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Liberal Radio Host/Lawyer Perpetuates Slander That Dallas Schoolchildren Cheered News of JFK's Death
newsbusters ^ | 16 Jan 2011 | Jack Coleman

Posted on 01/17/2011 12:42:26 AM PST by smokingfrog

How do we know that grade-school students in Dallas spontaneously cheered the news that President John F. Kennedy was murdered in their city?

Because it's been repeated ad infinitum for almost half a century. Therefore it must be true, right?

It's a belief that's taken on the aura of holy writ to liberals, thanks to propapandists like radio host and lawyer Mike Papantonio in preserving its mythology for each new generation of true believers.

You'd think someone who practices law would know better. Then again, you might not.

Appearing on Ed Schultz's radio show Thursday, "Ring of Fire" radio program co-host Papantonio talked about President Obama's remarks at the Tucson memorial service and drew a parallel between current-day political rancor and the toxic divisions of the early 1960s --

PAPANTONIO: As I listened to him, I remembered something, though. I remembered that hate is like ink in water in the way it spreads. And I wish, you know, I know he had to be careful on the way that he dealt with this issue, but it's an important issue. And that is the way hate spreads. I think about the 1960s. You had right-wing billionaires fueling hatred against John F. Kennedy, the same way, I mean exactly, Ed, the same way they're doing it today. You had, crowd hatred doesn't just happen, it usually takes money to egg it on. And that's what we saw in the '60s with John F. Kennedy. When Secret Service, Ed, begged Kennedy not to go to Dallas, it's because they feared for his life. It wasn't because they expected a Lee Harvey Oswald-type of assassination.

As in, left-wing "type" of assassination. Decades later, liberals still shrink from the specifics --

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: danrather; liberallies; mediabias
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1 posted on 01/17/2011 12:42:35 AM PST by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog

JFK’s nephew recently recited the same lie in his statement about Tucson.


2 posted on 01/17/2011 12:51:09 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: smokingfrog

Blood libel.


3 posted on 01/17/2011 12:58:53 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (I Love Catholic Nerds)
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To: smokingfrog

Anyone here from Texas at that time?


4 posted on 01/17/2011 1:02:44 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: D-fendr

I guess Texans will never be able to live down Dan Blather.


5 posted on 01/17/2011 1:04:05 AM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I was in grade school in a small town outside of Corpus Christi, Texas when JFK was killed. I remember our teacher making us put our heads down on our desk while she cried. I remember, as a third grader, we really didn’t understand the magnitude of the event, only that it must be great, due to our teacher crying. I do not remember anyone being happy, just the opposite. We knew someone, our president, had been killed. The schools were closed and we were sent home for the rest of the week.


6 posted on 01/17/2011 1:31:38 AM PST by WesternPacific (Deafness has its Advantages)
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To: smokingfrog
Everything is a fantasy for liberals.

The citizen with a gun that helped subdue Loughner last week in Tucson "could have shot the wrong person" except that he didn't.

JFK "could have been killed by a right-winger" except that he wasn't.

RFK "could have been killed by a right-winger" except that he wasn't either.

Reagan "could have started a nuclear war with the Soviet Union" except that he didn't.

Christians "could be as murderous as Muslims" except that they aren't.

Socialism "could work if given a chance" except that it never has in spite of dozens of nations trying it.

Concealed firearms permits "could result in a bloodbath" except that the opposite happens.

0bambi "could be a natural born citizen" except that he hasn't proved it.

0bambi "could be really smart" except that all his school records are sealed.

7 posted on 01/17/2011 1:37:27 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: smokingfrog

The Left lives to exploit children. What a freak.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 1:37:54 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Yes, I was in D-FW at the time. Nobody was happy. It was a shocking tragedy. But tongues did soon wag about LBJ, and the perception that he may have had something to do with it.

Personally, I don't know that he did, but I do know that when the Interstate 635 "Loop" was named LBJ Freeway, folks in other parts of the country seized on that to say, "see? they make him [LBJ] a hero. they all hate JFK down there in bad 'ol Dallas..." or worse.

Schoolkids of that day didn't cheer. That is total horse-droppings, period. Conventional culture was far more polite then, than it is now. Along with there being one hellava lot more registered Democrats per percentage of population there in Dallas-Ft.Worth, than there is today, or so I get the impression.

All this stuff about schoolkids being happy about the Presidential assassination in '63 is less true [even!] than Jared the crazy-red-thong posing whack-job being influenced by Sara Palin (of all people, sheeshs) to go shoot people.

Meaning, it is utter & complete fabrication.

9 posted on 01/17/2011 1:43:32 AM PST by BlueDragon
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To: WesternPacific
I was in the third grade too and like you didn't understand the magnitude of it. My teacher told us nothing but an older friend told me about it when school let out. He was upset but I still didn't get it.

When I got home my Goldwater Republican mother was sitting in front of the TV crying her eyes out. I asked her "Why are you crying? You didn't even vote for him." She replied "Because he is our President." That is how most people were then. There was no joy anywhere in my neighborhood and it was probably a predominately Republican area.

The author is just one more liberal lying sack of dog feces.

10 posted on 01/17/2011 2:04:31 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: smokingfrog
This is FACT! I was listening to Garrison Keillor's public radio show the Saturday (June 5, 2004) he announced that Ronald Reagan died. Mr. Keillor made the announcement at the beginning of the show.

The audience erupted in wild cheering, applause, and screams of delight.

Again it was radio I did not see Mr. Keillor's reaction to the audience's joy.. it must have been with somewhat disapproval however because the audience quieted down.

I do remember the day JFK was assassinated. Among the people I knew there were already jokes that day like "Well, Jack, besides that what did you think of the parade?"

.. but none was anything like delighted that it happened. No one had even imagined that it could happen. It happened.

11 posted on 01/17/2011 2:17:04 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I was in grade school 200 miles West of Dallas that day. We had just came back from lunch. I remember I was in the boys room when a buddy stuck his head in and yelled Kennedy had been shot. Nobody cheered. I remember we were all in shock. It was as if something bad was going to happen. When we got to our history class, our teacher Mr. Allen said yes, the president had been shot. Within seconds the principal came on the intercom and gave the shocking announcement. Immediately, girls in our class began wailing. Loudly. It echoed in unison from other classrooms. School was let out and when I got home I found my mother sitting on the floor in front of the tv crying. She did not like Kennedy. So to answer you’re question, nobody in West Texas cheered to my knowledge. We were all sad and frightened. What were the Russian’s going to do? We lived near a SAC base that went on full alert. If it came to war, our town was toast. Yeah, it was a long time ago, yet it remains very vivid in my mind. Bit of history. My dad did his internship at Parkland hospital. His buddy, Malcolm Perry was the attending phycisian for President Kennedy. Malcolm and dad died about five years ago.


12 posted on 01/17/2011 2:24:44 AM PST by minespacer
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To: BlueDragon

Just finished Basic Training when the Cuban Mille Crisis came along. Was later stationed in SoCal then and after having to “Standby” for hours on-end in the hot sun at Palm Springs while JFK and Jackie meandered around did bring out a cheer from me when hearing the news.

He was a pompass ass who almost got us all nuked. Piss on him and every kennedy.


13 posted on 01/17/2011 4:20:12 AM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: TigersEye

I was in Houston in elementary school at lunch and a kid who was often in the principal’s office rushed in to tell us. There was NO cheering but shock and sadness. When I got home I was surprised that my right wing mother was very sad because she had disliked JFK so much that she gave me anti-New Frontier coloring books! Now I understand that at a time like that, politics were forgotten.


14 posted on 01/17/2011 4:33:55 AM PST by Moonmad27 ("I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." Jessica Rabbit)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Among the people I knew there were already jokes that day like "Well, Jack, besides that what did you think of the parade?"

At least early on I think most jokes were recycled Lincoln jokes.

I sure as heck didn't hear anyone cheer.

As a real little kid I understood that the President was shot but why was it was too dangerous to go out to play?

My mother was so upset she was irrational.

15 posted on 01/17/2011 4:35:51 AM PST by Eaker (In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity. Albert Einstein)
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To: TigersEye

Great post!


16 posted on 01/17/2011 4:38:36 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: smokingfrog

I would have to say “Bull Shit” to that claim of children cheering.

I remember sitting in my third grade classroom when an announcement was made. The teacher became real sad and said that school was to be closed and we were all to go home. We were confused and didn’t know what was going on so we walked home.

When I got home my mother was sitting in front of the TV crying. That’s when it sunk in that the President had been killed.


17 posted on 01/17/2011 4:44:07 AM PST by PeteB570 (Islam is the sea in which the terrorist shark swims. It aids & comforts the shark on it's journey.)
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To: smokingfrog

No, that would have been Reagan. I don’t know if my memory is correct, but wasn’t it momentarily announced that he had died? Or was that Brady?


18 posted on 01/17/2011 4:54:54 AM PST by Mygirlsmom (The Zodiac signs were adjusted. Obama is now a Cancer, but you already knew that, didn't you?)
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To: PeteB570

I, too, call BS. My father was a huge supporter of Nixon and did not like Kennedy in the least. However, after the assassination school was let out( I was in the seventh grade) and I remember riding my bike home, only to find my father already home sitting on the front steps. He was distraught over the assassination and was proud of me for being the same way. Conservatives are not evil, and we have the truest of human emotions. We want to beat the Progressives, but we want to do so at the ballot box and not through gun play.


19 posted on 01/17/2011 4:55:43 AM PST by burghguy
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To: WesternPacific
I live up here in MN and had the same experience. Our teacher broke down and sobbed - nearly all of us were grieved. When we watched the funeral, my mother wept (a Nixon patriot then, conservative now). Americans respected their institutions (evidence the media covering for JFK) and our belief in our system was nearly religious. Nearly 50 years of leftist dominance in gub’mint, media and education have almost destroyed this confidence, but it has had unexpected consequences . . .

When the movie ‘Independence Day’ came out, I saw it in the theaters. In the scene where the White House gets fried by the aliens, the entire auditorium (an evening crowd - full house) erupted in cheers. Remember, of course, that this film came out in the midst of the krinton reign. Seems the rabble is just as disposed to off the emperors as well as the media made conservative villains.

20 posted on 01/17/2011 4:59:31 AM PST by WorkingClassFilth
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To: dusttoyou

We lived in NYC, and I went to a catholic elementary school. The nuns were freaking out, and us kids didn’t know what to think. That week-end the city was about the most quiet I had ever known it to be. All this was followed by Oswald getting whacked on nationwide TV, and then the riots soon thereafter. The world had changed, and not in a good way. I doubt JFK would have gotten re-elected; there was too much unrest, especially in the South. His demise in the fashion that defined it was not, however, constuctive or beneficial. Personally, I blame RFK for a whole lot of the assassination that ensued, and also LBJ. Both were dirty in this.


21 posted on 01/17/2011 5:26:56 AM PST by tenthirteen
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To: smokingfrog

My husband and his crazy uncle were just arguing about this after the AZ shooting. Ray is positive that Oswald was set up by his right-wing handlers and no amount of facts will change that in Ray’s mind.

I don’t bother with any discussions with Ray & I keep reminding my husband about the saying “Never try to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time & annoys the pig”, but my husband still tries to bring a bit of common sense into his uncle’s life.


22 posted on 01/17/2011 5:31:40 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: KosmicKitty; smokingfrog
Think crazy uncle saw this photo? http://www.tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm
23 posted on 01/17/2011 5:39:41 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: smokingfrog
I was in 7th Grade in Houston when he was shot, and I can distinctly remember the celebratory cheers, hoots and hollers when my teacher announced it. Even my teacher had a bemused smirk on her face. It was disgusting.

Oh wait, you're talking about KENNEDY!? All of the above happened when Ronald Reagan was shot. Sorry about that.

Guess no liberal radio host wants to talk about that, though.

24 posted on 01/17/2011 5:43:55 AM PST by Carlucci (Don't care what religion my president is, as long as he worships -- THE CONSTITUTION!)
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To: wolfcreek

Oh yeah, he brings up Bush 1 as being in on a the kill Kennedy conspiracy.


25 posted on 01/17/2011 5:47:54 AM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: tenthirteen
blame RFK for a whole lot of the assassination that ensued, and also LBJ. Both were dirty in this.

RFK and JFK were idiots way over their heads on every aspect. To their demise they both underestimated and tried to play LBJ for some local yocal. But LBJ was a much smarter “dirty” politician, much bigger crook and even after all this time still seems to be the instagator behind both their hits. To a certain degree Lyndon did us a favor, RFK would have been crowned by the sheeple and would have been worse than even nobama. Ending up with LBJ proved far worse for America in the long run.

26 posted on 01/17/2011 6:01:14 AM PST by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I was in a parochial school, and there were no cheers that day.


27 posted on 01/17/2011 6:07:40 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (America has two cancers - democrats and RINOS.)
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To: KosmicKitty

Here’s a little bit on why people might think that.

http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/mhp/ArticleDisplay.php?Article=BushCh08-2


28 posted on 01/17/2011 11:03:08 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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To: wolfcreek

You should call Michael Medved on conspiracy day (Thursdays, I think) with that one.


29 posted on 01/17/2011 1:33:12 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Thanks. This whole thread is an amazing testimonial to what really happened in classrooms and homes that day. JFK’s assassination hit this country like 9-11-01 did. Maybe even harder.


30 posted on 01/17/2011 2:57:17 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: smokingfrog

Unfortunately, I had the opposite experience.

I was sitting in the auditorium with all the other boys in junior high in Houston. The coach was delivering a lecture on venereal disease. Another coach walked on stage, very distraught, and said, “Boys, I have terrible news. President Kennedy has been shot”.

A number of kids, the worst bigots and bullies in the school, STOOD UP AND CHEERED. They were dixiecrats and hated Kennedy for backing civil rights. I estimate that about one third of the boys cheered.

The next year in history class discussion, I expressed support for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (I already considered myself a Republican). This particular teacher, Mr. Roach (his actual name), had a Confederate flag in his classroom instead of the American flag. He stood up and said, “A’hm gonna go get a drink o’ water. You boys don’t make too much noise.”

The moment he left the room I got jumped by five dixiecrats. Some desks got knocked over, but I won. He walked back in and was very unhappy to see me still standing.

I grew up in the bad old days of bigotry and prejudice. My parents were not bigots and taught me to treat all people as equal. Oh yeah, I remember being four years old and some lady yelled at me in Weingarten’s Grocery Store for drinking from the “Black” water fountain. I ignored her.

Texas has changed. I still meet a few bigots, but most of them are democrats.


31 posted on 01/17/2011 3:04:53 PM PST by darth
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To: minespacer

Thanks for repeating your memories of that sad day.


32 posted on 01/17/2011 3:11:44 PM PST by LowOiL ("Abomination" sure sounds like "ObamaNation" to me.)
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To: smokingfrog

I wrote a paper in HS based on the Warren Report. Funny it didn’t mention any of this. ;^)


33 posted on 01/18/2011 4:08:09 AM PST by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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