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City puts a stop to homeless outreach
The Houston Chronicle ^ | January 13, 2011 | BRADLEY OLSON

Posted on 01/14/2011 7:19:38 AM PST by cdga5for4

Bobby and Amanda Herring spent more than a year providing food to homeless people in downtown Houston every day. They fed them, left behind no trash and doled out warm meals peacefully without a single crime being committed, Bobby Herring said.

That ended two weeks ago when the city shut down their "Feed a Friend" effort for lack of a permit. And city officials say the couple most likely will not be able to obtain one.

"We don't really know what they want, we just think that they don't want us down there feeding people," said Bobby Herring, a Christian rapper who goes by the stage name Tre9.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: democratsdenyfood; dncdenyfood; liberalsagainstpoor; liberalsdenyfood; sanctuarycity
I don't even know what to say.
1 posted on 01/14/2011 7:19:41 AM PST by cdga5for4
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To: cdga5for4
Thank God it's a free country.

</sarcasm>

2 posted on 01/14/2011 7:21:02 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: cdga5for4

Don’t feed the future national security force they’ll get fat lazy and will not be angry when they need them


3 posted on 01/14/2011 7:22:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V.........................................FOR VOMIT)
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To: cdga5for4

Government doesn’t like competition


4 posted on 01/14/2011 7:23:24 AM PST by GeronL (How DARE you have an opinion!!)
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To: cdga5for4
The city doesn't want the homeless folks fed downtown, because doing so causes homeless people to gather downtown. You get more of what you subsidize and less of what you tax... the city wants the homeless folks to go away. That's all there is to this issue.

I've got a liberal neighbor who is most upset that there is a homeless shelter just a few blocks away from our neighborhood. He's not opposed to feeding the hungry; he just doesn't want to live next to them.

5 posted on 01/14/2011 7:25:00 AM PST by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: cdga5for4

“Connie Boyd, president and CEO of the Coalition for the Homeless of Houston/Harris County, applauded the Herrings’ efforts but defended the city’s stance.”

Read between the lines: The professional poverty pimps put them out of business. They probably called city counilmembers who then put heat on the administrators. NO AMATEURS ALLOWED—grants and donation money at stake. Allways follow the money. POVERTY IS AN INDUSTRY.


6 posted on 01/14/2011 7:26:41 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: cdga5for4

This is the same santuary city that breaks the federal law and harbors crminals. I’m glad I don’t live there.


7 posted on 01/14/2011 7:27:31 AM PST by quegley (Pitchforks and torches! Tar and feathers! Time to take the country back!)
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To: cdga5for4

This vigilante charity has to stop. Charity begins at the legislature and ends at the cold disinterested hand of the bureaucrat.


8 posted on 01/14/2011 7:28:00 AM PST by DManA
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To: cdga5for4

Just another case where government has run amok and destroyed something good with it’s heavy handed “good intentions”.


9 posted on 01/14/2011 7:28:15 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: cdga5for4

We have created a heartless monster, i.e., Big Government. This is highly immoral and criminal in my opinion. Maybe they should have guised themselves as a Gay Outreach program to feed the homeless? I’m sure they would be exempted from “the law”.


10 posted on 01/14/2011 7:30:27 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: cdga5for4

Because poor people are the exclusive property of Holy Mother the State.


11 posted on 01/14/2011 7:31:28 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("You can observe a lot just by watchin' " . --- Yogi Berra)
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To: cdga5for4

12 posted on 01/14/2011 7:33:02 AM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Thank God it's a free country.

Yes. Thank God the you have the right to run around homeless and defecate on public and private property.

13 posted on 01/14/2011 7:33:49 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: cdga5for4

They’re trying to cut down on the pan-handling in the downtown area....


14 posted on 01/14/2011 7:37:34 AM PST by LaineyDee (Don't mess with Texas wimmen!)
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To: cdga5for4

Here’s a cool idea, what we do in Wichita:

http://catholicdioceseofwichita.org/the-lords-diner/the-lords-diner-home


15 posted on 01/14/2011 7:39:01 AM PST by SaintDismas
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To: SeeSac
Yes. Thank God the you have the right to run around homeless and defecate on public and private property.

The Obama Depression will put a lot of people in that situation.

16 posted on 01/14/2011 7:42:30 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: cdga5for4
>>>Anyone serving food for public consumption, whether for the homeless or for sale, must have a permit, said Kathy Barton, a spokeswoman for the Health and Human Services Department. To get that permit, the food must be prepared in a certified kitchen with a certified food manager.

The regulations are all the more essential in the case of the homeless, Barton said, because “poor people are the most vulnerable to foodborne illness and also are the least likely to have access to health care.”<<<

That makes sense, it is much healthier for the homeless to consume that “safe” food they find in dumpsters. /sarc

I'd be interested in knowing the statistics on how many homeless people have become ill from eating food prepared in uncertified kitchens by volunteer outreaches.

Also, how is “public consumption” defined. If I worked in Houston would it against the law for me to give half my homemade turkey sandwich to a co-worker? Could I bring in a plate of homemade cookies?

17 posted on 01/14/2011 7:42:45 AM PST by Above My Pay Grade
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To: cdga5for4

When I lived in Portland, Maine in the 80’s the homeless were coming in droves. There was/is a hobo newspaper that circulates among these people and it was raving about all the freebies that Portland had to offer. In they came. The same paper will probably advice to go elsewhere.


18 posted on 01/14/2011 7:46:03 AM PST by albie
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To: SC_Pete

Yup. Follow the money.


19 posted on 01/14/2011 7:49:48 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.http://ma)
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To: cdga5for4
The regulations are all the more essential in the case of the homeless, Barton said, because "poor people are the most vulnerable to foodborne illness and also are the least likely to have access to health care."

Oh, you can't feed the poor in an uncertified kitchen because they're so weak they might get sick and so destitute they won't be able to see a doctor when they do.

Let 'em starve and no one will get in trouble.

20 posted on 01/14/2011 7:50:34 AM PST by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: BfloGuy
Let 'em starve and no one will get in trouble.

Teach a man to fish ...

http://www.sohmission.org/netcommunity/page.aspx?pid=251

21 posted on 01/14/2011 7:59:06 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: LaineyDee

Houston’s panhandling problem
Is Houston finally going to begin cracking down on its rampant panhandling problem? I’ll believe it when I see it, but news like this gives me hope: a TV and radio campaign featuring the mayor urging people to help the homeless by giving to local charities instead of giving panhandlers spare change.

Of course, things won’t drastically change until the police finally begin enforcing Houston’s civility ordinances, but anything that attempts to combat the free reign panhandlers have in Houston is a step in the right direction.

I am really tired of being confronted by panhandlers on a constant basis: at gas stations, in grocery store parking lots, on METRORail platforms, at intersections, in front of bars and restaurants, even in the downtown tunnel system! Some of these people are clearly homeless. Some likely are not. Some of them are polite. Others are belligerent. It doesn’t matter. When they come up to me and ask me for money, I find it incredibly rude, annoying and sometimes even threatening.

It is certainly appropriate to have compassion for the less fortunate. This is especially true for homeless people, since so many of them suffer from debilitating mental problems or drug and alcohol addictions. But one’s compassion for the less fortunate should not get in the way of the fact that panhandling is a public nuisance. It is disruptive and it makes people uncomfortable. It also can be dangerous, especially for the roadside panhandlers who dart into busy intersections to collect money from passing cars. And, most importantly, it doesn’t really help anybody. Giving money to panhandlers only encourages the practice and, in turn, makes the problem worse.

So please: stop giving panhandlers your spare quarters or dollar bills. Give your money to a local charity instead: the Star of Hope, the Houston Food Bank, etc. By supporting organizations that are set up to help the city’s less fortunate, you’ll be doing more good than you’ll ever accomplish by handing your money over to strangers on the street.

http://indotav.blogspot.com/2006/08/houstons-panhandling-problem.html


22 posted on 01/14/2011 8:01:49 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: cdga5for4

Invite a homeless guy to your front doorstep. Give him some food and tell him that there will be more free food everyday. See how many show up the next day. Then see what they leave in your yard. Then see them knock on your neighbors doors. Then see them complain about your food.


23 posted on 01/14/2011 8:02:40 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: Leisler

If you haven’t seen the poverty pimps up close, you might overlook what they are really about. They have a vested interest in perpetuating homelessness, poverty, drug addiction, mental illness, and alcoholism. The bigger their numbers, the more money they get. The more money they get, the more people they hire, and the more the bosses make. Always, grow the bureaucracy. If you can lure more homeless people to your town, all the better. Offer more programs, advertise, and oila! More work to do. More grants. More donations.

Without poverty, they would have no jobs.


24 posted on 01/14/2011 8:08:21 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

You have nailed it.


25 posted on 01/14/2011 8:09:17 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SeeSac

If cities allow the homeless to panhandle, then less people will live there, visit there, do business there, shop there.

This is not complicated.

P.S. Cities shouldn’t be complaining about all their businesses and stores going to the suburbs if they don’t have the “nuisance factor” under control.


26 posted on 01/14/2011 8:10:09 AM PST by cgbg (No bailouts for New York and California. Let them eat debt.)
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To: SC_Pete

Nailed it again.


27 posted on 01/14/2011 8:13:19 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SC_Pete
You hit the nail on the head.

The government is supposed to honor "equal protection" under the law, by which the law is not suppose to be "special interest law", using "the law" to favor one man's interest, commercial or otherwise, over another.

When those in government use the law to favor one commercial interest over another interest, they are acting on the supposition that failure to favor that interest will hurt the tax revenue from that interest and to them that tax interest is their "right", the government's "right" not to be denied.

Ben Franklin was so prescient with his warning:

Outside Independence Hall when the Constitutional Convention of 1787 ended, Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, "Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?" With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, "A republic, if you can keep it."

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_by/benjamin+franklin

28 posted on 01/14/2011 8:48:08 AM PST by Wuli
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To: SC_Pete

Our main city in the county, Hyannis, has been turned into Detroit By The Sea. A walk downtown is a tour of skid row.

BTW, the dynamic you described one an economist named James M. Buchanan a Nobel. He called it ‘Public Choice Theory’. Basically, he said that it is in the best interest for bureaucracies to grow the problem.


29 posted on 01/14/2011 8:53:54 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.http://ma)
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To: SeeSac
Give your money to a local charity instead: the Star of Hope, the Houston Food Bank, etc.

You'd think some of those charities would set up something like having people buy food vouchers from them so those who "donate" to the homeless could hand them out instead of cash. Then again, the vouchers would be discounted and sold for booze or drugs, etc. The upside is that it would prove, for the umpteenth time, that these people are nothing more than freeloaders.

30 posted on 01/14/2011 9:00:52 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: cdga5for4

A couple things come to my mind:

1) Jesus said you will ALWAYS have the poor and hungry

2) Talked with a young man who has diligently worked to solve the hunger problem in my county. He has collected food and developed a distribution system. Said to me “There is no excuse for anyone to be hungry in Story County anymore.”

Mark Twain, once said, “Any damn fool can begin a speech, but it takes considerable skill to end one.”

I said to him. “Anyone one can begin a ministry, but it takes considerable skill to end one.” Didn’t hear anything further from him.

Bottom line. I applaud what he is doing but it will not solve the problem. But on the other hand, me just talking about it doesn’t help either.

At least half the people people don’t need the help and shouldn’t be helped. The other half do need help and encouragement.


31 posted on 01/14/2011 9:24:35 AM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: thefactor
Invite a homeless guy to your front doorstep. Give him some food and tell him that there will be more free food everyday. See how many show up the next day. Then see what they leave in your yard. Then see them knock on your neighbors doors. Then see them complain about your food.

Since this is true, I propose that they have to do some work before they are fed. They could earn a local currency (like the Ithaca Hours) that they redeem for a meal. There is all kinds of work that even drug fried people can do (especially with Cities cutting back on services, such as maintenance of public spaces, due to the budget crisis). All the soup kitchen volunteers have to do is diversify a little bit so that they put together a work opportunity and then sign off on the hours worked. Don't get too big so that there is face to face accountability for the volunteer supervisors (less chance for corruption) and form a new group if the first one gets too big.
32 posted on 01/14/2011 9:32:55 AM PST by Tucson_AZ (A million seconds ~ 12 days; a billion ~ 31 years; a trillion ~ 31,000 years - now think dollars)
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To: Leisler

I’m familiar with Buchanan. You are correct. The poverty pimps are acting rationally in their self-interest. They mobilize their employees and their clientele to vote in elections, hence their power over elected officials.

THIS IS WHAT OBAMA DID AS A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. We need to act rationally as well. Now that we understand the scam being perpetrated, we must bring an end to all of it.


33 posted on 01/14/2011 10:36:39 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: cdga5for4

This kind of crap, in a city where there are hundreds if not thousands of itinerant Mexican vendors selling out of trucks, parked trailers, etc., all over town, is ludicrous.

The vendors set up shop on a vacant lot, in store parking lots, wherever they can get good traffic and parking. And I’m absolutely sure they maintain perfect sanitary and refrigeration conditions, and impeccable food handling and preparation procedures.

NOT !!

Somebody’s losing a buck due to the charitable folks in the article, and is using the city “health” clowns to hose them. This is the typical vice of “permitting” - it’s protectionist collusion between businesses and goobermint.

It’s certainly better for the bums to be eating out of garbage cans than eating home cooked meals from this charity !


34 posted on 01/14/2011 11:51:24 AM PST by jimt
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To: cdga5for4

Houston is run by a liberal lesbian.

Liberals oppose helping the poor and homeless.

It’s the money they want not the help.


35 posted on 01/14/2011 12:08:08 PM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: NoLibZone

Houston is a Sanctuary City.

Illegals are OK there.

Let’s create Food Sanctuary Cities.


36 posted on 01/14/2011 12:12:27 PM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: cdga5for4

Last night (I think) Mayor Parker said officers do not have time to check immigration status of drivers they have pulled over. But I read today that officers do have the time to find people helping and feeding homeless to check and make sure they have proper food handleing permits?


37 posted on 01/14/2011 2:16:09 PM PST by Just A Reader
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To: jimt
This kind of crap, in a city where there are hundreds if not thousands of itinerant Mexican vendors selling out of trucks, parked trailers, etc., all over town, is ludicrous.

The vendors set up shop on a vacant lot, in store parking lots, wherever they can get good traffic and parking. And I’m absolutely sure they maintain perfect sanitary and refrigeration conditions, and impeccable food handling and preparation procedures.

NOT !!

Great point! What?...no need for a license for all those left-indoctrinated, protected, Sanctuary-City, future Dem-voting vendors?

Exactly how many people can we offer dinner to before we need a LICENSE??? 1, 2, 10?

Will there come a time when we need a "Home License" to serve dinner to a proscribed number of assembled guests?

38 posted on 01/14/2011 3:03:53 PM PST by thouworm
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