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Russia launches arms race with new intercontinental ballistic missile
Telegraph ^ | 14 Jan 2011 | Andrew Osborn

Posted on 01/14/2011 2:04:01 PM PST by george76

Russia is developing a replacement for the world's most devastating intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) in a move that risks reviving a global nuclear arms race.

the head of Rosobshemash said the new missile would be capable of overcoming any nuclear missile shield that the Americans or indeed anyone else might build. "This applies in the fullest sense to the USA's anti-missile defence system and to Nato's (planned) European missile defence system," said Artur Usenkov.

Russia is developing the new missile despite recently negotiating a new landmark Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty with the United States which will see both countries make deep cuts in their nuclear arsenals in the years ahead.

The move comes as Russia pushes ahead with the biggest overhaul of its armed forces since the fall of the Soviet Union. Vladimir Putin, the prime minister, said the Kremlin planned to spend twenty trillion roubles (£420 billion) on the task in the next decade.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; icbm; obamasfault; russia; start; starttreaty; treaties

1 posted on 01/14/2011 2:04:02 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

Yep, and START was such a great idea.


2 posted on 01/14/2011 2:05:51 PM PST by MeganC (I'm allergic to tequila. When I drink it I break out in handcuffs.)
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To: george76

Wonder what the dupe in the white house (.)bama has to say about this.


3 posted on 01/14/2011 2:06:29 PM PST by Mouton
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To: george76

To have a race, you have to have someone to race against. Candidates need to line up, maybe Japan?


4 posted on 01/14/2011 2:07:13 PM PST by Truth29
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To: george76

So the purpose of the START treaty was ... ???


5 posted on 01/14/2011 2:08:10 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: george76

So much for START and RINO shmucks.


6 posted on 01/14/2011 2:08:25 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: MeganC

ah one only has to read these rules to know what is going on.

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

rule 3 applies on this issue.


7 posted on 01/14/2011 2:08:28 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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Commie stooge

8 posted on 01/14/2011 2:08:56 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: ConjunctionJunction

rule 3

http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm.


9 posted on 01/14/2011 2:08:59 PM PST by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: george76

What if they had an arms race, but a retard of monumental proportions in the White House decided to sit it out?


10 posted on 01/14/2011 2:10:01 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will believe in abject nonsense.)
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To: george76

This is simply fabulous news. I never would have guessed that the Russians would have tricks up their sleeve. (sarc/off)


11 posted on 01/14/2011 2:10:13 PM PST by Artie
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To: george76
Barry knows how to counter this:

Unilaterally disarm America. That way, the neo-USSR will be morally compelled to abandon their military upgrade.

Really. That's how those idiots "think".


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

12 posted on 01/14/2011 2:13:11 PM PST by The Comedian (Sarah Palin: America's last, best hope.)
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To: manc

Yes, I should have put /sarc at the end of my post.


13 posted on 01/14/2011 2:13:30 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction
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To: Mouton

“Wonder what the dupe in the white house (.)bama has to say about this.”

WE surrender!


14 posted on 01/14/2011 2:13:57 PM PST by mongo141
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To: george76

Psych!

15 posted on 01/14/2011 2:14:17 PM PST by skeeter
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To: george76

“.... the new missile would be capable of overcoming any nuclear missile shield that the Americans or indeed anyone else might build”....I call BS! Yeah, that is why they did not want us putting a missile shield in Poland, etc., huh?! =.=


16 posted on 01/14/2011 2:17:16 PM PST by cranked
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To: george76
You know I'm getting the the point where I don't care anymore. If Russia wants to spend billions on new ICBMs let them waste their money. Europe's economy taken together is bigger than our own, so they can pay for their own damn defense. If they want to be dominated by Russia, then let them. We should stop garrisoning the whole world, get to work on an top-rate American missile defense shield and upgrade our own offensive capabilities without regard to Russia - let everyone know that if they mess with us, it's no more Mr. nice guy, limited-engagement, hearts-and-minds, nation rebuilder crap. We'll make a smoking crater out of your sh*t country in time to catch the evening news. We're tired of being blamed for the world's problems. They can fight dictatorship, economic blackmail, Islam, Marxism and the rest of it on their own. We've kept the lid on the stinking corpse of humanity long enough - the world's going to tear itself apart again because that's what humans do. Time we prepared to weather the storm again like WWII. Who wants to buy arms?
17 posted on 01/14/2011 2:18:20 PM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: americanophile

I think we should give a few small tactical nukes to Chechnya.


18 posted on 01/14/2011 2:22:37 PM PST by eCSMaster (My memory's not as sharp as it used to be. Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be.)
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To: eCSMaster

They’re trying to out-Reagan us. It’s as clear as day. Putin is a cold warrior. The U.S. is bankrupting itself and we can ill-afford an arms race. Russia’s debt, by contrast, is the lowest of the G20 nations. Having obtained an agreement with us to downsize our aresenal, while securing what they believe to be the renunciation of the missle defense shield that Gorbachev had wanted but Reagan wouldn’t concede, they are now launching an arms modernization program to establish global offensive military supremacy.


19 posted on 01/14/2011 2:28:52 PM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: george76

George H.W. Bush came out for the treaty.


20 posted on 01/14/2011 2:29:14 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: eCSMaster

I think we should give a few small tactical nukes to Chechnya.

Which nukes would quickly find ‘homes’ in various US cities... the Chets would sell them in a heart beat to AQ, if they didn’t donate them outright.


21 posted on 01/14/2011 2:31:33 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: americanophile

Russian is financing their arms build up from sales of their huge natural gas and oil reserves. We could do the same, except... we are not ‘allowed’ to by our environmental masters.


22 posted on 01/14/2011 2:34:31 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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To: eCSMaster

If your going to play that game you should give nuclear weapons to Poland. If you limit the amount of nuclear weapons your allies have then you can control strategy and hopefully a single coordinated deterrent.


23 posted on 01/14/2011 2:34:53 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: americanophile
let everyone know that if they mess with us, it's no more Mr. nice guy, limited-engagement, hearts-and-minds, nation rebuilder crap. We'll make a smoking crater out of your sh*t country in time to catch the evening news.

You know, I agree.

That's what we should have done in Afghanistan: just blockade the border with Pakistan to keep them from escaping, and drop bombs and missiles until every cave in the mountains was sealed and nothing else was moving.

Then depart, leaving nothing behind but a simple message: if you bother us again, we'll be back and do 10 times the damage. You want to prevent it? STFU and clean up your act. You want help rebuilding? Talk to the people that got you into this mess.

We should have done something similar in Iraq the first time.

I too am tired of footing the bill for the "world's policeman". The rest of the world can go to hell without our help or hindrance.

24 posted on 01/14/2011 2:41:18 PM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: george76
...the head of Rosobshemash said the new missile would be capable ...

How about Rumpelstiltskin? Or Johnjacobjingleheimerschmidt, perhaps?


25 posted on 01/14/2011 2:47:17 PM PST by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: americanophile

Just for fun (?), suppose the unthinkable did happen and the US and Russia (or China, or...) traded somewhere in the area of 25 to 50 nukes, then what? Easily 30% of us are dead and the another 30-40% are going to die within a couple weeks. Does it matter that we died because of a bigger nuke? At that point, the only thing that would matter to me is that 1) similar or worse was inflicted on the enemy and 2) several Muslim ‘holy’ sites got hit as well.

The ‘MAD’ logic won’t stop the nut-jobs in NK, or Iran or the radical muslim. But is should give serious pause to any leader of a ‘normal’ country. So long as the US has the realisitic ability to deliver a freakishly horrific nuke nightmare (and we do), I don’t think nukes will be the weapon of choice for the Russians or Chinese.

Today, the US has enough enemies who are using economic weapons which are kicking the crap out of us. Spending billions to make the dead even deader doesn’t make a lot of sense.


26 posted on 01/14/2011 2:48:14 PM PST by mad puppy (Obama Care is a 'Giffen Good'.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Thanks george76. Gosh, it’s almost as if this is related to the Obama US disarmament treaty.


27 posted on 01/14/2011 2:55:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: george76

28 posted on 01/14/2011 3:06:37 PM PST by klpt
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To: george76

It’s not a race if our leader won’t let us run.


29 posted on 01/14/2011 3:15:40 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

What leader?


30 posted on 01/14/2011 3:40:05 PM PST by halfright (My presidents picture is in the dictionary, next to the word, "rectum".)
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To: george76

Isn’t Usenkov the guy who recently claimed that a Russian invented Microsoft?


31 posted on 01/14/2011 3:51:21 PM PST by Melchior
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To: justlurking

Here, here!


32 posted on 01/14/2011 4:17:39 PM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: mad puppy
"...and 2) several Muslim ‘holy’ sites got hit as well."

Now that's funny. I totally agree with your entire post.

33 posted on 01/14/2011 4:18:52 PM PST by americanophile ("We come to it, at last. The great battle of our time.")
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To: george76
I've often wondered if Putin is Obama's Boss.
34 posted on 01/14/2011 4:44:02 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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