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Bloomberg: Let's talk gun control
Politico ^ | January 11, 2011 | Juana Summers

Posted on 01/14/2011 2:40:07 PM PST by neverdem

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg says the shooting of an Arizona congresswoman should spark a renewed gun control debate, calling accused shooter Jared Lee Loughner “a disgrace to democracy” as he advocated changes in federal gun policy.

“This case is fundamentally about a mentally ill drug abuser who had access to guns and shouldn’t have,” Bloomberg said at a news conference Tuesday with members of Mayors Against Illegal Guns.

The political fallout from the attack on Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords has overwhelmingly focused on the heated state of political discourse, with debates on gun policy largely absent. But Bloomberg, a longtime supporter of gun control, said the conversation — specifically, stronger background checks — should be revisited.

Mayors and law enforcement officials joining Bloomberg said gaps in the system of federal background checks allowed Loughner to purchase guns and that thousands more could slip through the cracks.

“Based on what we know so far, the system that is supposed to protect us from dangerous and deranged people has failed once again,” Bloomberg said.

Bloomberg was also joined by Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.), who plans to introduce legislation that would make it illegal to carry a weapon within 1,000 feet of high-level government officials.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; democrats; guncontrol; liberalfascism; maig; reichstagfire

1 posted on 01/14/2011 2:40:08 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Pete King is an embarassment!


2 posted on 01/14/2011 2:43:45 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Planning on using 911? Google "Brittany Zimmerman")
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To: neverdem
Bloomberg: Let's talk gun control

Translation:

Lets talk about anything that will take the focus off the disaster my administration made of the snowstorm cleanup and my rock bottom approval rating.

3 posted on 01/14/2011 2:44:06 PM PST by apillar
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To: neverdem

Bloomberg = Liberal azzhole.


4 posted on 01/14/2011 2:44:19 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: neverdem

Let’s talk Kathy Black who told a group of parents that birth control would be the solution to overcrowding in their schools. She went on to say that it’s like a bunch of Sophie’s Choices.


5 posted on 01/14/2011 2:45:06 PM PST by Carley (THE MEDIA UNDERSTANDS CREDENTIALS BUT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND PRINCIPLES)
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To: neverdem
Bloomberg was also joined by Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.), who plans to introduce legislation that would make it illegal to carry a weapon within 1,000 feet of high-level government officials.

Bloomberg and King should explain how that would have stopped the AZ shootings. They also need to explain how I should know to avoid these "high-level government officials" while carrying. Maybe we can issue them crowns to wear so we know who are members of this elite ruling class.
6 posted on 01/14/2011 2:45:19 PM PST by weef
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To: maddog55

MIDGET Lib arsehole


7 posted on 01/14/2011 2:46:28 PM PST by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: neverdem

Opportunistic, Manipulative and Craven


8 posted on 01/14/2011 2:46:40 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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To: weef

“Bloomberg was also joined by Rep. Pete King (R-N.Y.), who plans to introduce legislation that would make it illegal to carry a weapon within 1,000 feet of high-level government officials.”

Here I was thinking that the legislation was intended to encourage law-abiding lunatics to improve their rifle marksmanship.


9 posted on 01/14/2011 2:47:45 PM PST by MeganC (I'm allergic to tequila. When I drink it I break out in handcuffs.)
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To: neverdem

Loughner wouldn’t have been able to purchase a gun if the dim-bulb, political hack masquerading as a sheriff had done his job. The grabbers like Bloomberg will ignore the incompetence of the sheriff while howling for more restrictions since the system didn’t protect us.


10 posted on 01/14/2011 2:48:51 PM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: neverdem

Still Thinking: Let’s not.


11 posted on 01/14/2011 2:49:27 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: neverdem
Jared Loughner is a poster child for democracy, as libs like Bloomie have defined it

An obviously disturbed individual is assiduously afforded every possible right and avoids any possible judgment, restriction of his movement and activities, legal requirement to obtain mental evaluation and treatment, nor any consequences or moral approbation for his actions

Until after he commits mayhem

Then libs like Bloomie blame “democracy”, as if it's some flaw of conservatism that common rubes just can't handle

12 posted on 01/14/2011 2:53:59 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Still Thinking
Bloomberg - Let's talk gun control. Or salt control, or food control, or caffein control, or bridge toll control.

How about Sanitation Dept control Nanny Bloomberg ?

13 posted on 01/14/2011 2:54:20 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; ...

Rest of nation: let’s talk impeachment.

Thanks neverdem.


14 posted on 01/14/2011 2:54:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: weef

Great

are high level govt officials gonna wear special t-shirts or something so the commoners know to stay 1000 feet away from them?

And of course this law will be honored by insane people who plan blood vendettas (sarc)


15 posted on 01/14/2011 2:56:55 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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Interesting how govt negligence leads to more law that further infringes upon our Liberties.


16 posted on 01/14/2011 2:59:57 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: neverdem
how bout SHERIFF control???

that mutt Sheriff DID NOT ARREST the bozo any of the several times he should have, which would have stopped or at least put a hold on the gun he bought!!!

17 posted on 01/14/2011 3:00:21 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: neverdem
Well,at least Bloomberg believes in Freedom of religion. Just ask the mosque builders.
18 posted on 01/14/2011 3:02:00 PM PST by 4yearlurker (I can't afford anymore hope and change!!!!)
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To: neverdem

We have a federal gun policy. IT IS CALLED THE 2D AMENDMENT STUPID!!! (Bloom is, not you never)


19 posted on 01/14/2011 3:04:24 PM PST by RetiredArmy (As the end times approach, I hope each here will discover the LORD. Seek Him out!)
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To: neverdem

I know I’ll get zapped for this but anyway... I once read a book by Dr. Erich Neuman (sp?) called “Depth Psychology and the New Ethic”. He was a student of Jung and put forth a theory that, succinctly, purports that there are no victims only volunteers. In this case of an attack on a member of Congress, his theory would state this. Politicians in general and members of Congress in particular in our present day society are not looked upon favorably (see the polls that show them in the teens). The collective subconscious (see Jung again) is therefore not holding any of these folks in the House or the Senate in any kind of esteem. They have put themselves in this position by the actions of a good many of their members (sex scandals, bribes, consorting with lobbyist, etc.) In this atmosphere of non-approval by the collective, it is very likely that some individuals who have severe mental problems will seek out targets of opportunity based on how the targets themselves have shown up on the horizon. This is not to say that the individual target in this case is in anyway responsible but that she happened to be a member of a class that have made themselves into magnets for nutcases. The nutcases pick these folks because they are on the skyline and, since everybody (the collective) holds the targets as flawed individuals, it seems ok to target them.

OK, go ahead and flame me. I’ve made myself a target 8}.


20 posted on 01/14/2011 3:05:20 PM PST by harrym
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To: neverdem
Yes. Lets talk Gun Control.

1. Always treat every Gun as if it was loaded.
2. Always point a Gun in a safe direction.
3. Never point a Gun at anything that you do not wish to shoot.
4. . . . .

21 posted on 01/14/2011 3:08:39 PM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: neverdem
He's going off on another foolish crusade.

Look at it this way - at any time, day or night, Bloomberg could go (even more) insane, grab a gun from one of his bodyguards, and go on a murderous rampage.

The only way to protect the public from that horrible eventuality is to proactively put Bloomberg into an institution where he will not be a danger to himself or to anybody else's life or liberty. After all, it's only common sense to do that, for the public's safety...

22 posted on 01/14/2011 3:20:25 PM PST by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: neverdem
So mayors who jet off to Bermuda before a blizzard and leave the cleanup to the union biggies can live without fear.

ML/NJ

23 posted on 01/14/2011 3:21:20 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: neverdem

What we really need is a law that prohibits the shooting of other people without cause.

Only then will we have peace in our society.

/sarc


24 posted on 01/14/2011 3:37:23 PM PST by Tzimisce (It's just another day in Obamaland.)
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To: neverdem

Let’s not and say we did.


25 posted on 01/14/2011 3:40:06 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Fear can hold you prisoner.Hope can set you free.(Shawshank Redemption))
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To: neverdem
Lets talk gun control? >>>>>>>>>> Gee Bloomy, I would be happy to meet you at the range and show you proper gun cotrol, the steady hand, the double tap, how to move and shoot. When do you want to go?
26 posted on 01/14/2011 3:41:21 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: weef
Bloomberg and King should explain how that would have stopped the AZ shootings.

That's simple! If that law would have been in place, the nut-job would NEVER have come within 1000' of the representative, and would have probably missed her when he opened fire on the crowd from over 1000' away!

It will work just as well as those "No Concealed Carry Weapons Allowed" signs in banks. After all, no back robber would ever take a gun into a bank that has one of those signs posted!

Mark

27 posted on 01/14/2011 3:51:20 PM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: neverdem

The whole thing is stupid. Nobody wants to see people murdered! Let’s just make murder illegal, and solve the problem once and for all!

Oh, wait...


28 posted on 01/14/2011 3:52:17 PM PST by dinodino
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To: neverdem

“Bloomberg: Let’s talk gun control”

X@#!NO! Conversation over.


29 posted on 01/14/2011 3:52:23 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: neverdem

Let’s talk “Bloomberg control”. Here is a man with several deep-rooted psychological problems, which he uses his elected political office to inflict on other people.

Case in point: He consumes so much salt in his food that guests to the governor’s mansion find it inedible. His solution? To restrict the salt intake of other people. Neurotic-tyrannical.

Another case: He is deeply afraid of assassination, surrounding himself with a phalanx of heavily armed guards. His initiative? To prevent anyone other than them from having guns. Again, neurotic-tyrannical.

Yet another: He used to smoke cigarettes, and found it unpleasant to quit. So, of course, they should be heavily taxed, if not outright banned. Another neurotic-tyrannical response.

New Yorkers had better hope to heaven that he has a happy sex life, or what will he do? Ban sex or try to tax it? Anything to project his own sorry self into the lives of others.

Perhaps the best solution would be to parachute Mayor Bloomberg on to an isolated and unoccupied island in the Pacific. Plenty of water and unsalted food. Then he can oppress the rocks and palm trees as much as he wants, and it won’t hurt others.


30 posted on 01/14/2011 3:56:47 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: harrym; Fred Nerks

Jung has a synchronisic ( acausal)approach to explaining events. Few understad it.

But I agree with what you say in part. Its also like a cull
by predators of the weak from the herd.They act improperly as a class to the point where they are dehumanized, and when they appear on the fringe of the herd, they are singled out for attack by the predators, who as humans happen to be insane ( killing for no specific cause except rage).

However, the leftist vitriol censors would say it wrong to dehumanize the class of politucians and make them fringe targets for the insane, when in fact the process is organic and uncontrollable, beyond judgement in fact, because it is acausal, socially evolutionary, and merely a way of understanding what is happening.Only totalitarian social methods could put an end to what is arguably a natural process.That the herd will never accept.

So now we see elitists resigning, refusing to offer for further electoral terms, and party hacks resigning out of fear. They are right to do so, and merge with the herd so as to be unrecognizeable, at least according to this Jungian understanding.

The herd will hardly divide itself and go to war over the matter, it will just keep pushing the politicians and the insane out to the fringes, where they can feed on one another according to this Jungian approach.Perhaps eventually they will simply do each other in.And the truth is that the insanity is not only in the predator. The politicians have their own version of insanity, and one need not look too far into the conduct of various politicians to see a version of the same insanity that effects the predators themselves. They seem to have that in common and have a similarity of predatory function.


31 posted on 01/14/2011 4:04:41 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: neverdem

Let’s start by disarming Bloomberg’s bodyguards.


32 posted on 01/14/2011 4:04:52 PM PST by Argus
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To: neverdem

Laws of convenience. They’re described in Atlas Shrugged, though not referred to as such. A law against carrying a firearm within 1000 ft of a legislator is a law of convenience; the authorities will use it as and when they find it convenient.


33 posted on 01/14/2011 4:15:21 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: harrym
I know I’ll get zapped for this but anyway... I once read a book by Dr. Erich Neuman (sp?) called “Depth Psychology and the New Ethic”. He was a student of Jung and put forth a theory that, succinctly, purports that there are no victims only volunteers. In this case of an attack on a member of Congress, his theory would state this. Politicians in general and members of Congress in particular in our present day society are not looked upon favorably (see the polls that show them in the teens). The collective subconscious (see Jung again) is therefore not holding any of these folks in the House or the Senate in any kind of esteem. They have put themselves in this position by the actions of a good many of their members (sex scandals, bribes, consorting with lobbyist, etc.) In this atmosphere of non-approval by the collective, it is very likely that some individuals who have severe mental problems will seek out targets of opportunity based on how the targets themselves have shown up on the horizon. This is not to say that the individual target in this case is in anyway responsible but that she happened to be a member of a class that have made themselves into magnets for nutcases. The nutcases pick these folks because they are on the skyline and, since everybody (the collective) holds the targets as flawed individuals, it seems ok to target them.

You said the same thing my father said, but he said in in a couple of sentences. He said about Judge Roll who decided in favor of illegal aliens, "in the eyes of many, paid the ultimate price for his decision" which was not liked by many. I'm a believer in karma, maybe this could be karma, I don't know. I know I might get some guff for this but this angle has to be covered too as you pointed out where unpopular people unfortunately make themselves targets for nutcases. My father added, "the politicians must share the blame of bringing public anger on themselves," and with the lame duck Congress' action, it has angered many. Most people know to control their anger into a constructive channel, but again, unpopular people make themselves targets for nutcases out there.

If I offended anyone, I do apologize, but I do think you brought out a factor that should be discussed and looked at even though it might not look good to do so.
34 posted on 01/14/2011 4:32:46 PM PST by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: neverdem
Mayors Against Illegal Guns

Welcome to Democrat Romper Room, Peter King. Your name is MAGGIE.
35 posted on 01/14/2011 4:43:03 PM PST by NightOfTheLivingDems
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To: neverdem

Let me get this straight: A liberal Arizona sheriff who failed miserably in dong his job of taking action, as authorized by law, to move to have the perp committed, speaks out against law abiding Americans who had nothing to do with this tragedy, is aligned with a liberal NYC mayor who failed to even manage the effective removal of snow from city streets, telling the rest of us that our Constitutional rights should be abridged so that they don’t look bad in the court of public opinion. Welcome to Obamaland - Rod Serling will be with you in a moment - just as soon as he helps the illegal aliens in line in front of you.


36 posted on 01/14/2011 5:17:21 PM PST by majormaturity
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To: neverdem
Bloomberg: Let's talk gun control

How about we talk stringing you up by your corrupt neck from the highest tree for treason against the Constitution of the United States of America?

37 posted on 01/14/2011 6:30:17 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (The future? Imagine Cass Sunstein's boot stamping on Lincoln's beard, forever.)
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To: neverdem

Next thing you know, those two wazoos (King & Bloomie) will be wanting to restrict cutlery sales because people are too fat.


38 posted on 01/14/2011 6:32:13 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: apillar

Regarding Obama, guns, and all standard-capacity magazines:

He’s coming to take them away, Ha-ha!
He’s coming to take them away!

THAT is what Obama meant by the wildly-cheered code words in his Tucson speech: “We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.” aka Gun BANS!


39 posted on 01/14/2011 7:12:42 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: apillar

Regarding Obama, guns, and all standard-capacity magazines:

He’s coming to take them away, Ha-ha!
He’s coming to take them away!

THAT is what Obama meant by the wildly-cheered code words in his Tucson speech: “We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.” aka Gun BANS!


40 posted on 01/14/2011 7:14:40 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: weef

“They also need to explain how I should know to avoid these “high-level government officials” while carrying.”

Easy! You DON”T carry! It is ILLEGAL!!


41 posted on 01/14/2011 7:18:04 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: 2harddrive
Note to Mike Bloomberg: Better than talking gun control is Bloomberg control; as in tossing you out on the dung pile of failed politicians. Mike, shut up!
42 posted on 01/15/2011 3:15:42 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: neverdem
Bloomberg: Let's talk gun control

Sure Bloomie. Let's 'talk about it'.

Like when you and any family members of yours (including a 3rd cousin, twice removed), move into the South Bronx, a gang infested part of Brooklyn, or somewhere in Harlem.

And, you have no access to any of your Billions for a couple years, and have to live on $1,000 a week before taxes, in Public Housing, have no PD protection, no Armed Guards, no Car, and have to take Public Transportation and walk the streets of NYC at midnight like the peons.

Then. Get back to us on 'gun control'.

(((((( crickets ))))))

43 posted on 01/15/2011 5:38:36 AM PST by Condor51 (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.)
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To: maddog55
Bloomberg = Liberal azzhole

my pre-written response to all things Bloomberg:

Bloomers is a Crony-capitalist, nebbish, poor little rich boy, self hating jew, tiny buttwipe of a man...the only reason he is probably not a fag (the jury is still out) is that he has the greatest aphrodisiac of all time, billions of dollars....he decries the 2nd amendment, but whines about how the enemy’s first amendment rights to worship are being usurped....even though Islam is NOT a religion but a murder cult.. © Vaquero 2010, 2011

44 posted on 01/15/2011 7:09:34 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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