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Jews Must Flee Holland in 2011
inn ^ | 1/17/11 | Giulio Meotti

Posted on 01/17/2011 8:27:56 AM PST by Nachum

Jews will flee the multicultural Netherlands before it is too late, says Meotti.. As author Manfred Gerstenfeld, said: “Antisemitism is a perfect prism to understand the failure of Dutch multiculturalism”.

During last summer, a monumental tree trunk collapsed in Amsterdam. It was the old tree seen by Anne Frank, one of the most renowned Jewish victims of the Holocaust, from her hiding place.

The liberal media around the world were focused on this tree to highlight the complaint of a Dutch journalist, Paul Andersson Toussaint: "Antisemitism in Holland is again salonfähig”. This word means socially acceptable.

Sixty percent of Dutch Jews are ready to pack up and leave the country. The cause is a boom of Islamic antisemitism in the famous multicultural Netherlands.

The list of Dutch victims is dramatic: from the killing of the anti-Islamist political leader Pim Fortuyn to the persecution of the Somali dissident Ayaan Hirsi Ali to the murder of the director Theo Van Gogh, condemned to death for his film "Submission," a denunciation of the crimes of Muslim theocracy. Fortuyn's successor, Geert Wilders, has lived under 24-hour police protection for many years. Now the Dutch Jews are ready to flee Holland.

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Sixty percent of Dutch Jews are ready to pack up and leave the country.
1 posted on 01/17/2011 8:27:58 AM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum

Where are they going?


2 posted on 01/17/2011 8:36:34 AM PST by savage woman
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To: Nachum

When Intolerance is tolerated for the sake of tolerance this is what happens.....


3 posted on 01/17/2011 8:39:12 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Nachum

My prayer is that all Jews make Aliyah (Return to Eretz Israel) as soon as possible. I will make every attempt to help them do so. I pray that they do not make the same mistakes that their brethen made in the 1930’s...


4 posted on 01/17/2011 8:39:24 AM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishment Republicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: Nachum

And yet the Jews seem to promote & vote for socialism throughout the nations of the world, including here in the U.S. and in Israel as well. Unbelieveable! Will they never learn?


5 posted on 01/17/2011 8:40:43 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: savage woman

Israel, the only place that they can protect themselves.


6 posted on 01/17/2011 8:40:43 AM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishment Republicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: richardtavor

or florida


7 posted on 01/17/2011 8:42:42 AM PST by edcoil (Democrat's and vampires should never be invited in your home.)
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To: Nachum

Amazing isn’t how anti-semitism is an indicator of a damaged personality? Anyone who blames the Jews for the problems of the world is unable to see causes and effects and will act irrationally. They are also a good reason to own guns. When such people go berserk they don’t stop at killing Jews. They see lots of other “enemies”.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 8:43:14 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: Nachum

The problem with tolerance, is that eventually it leads to tolerance of those who are intolerant.


9 posted on 01/17/2011 8:45:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: savage woman

Israel.


10 posted on 01/17/2011 8:45:09 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: Nachum

And neither the Dutch nor many other Westerners seem to recognize the fact that the Jews are merely the first group on the list of those hated by the Muslims.


11 posted on 01/17/2011 8:46:15 AM PST by Will88
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To: Nachum

It is too late, but Europe needs to treat Muslims like Nazis.


12 posted on 01/17/2011 8:46:36 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Will88

As some Muslim once said: “First the Saturday people, then the Sunday People”.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=first+the+saturday+people&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS345US345&ie=UTF-8&aq=0&oq=First+the+saturd


13 posted on 01/17/2011 8:48:47 AM PST by Will88
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To: Nachum
"Do you know, Jane, Cecil and I both thought the same thing: we thought, it's almost as if we'd lost the war."--C. S. Lewis, That Hideous Strength (1946)
14 posted on 01/17/2011 8:48:49 AM PST by Dunstan McShane
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To: richardtavor
My prayer is that all Jews make Aliyah (Return to Eretz Israel) as soon as possible.

I understand that from a Zionist perspective, but it also in essence will create a huge concentration of the world's Jews in one area. That was Hitler's dream, to have them all concentrated for the Final Solution.

Rather, he focus should be on making sure Jews are safe wherever they live, whether here in the US, Holland, Poland, whatever. They should not have to flee from anywhere. Holland must make a stand.

15 posted on 01/17/2011 8:49:21 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Truth29
It is too late, but Europe needs to treat Muslims like Nazis.

Muslims should be peacefully deported to Muslim countries to live their lives as they wish, that certainly wasn't the Nazi solution.

16 posted on 01/17/2011 8:50:57 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Nachum
Sixty percent of Dutch Jews are ready to pack up and leave the country

40% have guns?

17 posted on 01/17/2011 8:54:36 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: richardtavor

Thanks - I don’t know much about it.
About 30 years ago I met a very nice couple from Holland,
every now and then I think of them..


18 posted on 01/17/2011 9:00:36 AM PST by savage woman
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To: edcoil

The Fontainebleau Hotel?

(rather obscure Allen Sherman reference)


19 posted on 01/17/2011 9:03:35 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: dfwgator
"Muslims should be peacefully deported to Muslim countries to live their lives as they wish, that certainly wasn't the Nazi solution."

I said treated like Nazis - prosecuted, locked up, actions sanctioned and restricted.

20 posted on 01/17/2011 9:09:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Nachum; All

Sad development....considering the Dutch people did quite a bit to hide Jews from the Nazi’s during WW II.

Islam is Evil, and, its time for honest discussion about Islam and its anti-Semitic and anti-Social behavior. Instead of creating laws that protect honest discussion of Islam....the discussion and truth needs to be revealed about Islam.


21 posted on 01/17/2011 9:12:52 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: rcrngroup

“And yet the Jews seem to promote & vote for socialism throughout the nations of the world, including here in the U.S. and in Israel as well.”

I’m one Jew to whom your generalization does not apply. There are others.


22 posted on 01/17/2011 9:15:53 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Truth29
It is too late, but Europe needs to treat Muslims like Nazis.

Muslims are ideologically closest to Nazis. During Hitler's reign, they were the Nazi's best friends.

23 posted on 01/17/2011 9:26:28 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Daveinyork

Sorry.... I should have qualified this as “most” Jews, meaning the 78% in the USA who voted for 0b0z0 & the demoRATs in 2008.


24 posted on 01/17/2011 9:32:53 AM PST by rcrngroup
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To: Nachum

“Sixty percent of Dutch Jews are ready to pack up and leave the country.”

Don’t come here. We don’t need any more people that are part of the problem. They support every Liberal cause and when it backfires on them they turn and run. They don’t have the guts to fight for what is theirs. They will just help bring the disease here.

You can’t live in peace unless your willing to fight for peace.


25 posted on 01/17/2011 9:50:12 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
“Sixty percent of Dutch Jews are ready to pack up and leave the country.”

Don’t come here.

Per Wikipedia: "A majority of the affiliated Jews in the Netherlands (Jews part of a Jewish community) are affiliated to the Nederlands Israëlitisch Kerkgenootschap (Dutch Israelite Church) (NIK), which can be classified as part of (Ashkenazi) Orthodox Judaism

Sir: You are what is wrong with this country - Pemeditated Bigotry

26 posted on 01/17/2011 10:13:56 AM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: Nachum

The rise of international anti-Semitism (on the Left) is a key reason that Israel need new housing — the same new Israeli housing that the Left complains about. Where do they want the Jews to live?!


27 posted on 01/17/2011 10:19:01 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe they should go to Haiti. Also move UN Hq. there. The members could make trips to Cuba to lick Castros’ aXX.


28 posted on 01/17/2011 10:27:12 AM PST by Waco (From Seward to Sarah.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant
The rise of international anti-Semitism (on the Left) is a key reason that Israel need new housing — the same new Israeli housing that the Left complains about. Where do they want the Jews to live?!

They don't. That is the issue.

As a footnote: There is plenty anti-semetism on the Far-Right as well.

29 posted on 01/17/2011 10:33:22 AM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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“Sir: You are what is wrong with this country - Pemeditated Bigotry”

Sir, you are wrong. I just want people to stand up for themselves. They lived through the Nazi holocaust and failed to learn the lesson that you can only run so far before the enemy catches up and you have to fight.

I seem to remember that most Jews voted for Obama and the Democrats in the lasts election. What makes you think that will change.

Be careful who you call a Bigot before you look in the mirror the image you see may be a fool who doesn’t know what one looks like.


30 posted on 01/17/2011 10:46:46 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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31 posted on 01/17/2011 11:00:15 AM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: A Strict Constructionist
I just want people to stand up for themselves

That is NOT what you originally said:

Don't come here.

We don’t need any more people that are part of the problem.

They will just help bring the disease here.

When you are an extreme minority in a country where the citizenry, police and government could give a damn about your safety......it's survival time and just because they choose to flee rather than fight does not make them a disease.

32 posted on 01/17/2011 11:21:00 AM PST by papabrody (Proud member of the International Jewish Conspiracy)
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To: dfwgator
Israel is the only place that they can protect themselves, with G-d’s help and with their own weapons, as it was written. Some have suggested that World War I occured to make the Land of Israel ready for the people, and the the Holocaust happened to make the people ready for the Land. That is not my theory, but many Tzadiks opinion (Righteous person.)
33 posted on 01/17/2011 11:42:45 AM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishment Republicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: richardtavor; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1035rep; 2ndDivisionVet; 4woodenboats; 5Madman2; ...

Video of Hitler “speech”

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2011/01/when-hitler-sings-video.html


34 posted on 01/17/2011 11:53:14 AM PST by FARS (Be Healthy, Happy and Thrive)
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To: dfwgator

Supposedly over 70% of American Jews voted for a Muslim who supports Islam destroying the West. The majority still love him.

I know conservative Jews who left Europe because of what is occuring. Jews in the UK supported the Labour Party’s Islamification of the UK. Leftist Jews are as bad or worse then the Muslims because they helped enable this. The ADL is totally against Geert Wilders as is the Jewsih mayor of Rotterdam.


35 posted on 01/17/2011 12:01:46 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: dfwgator

Liberals do not get that.


36 posted on 01/17/2011 12:21:26 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: dfwgator
Holland must make a stand.

Holland will never make a stand.

Holland -- like the rest of Europe -- is a semi-socialist welfare state with a declining indigenous population. It needs Muslim immigrants for the simple reason that they have a high birth-rate, and therefore can create enough young workers to keep the whole entitlement system propped up. In the mind of an average native Dutchman, if it comes down to a choice between "standing up on principle for the Jews of Holland" and "my guaranteed dentures subsidized by the all those young Muslim workers", he will choose the latter.

The Dutchman's short-term self-interest lies in that response. His long-term self-interest, of course, lies in the opposite response, but here's the problem: the very essence of a welfare state is to get people to think and function only for the short-term: the long-term is always someone else's problem.

37 posted on 01/17/2011 1:28:10 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: COBOL2Java
Muslims are ideologically closest to Nazis. During Hitler's reign, they were the Nazi's best friends.

True. Preceding the Second World War and during it, the Nazis had a big propaganda operation going in the Middle East, indoctrinating the people into Nazi racist ideology. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was one of the most influential propagandists for Nazi theories. The Muslim Brotherhood originated as a Nazi-front group.

38 posted on 01/17/2011 2:07:22 PM PST by BusterBear
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To: GoodDay
Holland -- like the rest of Europe -- is a semi-socialist welfare state with a declining indigenous population. It needs Muslim immigrants for the simple reason that they have a high birth-rate, and therefore can create enough young workers to keep the whole entitlement system propped up.

Once the Muslims are demographically dominant, do you really think they will tolerate being taxed to support the pensions of elderly infidels? And do you really think that Muslim immigrants produce a net benefit to tax collections?

39 posted on 01/17/2011 2:15:45 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Nachum

Get ready——Pretty soon it’s gonna be all Dutch-—Jewish or not.

It happened to the Christians in Asia Minor and Eastern Thrace when the zombie Turks went on a rampage and genocided 4 million Assyrians, Armenians, and Greeks the original inhabitants.


40 posted on 01/17/2011 2:34:19 PM PST by eleni121 (MY HERO GREGORY THE V - a living saint hanged and dragged by the ungodly muslims and their allies)
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To: PapaBear3625
Once the Muslims are demographically dominant, do you really think they will tolerate being taxed to support the pensions of elderly infidels?

They don't have to be demographically dominant to express intolerance. Apparently, they are willing to be taxed -- for the same reason the original natives were willing to be taxed -- to take advantage of the "social safety net" in their adopted country. They would, no doubt, love the fact that Dutch senior citizens must depend economically on them.

And do you really think that Muslim immigrants produce a net benefit to tax collections?

It doesn't matter what I personally think; it only matters what European tax collectors (and their governments) think. Apparently, THEY think that Muslim immigrants provide a net benefit -- at least in the short-term. Read some of the articles (or listen to some of the lectures on YouTube) of Israeli writer Bat Y'eor regarding the deals that were brokered between European governments and Arab/Muslim nations (basically, easy emigration in exchange for easy oil), and in which the demographic issue was well understood: both parties -- Arab-Muslims and Europeans -- explicitly used the term "Eurabia" to denote the sort of society and culture that would have to emerge in Europe as a result of these deals.

41 posted on 01/17/2011 2:55:02 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: papabrody

“Don’t come here. We don’t need any more people that are part of the problem. They support every Liberal cause and when it backfires on them they turn and run. They don’t have the guts to fight for what is theirs. They will just help bring the disease here.”

***You ignored “They support every Liberal cause and when it backfires on them they turn and run. They don’t have the guts to fight for what is theirs.”

“When you are an extreme minority in a country where the citizenry, police and government could give a damn about your safety.”

The European and American Jews have seen this problem before and and both have always taken the same route they don’t stand up to the aggressor they try to appease them. American Jews, as a whole, stand with and financially support those that would oppress or exterminate them while slapping those that have stood by them and Israel in the face time and time again. Why should anyone expect different behavior from this group if we take them in. American Jews yell loudly for every liberal cause that helps weaken this country and denigrate the Conservative Christians as being bigots and Anti-Semitic, when it themselves they really hate. I don’t know any American Christian that wants American Jews to get out of this country. Most would like to know that that some George Soros type want be the one saying they didn’t speak up until it was too late when the Communist and Muslims are exterminating everyone.

We are fighting for the survival of this country and accepting a group that history has proven may side with their own killers and or enemies is IMHO not justified. I support Israel and think it would be a wonderful place for them. If you don’t speak up you don’t know if there is any support or if people are just saying if you will not stand up for yourself why should I.

Where do you stand and with whom?


42 posted on 01/17/2011 3:00:57 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: GoodDay
It doesn't matter what I personally think; it only matters what European tax collectors (and their governments) think. Apparently, THEY think that Muslim immigrants provide a net benefit -- at least in the short-term.

Net benefit to the European countries, or just net benefit to certain businesses that need to do business with Muslim countries? Do not assume that European governments operate with a view towards the interests of their common citizens, versus the interests of their elites.

43 posted on 01/17/2011 4:05:05 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Nachum

Much of the diamond business in the world is done in Antwerp, Belgium. But isn’t there a lot done in Amsterdam, as well? If the Jews leave Netherlands do they take their businesses with them?


44 posted on 01/17/2011 6:58:45 PM PST by Tucker39
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To: FARS

Thanks for the ping!


45 posted on 01/17/2011 9:12:10 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: PapaBear3625

I would certainly never make that mistake. Nevertheless, European welfare states operate as democracies, meaning, their government elites —or some of them, at any rate — are subject to election by their citizens (who are divided up into special interest groups even more than they are in the U.S.).

Welfare states need lots of workers to pay lots of taxes to prop up the welfare-entitlement system. That obviously can’t be done in a culture in which the native citizens don’t marry, don’t have babies, and terminate most of their pregnancies in abortion. Clearly, to stay in power, the elites need a special-interest group that makes lots of babies. Muslims fit the bill.

Even jaded European governments can only do so much by means of inflation. They still need lots of young workers able to pay lots of taxes.


46 posted on 01/17/2011 9:13:34 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: Truth29

The only difference between the old Nazis and TROP bunch are the filthy nightshirts of the latter..


47 posted on 01/17/2011 9:45:44 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Nachum

NO they should FIGHT, FIGHT YOU DUTCH wussies! Do what’s right not what’s...I mean, grrRRRR oh hell, they’ll cave dang it. if everyone leaves what does that show but that evil prevails because good people DO NOTHING GRRRRR I’m angered at this.


48 posted on 01/17/2011 10:37:20 PM PST by Karliner (Now this is not the end. .... But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning, Churchill 1942)
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To: dfwgator

Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing.


49 posted on 01/18/2011 3:05:27 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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To: Seruzawa; All
They see lots of other "enemies".

Christians are high - and already on their list. P>Ill winds blowing and pathetically sad, the response of the civilized world to what is a gathering tsunami.

( Would like to see those Jews who defend radical Muslims here; including the 'Hollywood elite' and non-elite for that matter, respond to what is happening in the Netherlands. Of course, they would probably blame 'their own', if ever, asked to explain. Many more, simply clueless and they prefer it that way.)

50 posted on 01/18/2011 11:28:21 PM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . . .Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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