CFL’s are efficient. A 26w bulb does put out about the same amount of light as a 100w incand.
CFLs aren’t as cheap as incands, but they’re down below $2 a piece for the 26w.


23 posted on 01/13/2011 10:29:55 PM PST by truthfreedom
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To: UnwashedPeasant

I think they should all go to Upton - he’s at the top of the heap in the new Republican Committee chairmen now on Energy and he loves them. Still can’t figure out why he wasn’t booted out and replaced with someone more conservative. But at least it’s not a worry in my house - I have 6 cases of the old fashioned ones of various kinds in my garage. Should take care of my lifetime.


24 posted on 01/13/2011 10:33:55 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: george76

I totally HATE CFL bulbs

They are more expensive and the light they produce is unpleasant to the eye, IMO.


25 posted on 01/13/2011 10:38:08 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Greysard
A 1987 report described a 23-month-old toddler who suffered anorexia, weight loss, irritability, profuse sweating, and peeling and redness of fingers and toes. This case of acrodynia was traced to exposure of mercury from a carton of 8-foot fluorescent light bulbs that had broken in a potting shed adjacent to the main nursery. The glass was cleaned up and discarded, but the child often used the area for play.

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Ah ha! So that's what models do--they lick fluorescent light bulbs!

26 posted on 01/13/2011 10:53:08 PM PST by Irenic
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To: Paladin2

You must be kidding!


27 posted on 01/13/2011 11:14:20 PM PST by golux
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To: KoRn

I shunned them... until GE came out with neodymium bulbs. The color is very pleasing.


28 posted on 01/13/2011 11:20:48 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: george76

These things need a warning label like a pack of cigarettes.


29 posted on 01/13/2011 11:24:57 PM PST by Lera
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To: azishot

If you break a CFL bulb in your living room, simply open the windows for 15-20 minutes, turn off the heat and leave the house. Go for a drive or something, or just stay in your car with the engine and heat on. When you return, the highly toxic components of the bulb may or may not still be in your house. You must vacuum and, if possible, hand-wash the living room and possibly the entire house very carefully. This should help keep you warm as your house reheats itself. With all burners on “FULL” this should take less than an hour.

It’s a small price to pay for the beauty and simplicity of one of those expensive, ugly, ineffective, headache-inducing “energy saving, environmental” bulbs!


30 posted on 01/13/2011 11:26:34 PM PST by golux
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To: golux

Do ya think?


31 posted on 01/13/2011 11:28:00 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Grams A
Upton is a retarded RINO who has no understanding of the concept of individual freedom from Big Sis Gov't meddling.

(Constitutionally) Retarded he is.

32 posted on 01/13/2011 11:32:03 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: TigersEye

“Nice kitty....”


33 posted on 01/13/2011 11:35:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: george76

The let this cat out of the bag early...way too early. They should have said nothing about the mercury until incandescents were completely gone.

In the case of car airbags decapitating kids - they knew enough to keep that under wraps, until airbags were fully phased in.

Sometimes even socialists make mistakes.


34 posted on 01/14/2011 2:15:13 AM PST by BobL
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To: gleeaikin

I don’t know about Lowe’s, but I do know that Home Depot has a drop off for old batteries and fluorescent bulbs. It is usually at the return desk area.


35 posted on 01/14/2011 2:28:00 AM PST by LexRex in TN ("A republic, if you can keep it.......")
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To: george76; enough_idiocy; meyer; Normandy; Whenifhow; TenthAmendmentChampion; Clive; scripter; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

36 posted on 01/14/2011 3:16:46 AM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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To: george76

In addition the EPA Police (Mercury Control Division) will visit your home with a few “routine” questions. Have your documents ready and in order, please.


37 posted on 01/14/2011 3:36:54 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Rocky

I’m guessing it’s a mercury compound rather than metallic mercury, so it might have different properties.


38 posted on 01/14/2011 3:44:02 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: golux

Here’s Mark Stein’s take on how Gov killed one of America’s greatest invention and U.S. job killing workforce. Send it around:

http://stream.rushlimbaugh.com/cgi-bin/stream.cgi?stream=clips/11/01/010311_1_repeal.wma&site=rushlimb&token=caCaXaodVdaa1aYcSdfdyaxb8a9chaGa6dH-bnkkgb-bWG-HAryHmm&type=windows_od&clips=&v=&start=&stop=&RL=


39 posted on 01/14/2011 4:24:58 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: IncPen

Most of the people who wring their hands about the safety of CFLs probably spend 8 hours a day sitting under a veritable sea of 4-foot fluorescent light bulbs. Certainly those bulbs have bad stuff in them, too.


40 posted on 01/14/2011 4:35:57 AM PST by stranger and pilgrim
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To: george76
Could Bush not find a pen in time to veto this stuff back in 2007, or did K Street "govern" the domestic agenda for him?



I believe the Senate vote was 53-42, not enough to override a veto.
41 posted on 01/14/2011 4:41:48 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: george76

dont like them at all & esp the way they are being forced on us


42 posted on 01/14/2011 5:09:06 AM PST by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: rollo tomasi

“reducing oil dependence”...not the way it is being portrayed. There may be some reduced usage of usage of oil generated electricity but the biggest reduction in the use of energy will come after some die from being contaminated by this crap.


43 posted on 01/14/2011 5:13:55 AM PST by Mouton
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To: truthfreedom

I think that your post is interesting but it would be helpful if you would show what your abbreviations stand for. I know that RGB stands for red-green-blue but don’t know what the other abbreviations mean.


44 posted on 01/14/2011 6:55:20 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: pogo101
They don’t even save energy. All the CFLs I’ve thus far bought have burnt out much more quickly on average than incandescents.

Those must be really low quality. Even the ones I bought from ALDI last at least 10-15 longer than incandescents in my apartment.
45 posted on 01/14/2011 7:04:52 AM PST by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

Liberal policies are full of unintended consequences!!

This is just one more example.


46 posted on 01/14/2011 7:07:56 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: Mouton
The photo was from the signing of the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 which placed restrictions on incandescent light bulbs so much so that manufacturing the bulbs and placing them on the market would be close to impossible.

Incandescent light bulbs are not banned, but regulated to death starting next year. Bush signed the centralized power grab.

47 posted on 01/14/2011 7:08:32 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: george76

bflr


48 posted on 01/14/2011 7:30:31 AM PST by tnlibertarian (Hey D. C., tax increases are not spending cuts. Nor do tax cuts constitute increased spending.)
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To: Yardstick; gleeaikin; roadcat; george76

I’ve done a little research on these bulbs, and the amount of mercury in them is much smaller than I realized. Typically, a bulb will contain about 4 mg of mercury. As the bulb is used, much of the mercury bonds with the inside of the bulb (I haven’t been able to find out what compound is formed).

So, you could evaporate the mercury in a reasonable amount of time provided you circulate air over the mercury. The assumption seems to be that opening the windows will create a draft over the spilled mercury. If the mercury was in a recessed area, this might not work. It would seem to be more effective to set up a fan to gently blow air over the area where the mercury is spilled, keeping the windows open.

It would take about ten times as long to evaporate the mercury from a new bulb as it would the mercury from a bulb which has been used for a long time. I wonder whether the professor’s 20 minutes is for a new or used bulb?


49 posted on 01/14/2011 7:40:10 AM PST by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: pogo101

As much as I hate to admit it, that has not been the case inside my house. They are lasting WAY longer than any incandescent bulbs I’ve ever used.

But are they ready for outdoor fixtures? Anyone know?


50 posted on 01/14/2011 9:44:11 AM PST by savedbygrace (But God.)
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