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California may have the highest costs for charging electric vehicles
Los Angeles Times ^ | January 14, 2011 | Tiffany Hsu

Posted on 01/16/2011 8:39:26 PM PST by Rabin

Electric-car makers and utilities said most owners will probably charge their vehicles at night when the rates are lower. But because of the tiered rate system, their electricity bills will still probably be high… One plug-in hybrid Volt would increase the average household's electrical usage 60%...

California households pay steeper rates for their electricity compared with other states -- about 35% more than the national average...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; US: California
KEYWORDS: electricvehicles
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An unfortunate reality is coming to the front. The O so clean/green plug-it-in, must have an origin. California's path usually leads the nation
1 posted on 01/16/2011 8:39:31 PM PST by Rabin
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Assuming ANY ONE buys them.


2 posted on 01/16/2011 8:41:05 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Gosh, adding electric cars to an already strapped grid?

Who could have possibly seen this coming?


3 posted on 01/16/2011 8:43:04 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: Rabin

California will raise the cost of anything and nothing to cover the government shortfall if you use it or if you don’t use it you will still pay.


4 posted on 01/16/2011 8:43:29 PM PST by handy old one (If you play in nature be prepared to be played with by nature!)
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To: Rabin
California households pay steeper rates for their electricity compared with other states -- about 35% more than the national average...

Gee I wonder why? And they want AZ to take their pollution and build the power plants over here in our desert. I have some choice words for Californians that refuse to build their own electricity plants because they want CLEAN air and the rest of us can just suck it up. There is also their desire to have all GREEN energy which is the biggest myth on the planet.
5 posted on 01/16/2011 8:44:19 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Rabin
Demand on electricity increases and no new power plants. California is trying to dismantle damns and surely will fight Nuke Power so where does that leave us? Brown and Black outs.
6 posted on 01/16/2011 8:44:46 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Because the left is ugly and the right is beautiful.)
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To: Rabin

A lot of liberal tree huggers will rush out to buy one.

And then figuratively later on down the road will find out what a power addict they will become.

Power thefts will be on the rise, I can just imagine certain individuals able to secretly tap into power transmissions lines and starting a black market charging station.

A car speak-easy, drop it off for a cheap recharge?


7 posted on 01/16/2011 8:45:32 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Cheerio

Yup. Those idiots won’t build new new nuclear power plants. As far they are concerned, electricity happens when you plug it in and flip the power switch.


8 posted on 01/16/2011 8:46:09 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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Everything costs more in California.


9 posted on 01/16/2011 8:47:20 PM PST by Roklok
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To: goldstategop

I have met my West Coast family and some were impressive, others not so much. I am going to invite them to the Redneck Riviera this summer and let them decide.


10 posted on 01/16/2011 8:48:55 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Rabin

When “Moonbeam Brown” was governor first time around he did everything he could to shut down the Nuclear Power Industry in California. He felt that efficiency could solve all the problems. Nothing wrong with efficiency but the buffoon never accounted for California’s population doubling between the time he left office his first stint as governor and when he went in the second time. Yes, the population doubled! Now there is no way you can handle that increased demand with simple energy savings. Solar and Wind are not gonna work and will be VERY expensive. How are you gonna charge up your Chevy Volt at night with energy from solar collectors? Guess these geniuses haven’t figured that out.


11 posted on 01/16/2011 8:51:38 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Rabin

Someone is going to have to burn a lot of coal to provide the electricity to charge up those “clean” puppies. Producing electricity is not cheap.


12 posted on 01/16/2011 8:53:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("New laws are always a "good idea" until the first time you have to enforce them." - Unknown)
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Yes, the population doubled! Now there is no way you can handle that increased demand with simple energy savings

Sure there is...if 50% of the population leaves the state. This just might happen, like it did in Detroit.

13 posted on 01/16/2011 8:54:32 PM PST by Prokopton
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Just for the hell of it I called a local electricial contractor to get an estimate for the installation of a plug in charge station at my home. Hang on folks — $2850+!
I don’t think so! Screw the Greenies and Al Bore!


14 posted on 01/16/2011 8:54:59 PM PST by TaMoDee
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California households pay steeper rates for their electricity compared with other states — about 35% more than the national average, according to the study.

Well, that is simple to fix: pass a law...

Later, pass another law, and implement new regulations, that the utilities MUST keep generating and selling...

Then pass another law....

15 posted on 01/16/2011 8:56:40 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Made in America, by proud American citizens, in 1946.)
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"Gosh, adding electric cars to an already strapped grid? Who could have possibly seen this coming?"

Virtually no one in the State of California, apparently...

16 posted on 01/16/2011 8:57:04 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: Rabin

I have always wondered about the batteries. If say after a year or two have they degraded enough so that you don’t get near the milage range that a set of new batteries would. Say the range new is 200 miles after a full charge. Maybe after two years and a lot of charges would the range be down to say 150 miles?


17 posted on 01/16/2011 8:58:26 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: Redbob

California, its new state motto:

The Brownout State.


18 posted on 01/16/2011 9:00:03 PM PST by Eye of Unk
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To: Rabin

1 HP is roughly equal to 750 watts
To drive the Volt at highway speeds takes say 10 HP minimum, or 7500 watts.
You run it for an hour, you’ll have to put that much energy back into it, 7500 watt-hours.

That’s the equivalent of running your 150 watt outdoor light for 50 hours (!) - and these are VERY conservative figures that don’t take charging efficiencies (or lack thereof) into account.


19 posted on 01/16/2011 9:04:17 PM PST by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

> Producing electricity is not cheap.<

burning coal —> cheap electricity


20 posted on 01/16/2011 9:07:35 PM PST by Talf
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