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Virus attacking Iran nuke program is Israeli
Israel Today Magazine ^ | Sunday, January 16, 2011 | Ryan Jones

Posted on 01/16/2011 7:49:05 PM PST by Sharondownunderinnz

The New York Times reported rather conclusively on Saturday that the super-advanced computer virus that has at least partially crippled Iran’s nuclear program was developed and tested by Israel, with American involvement.

Known as Stuxnet, the virus was first identified “in the wild” about two years ago. About one year ago, it infected the computers that control the uranium enrichment plant at Natanz in central Iran. By all accounts, Stuxnet has to date managed to knock out 984 centrifuges and has, according to Israeli officials, set back Iran’s nuclear program by a good three-to-four years.

According to the report, the idea for the virus was birthed after Israel requested bombs and a green light from the US to launch a military assault on Iran’s nuclear facilities. Told that such an assault would not end Iran’s nuclear program, but merely set it back by several years, former US President George W. Bush said no.

So, work began on another way to achieve the same goal without sparking a Middle East war.

One of the keys to the plan were the computer controllers made by the German technology firm Siemens, which US intelligence had learned were being used at the Natanz plant. American engineers spent time analyzing the potential security holes in the Siemens machines.

But there was a hiccup.

Iran is apparently using centrifuges modeled on the now-archaic designs of Pakistani scientist A. Q. Khan. America had gotten its hands on a large stockpile of these centrifuges when Libya dismantled its nuclear program in 2003, but US and British engineers failed to get the things to operate in a stable manner.

That’s where Israel comes in. At the nuclear base in the southern Israel town of Dimona, engineers did manage, reportedly after much trial and error, to get the outdated centrifuges to run stably and were able to test the meticulously-crafted computer worm on them.

Computer security experts who have since deconstructed Stuxnet say it is a work of art, and by far the most advanced computer virus ever created.

Stuxnet has infected countless industrial computers around the world, but was very carefully coded to only attack a very specific kind of system performing a very specific kind of task.

Basically, the way Stuxnet works is that is causes the centrifuges to spin so fast that they begin to wobble and tear themselves apart. But that’s not enough, as the computer controllers that run the centrifuges are programmed to shut down at the first sign of trouble. So, Stuxnet was also programmed to fool the computer controllers by sending signals indicated that all was well with the centrifuges, when in reality they were self-destructing.

And Stuxnet might not be done. One expert who examined the code said the virus has the ability to hibernate and self-replicate, hiding itself deep inside a computer system undetected only to reemerge and again cause havoc at a later date.

Both Israel and the US continue to assert they have no connection to Stuxnet, though it is now widely believed that the Israeli army’s vaunted Unit 8200, the equivalent of American’s National Security Agency, was the originator.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: centrifuges; iran; israel; stuxnet; worm
Interesting! More than one way to kill a cat it seems!
1 posted on 01/16/2011 7:49:08 PM PST by Sharondownunderinnz
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

A book about this virus, its creators and its implementation is something I’d really like to read someday. Awesome stuff.


2 posted on 01/16/2011 7:53:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz
The New York Times reported rather conclusively

Is that supposed to mean something?

3 posted on 01/16/2011 7:53:52 PM PST by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

So how did Iran’s computers get infected? Did someone there open a spam viagra e-mail in the nuclear facilities?


4 posted on 01/16/2011 7:56:01 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Oy Vey...


5 posted on 01/16/2011 7:56:31 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Inyo-Mono

LOL I was wondering the same thing.


6 posted on 01/16/2011 7:57:06 PM PST by brytlea
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Unlike “others”, No innocents were harmed in this attack. I wonder if Iran would make sure no innocent civilians were harmed in an attack on Israeli nuke plant?


7 posted on 01/16/2011 7:58:59 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Yay Israel!!


8 posted on 01/16/2011 8:00:09 PM PST by Brent in TN (Please Use Care)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Of course, the Old Gray Whore MUST complete the job its philosophical master, Hitler, began.

Godwin’s law be damned — the NYT won’t be satisfied until Israel is destroyed and every Jew on earth removed.

And the NY Jews will continue to use Mitzvah to mask Holocaust, even after the prior generation encountered the latter.


9 posted on 01/16/2011 8:00:42 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Nothing sharpens the mind like not being able to get a job. /Nonstatist)
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To: Inyo-Mono; brytlea
So how did Iran’s computers get infected?


10 posted on 01/16/2011 8:01:52 PM PST by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz
They should have downloaded the free version of AVG anti-virus.
11 posted on 01/16/2011 8:05:28 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Sharondownunderinnz
If the Iranian leader, Amanutjob, believes this yarn, isn't he likely to plan an attack of some sort on our country as well as Israel ?
Somehow, I don't believe we were were involved because it would be to our advantage to solve the “Iran Problem” without starting the Last World War. Some folks just don't get it, a nuclear shootout can not be won by anyone.
12 posted on 01/16/2011 8:08:15 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz
The New York Times reported rather conclusively on Saturday that the super-advanced computer virus that has at least partially crippled Iran’s nuclear program was developed and tested by Israel, with American involvement.

Didn't the New York Times or some folks that work there report that Sarah Palin is the real culprit in Tucson? It would be better if some other paper reported something 'conclusively.' The NYT is incapable of concluding much of anything.

13 posted on 01/16/2011 8:09:40 PM PST by stevem
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To: Brent in TN

Amen to that! I am so glad they have realized they can’t trust the US as an ally. The American voters have stabbed Israel in the back, but thank the Lord that the Israelis have the will to live even if US voters are too stupid to have the will to live.

I know that Orthodox Jews view Israel as the Suffering Servant, and in many ways I think that is true. Much of the security of the whole world falls to them.

That was one of the things I thought about when asked back in 2008 whether I’d prefer Obama or Hillary. At least Hillary would not have been so willing to turn her back on Israel, since Bill at least claims to subscribe to a religious denomination that believes whoever turns their back on Israel is cursed. That’s a TON better than Obama, who (allegedly) told the Egyptian ambassador that he “was and still is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda.”

I say “allegedly” because nobody has been able to turn up a video of the broadcast where the Egyptian ambassador gave his account of what Obama told him - either to prove that’s what the Egyptian ambassador claimed or to prove that it isn’t. Seems like there should be an archived copy of that show somewhere, but like everything associated with Obama it’s gone down the memory hole. Which leads me to believe that the ambassador actually did say that on air; otherwise we’d have seen the video showing that he didn’t.


14 posted on 01/16/2011 8:10:42 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Equivalent to the AIDS virus in the human body. Should have used a computer condom or practiced web abstinence. Love waits....eheheheh!


15 posted on 01/16/2011 8:11:09 PM PST by tflabo
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To: Libloather

Ok, but who initially had an infected removable drive to insert into one of Iran’s secret computers?


16 posted on 01/16/2011 8:13:42 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: Libloather

Does Stuxnet rest on the sabbath? Oyyyyyyyyyyyy!


17 posted on 01/16/2011 8:13:48 PM PST by tflabo
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To: Sharondownunderinnz
A secondary effect will be the loss of productivity the Iranians cause themselves. No-doubt they have, are, and will continue to implement draconian security measures to ensure they do not fall victim to something like this again. Not only do these procedures burn resources directly, these kinds of things tend to have serious negative effects on moral and productivity.

The beautiful part is, there is no-way Iran can avoid this second (ary) hit. If they don't take extreme measures, they will get hit again by a cyber attack. If they do take extreme measures, they can (maybe) protect themselves, at the cost of productivity. Either way, we win, they lose.

18 posted on 01/16/2011 8:14:11 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Thanks for posting.


19 posted on 01/16/2011 8:16:42 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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To: butterdezillion

According to the NYT account, GWB authorized the Stuxnet operation at tail end of his administration and Obama allegedly ordered it sped up. The idea was to buy more time, as absent a slowdown, my impression is that Israelis would have felt forced to take out Iranian facilities with nuclear force. NYT claims that it has slowed things down by about 3 years, which frankly is a relief to me, since by the time a decision has to be made to take military action, Obama will no longer be in WH etc.


20 posted on 01/16/2011 8:18:26 PM PST by DrC
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To: Inyo-Mono
Ok, but who initially had an infected removable drive to insert into one of Iran’s secret computers?

I think it originated from one of my replies right here on FR. Got protection?

21 posted on 01/16/2011 8:20:06 PM PST by Libloather (Teapublican, PROUD birther, mobster, pro-lifer, anti-warmer, enemy of the state, extremist....)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz
Yawn!!

Even if it was TESTED by Israel it still dont mean that they even had a hand in creating it and besides just how can the NY Slimes prove that Israel even had contact in developing and/or testing it?

This is just the usual anti-Semite smear from the the left.

22 posted on 01/16/2011 8:20:26 PM PST by prophetic (0Bama = 1 illegal president = 32 illegal, unconstitutional & unnecessary CZARS to do his job!!)
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To: butterdezillion
Since when did the “American people” desert Israel? There is no doubt that Obama wants to toss them under the bus. I suspect that the majority of Americans support them in their fight to survive.
23 posted on 01/16/2011 8:20:30 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Inyo-Mono

“So how did Iran’s computers get infected?”

From what I have read else where, the Iranian nuclear facility was not connected to the internet. So what they did was generally send it out to get on the laptops of Iranian nuclear scientist and some of them took their laptops into the secure facility and plug into the system there and voila.


24 posted on 01/16/2011 8:23:52 PM PST by JLS (Democrats: People who won't even let you enjoy an unseasonably warm winter day.)
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To: JLS

Ok, that’s plausible. Thanks


25 posted on 01/16/2011 8:26:20 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: ANGGAPO

When the American voters elected Obama their stupidity betrayed Israel.


26 posted on 01/16/2011 8:26:57 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Wouldn’t it have been better if all this had been kept secret. Aren’t we just setting our selves up as a target by rubbing their noses in it.

Glad to know the news just not sure if I needed to know.


27 posted on 01/16/2011 8:27:49 PM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

The NYT is a super-retarded virus designed to attack the US of A.


28 posted on 01/16/2011 8:31:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

I am so happy anytime anything bad happens to the current Iranian regime. I wish their entire military would self immolate. Iran has attacked the U.S. over and over again and we never do anything about it. They have done far more evil to us than Saddam ever did.

It was interesting how that virus worked. I just assumed it attacked their computers and wondered why they could not just replace them. Glad to know it destroyed their equipment too.


29 posted on 01/16/2011 8:35:45 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Inyo-Mono

Dear Mr. Ahmadinejad:

This is to inform you that we at the Nigerian Department of Energy have a surplus of yellowcake uranium due to a procurement error.

If you will help us to complete this transaction, a portion of this surplus can be made available to you...


30 posted on 01/16/2011 8:38:32 PM PST by Hunton Peck ("Round up the usual Tea Partiers!")
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

Here’s hoping for Stuxnet II and Stuxnet III to be launched against Iran’s nuke program. Also for more of their nuke scientists to ‘meet Allah’ via explosives taped to car winshields.


31 posted on 01/16/2011 8:39:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

I hope the crazy Persian dictators are scared to death thinking that other critical systems throughout Iran are similarly infected by other tailor made viruses. If one can be crafted in such a manner to remain undetected and specific to a task, what other “enemies” of Israel and the West could be dealt catastrophic blows in the future, with systems ranging from nuclear facilities to infrastructure to military capabilities.

It’s a new world.


32 posted on 01/16/2011 8:42:31 PM PST by Thumper1960 (A modern so-called "Conservative" is a shadow of a wisp of a vertebrate human being.)
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To: Hunton Peck

haha! thanks for the laugh:)


33 posted on 01/16/2011 8:56:05 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

You can bet China or Russia is working on the same thing to use against us someday.


34 posted on 01/16/2011 9:14:23 PM PST by italybub
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To: prophetic
This is just the usual anti-Semite smear from the the left.

Only if you think there's something wrong with Israel mounting a cyberattack to harm Iran's nuke program. I certainly don't. In fact, kudos to them, because this thing was definitely a very targeted and sophisticated attack and did the world a huge favor.

The Times doesn't really have a scoop here. There were signs pointing to this being an Israeli operation, possibly with the involvement of the US and Germany late last year, at least in the security industry anyway. I had already come to the conclusion that it was probably an Israeli op by early November.

Can it be proven? No, I don't think so. But it's pretty darn likely.

35 posted on 01/16/2011 9:23:22 PM PST by DaisyCutter
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

stuxnet bump for later........


36 posted on 01/16/2011 9:47:08 PM PST by indthkr
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To: tflabo

I like your post!!!


37 posted on 01/16/2011 10:56:44 PM PST by Sharondownunderinnz
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To: Sharondownunderinnz

How did they know the virus was Jewish? Did it wear a yamulka? Did it refuse to work on Saturdays?

Sneaky way they got the Iranians to download the virus, too, hiding it on a site for goat porn.


38 posted on 01/16/2011 11:19:35 PM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Thumper1960
Yep, another reason to try off the grid living (or as independently as possible).
39 posted on 01/17/2011 6:56:22 AM PST by 2001convSVT (That Beck guy was right about gold, too.)
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40 posted on 01/17/2011 8:30:20 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: ANGGAPO
...a nuclear shootout can not be won by anyone.

How do we know that, exactly? Besides their one sided use over Japan, it´s never happened.

I think we can win a nuclear war. And I want our enemies to think so too. Because if we´re not willing, those enemies always are. And inevitably, they will if we won´t.

41 posted on 01/17/2011 1:26:47 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Libloather

So, is it routine for people to use tainted removable drives?


42 posted on 01/17/2011 2:55:10 PM PST by brytlea
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To: Libloather
"The New York Times reported rather conclusively..."

- Is that supposed to mean something? -

Yes. It means, rather conclusively, that the NY Times hates Israel and is working for the Arabs.

43 posted on 01/17/2011 3:01:32 PM PST by airborne (Why is it we won't allow the Bible in school, but we will in prison? Think about it.)
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To: onedoug
Just got around to this. Unfortunately, I visited both cities in Japan that were targeted, about a month after they were vaporized. And those two devices were poor examples of what exists today.
44 posted on 01/24/2011 11:16:38 AM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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