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P.J. O'Rourke: 'We are seeing the sad end of liberalism'
American Thinker ^ | January 17, 2011 | Rick Moran

Posted on 01/17/2011 9:01:59 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike

In a mostly serious, spot on analysis of New York Times reporting on the Tucson shootings, P.J. O'Rourke wonders if the kind of liberalism promoted by the Times and others hasn't outlived its usefulness in our political debates.

Writing in The Weekly Standard, O'Rourke excoriates several Times writers for their obvious biases before getting to the meat of his critique:

A reaction so disproportionate and immaterial to a news story by a news organization is indicative of trouble in the body politic​-​trouble almost as severe as that which the Times claims the Giffords shooting indicates. I worry that in the tremors and hysteria of the Times we're seeing the sad end of liberalism.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
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1 posted on 01/17/2011 9:02:00 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Sad? Not really! I’m ecstatic about it.


2 posted on 01/17/2011 9:05:44 AM PST by Conservative_Jedi (Give me Liberty or give me Death!!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

A brain eating mental disorder.


3 posted on 01/17/2011 9:07:33 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (America is ailin' and the one and ONLY cure is Palin.)
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To: Conservative_Jedi

Liberalism died when it morphed into progressivism. the best of classical liberalism resides in today’s conservatives.


4 posted on 01/17/2011 9:08:02 AM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Hotlanta Mike

CBS poll: 57% of Americans reject ‘Palin did it’ media spin on Arizona massacre

http://www.examiner.com/post-partisan-in-national/cbs-poll-57-of-americans-reject-palin-did-it-media-spin-on-arizona-massacre#ixzz1BJTgcMZi

What troubles me is — it is STILL just 57%, too low for my comfort. That tells us that there’s still a HUGE MASS of people — millions of them -— who believe in the liberal Media spin.


5 posted on 01/17/2011 9:08:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Hotlanta Mike

PJ is a great conservative humorist with insight into the crazy Left ( he was editor of National Lampoon at it’s zenith) , and could be VERY instrumental in tea party ascendency. I, for one, would like to see consistent, timely PJOR articles.


6 posted on 01/17/2011 9:08:39 AM PST by moodyskeptic (Cultural warrior with a keyboard)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

We should open a Museum of Liberalism and the Civil Rights Movement. That is where it all belongs. Sharpton and Jesse could be the old Grey haired curators.


7 posted on 01/17/2011 9:10:21 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I was once a “liberal,” when liberalism meant something RADICALLY different.

Like “progressive” and “democrat,” these terms were usurped by dedicated Marxist/socialist operatives who have seized the democrat party in a slow motion coup lasting 50 years. The media, the federal bureaucracy, and academia were also 80%-90% captured by these same forces.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 9:10:24 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
But liberalism, as personified by the New York Times, became a dotty old aunt sometime during the Johnson administration. She's provincial, eccentric, and holds dull, peculiar views about the world. Still, she has our fond regard, and we visit her regularly in her nursing home otherwise known as Arts and Leisure and the Book Review. Or we did until Sunday, January 9, when she began spouting obscenities and exposing herself.
She may have Alzheimer's but her physical health is still strong.
9 posted on 01/17/2011 9:11:38 AM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Liberalism is dead? Don’t believe it for a second. Liberalism is like Michael Myers in the “Halloween” series. Every time you think you killed it, it rises up again to surprise you. Never turn your back on the “corpse”.

I will only believe Liberalism is dead when its last practitioners flee the country for Sweden ahead of the Lynch Mob.


10 posted on 01/17/2011 9:11:47 AM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: FormerACLUmember

Lefty-Commie ping...


11 posted on 01/17/2011 9:13:07 AM PST by Beaten Valve
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Targeting: Daveinyork

If the left wants to be called progressive then maybe it's time for the right to reclaim the moniker liberal. That would make their heads explode.

12 posted on 01/17/2011 9:14:09 AM PST by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: rbg81

Agreed.

And to your tagline....I would shout “Get behind me, Satan” ;)


13 posted on 01/17/2011 9:14:14 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: Daveinyork

“Liberalism died when it morphed into progressivism”, WRONG! “Progerssives(IE Communist DUPES) stole the term “Liberal” to hide what they REALLY are, LIERS, COMMUNISTS and Anti-Americans.


14 posted on 01/17/2011 9:14:21 AM PST by US Navy Vet
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To: oyez

She may have Alzheimer’s but her physical health is still strong.


Like Frances?

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/01/17/audio-piven-says-tea-party-all-about-sex-or-something/


15 posted on 01/17/2011 9:15:06 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

I suggest going directly to Mr. O’Rourke’s column in the Weekly Standard, rather than going to a blog about the same column.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/times-loses-it_533697.html


16 posted on 01/17/2011 9:17:03 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: FormerACLUmember
"I was once a “liberal,” when liberalism meant something RADICALLY different."

Jefferson, Madison, Locke, Smith, Rosseau and Votaire were all considered liberals also. They were concerned with individual liberties (the true meaning of liberalism). The only time the role of government came up with these great philosophical thinkers was for the government to protect the people's individual liberties. Like you, I consider myself a liberal. In the classical sense of liberalism that these great thinkers espoused...
17 posted on 01/17/2011 9:19:50 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: rbg81
Liberalism is dead? Don’t believe it for a second.
Amen. I remember back in 1994 when the GOP finally retook the House and conservatism looked like it was off and running.
Shortly thereafter, Rush made the comment that we should put a few Lib professors into museums, just in case we wanted to remind ourselves what they looked like.
One of the few times Rush was wrong.
18 posted on 01/17/2011 9:20:20 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: rbg81
Liberalism is dead? Don’t believe it for a second. Liberalism is like Michael Myers in the “Halloween” series. Every time you think you killed it, it rises up again to surprise you. Never turn your back on the “corpse”.

Liberalism is dead. It was replaced by the progressives.

19 posted on 01/17/2011 9:22:33 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: rbg81
Liberals wake up in a new world every morning. They have the same long-term memory as a cockroach.

It will usually destroy the country completely before anything dissuades its adherents.

The ruling class will hold on until they are alone in a shattered shell of a country, then they just go elsewhere.

Would be interesting to know how many have foreign addresses available when needed..

20 posted on 01/17/2011 9:23:48 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Larry Lucido

I heartily suggest all read O’Rourke’s book “Give War a Chance”. Its one of the best books on the failures of
socialism, around the world, you will ever read. And its very funny too!


21 posted on 01/17/2011 9:28:14 AM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Another thing that irks me: The theft of the word “Progressive” by the Marxists/socialist thugs who now run the media, academia and the democrat party,

“Progressive” once meant the conservationist, anti-monopolist, free-market solution oriented REPUBLICANS like Teddy Roosevelt!

Biggest unpunished felony in American History!


22 posted on 01/17/2011 9:28:25 AM PST by FormerACLUmember (Character is defined by how we treat those who society says have no value.)
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To: Conservative_Jedi

Being replaced by COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM, AND ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


23 posted on 01/17/2011 9:28:57 AM PST by Doc Savage
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To: I see my hands

But we conservatives don’t have to “re-label” every 20 years,
because our underlying ideology isn’t repugnant.


24 posted on 01/17/2011 9:30:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

As long as the Rebublicans keep RINO’s alive and kicking within the party, Liberalism will not be dead.


25 posted on 01/17/2011 9:35:59 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep in mind that 33% of the 43% who believe the shooting is related somehow to Palin are hard-core liberals who believe everything the media says as some form of gospel and your left with about 10% of the population. That’s about the percentage of Americans who are booger-eating and mouthbreathing morons.


26 posted on 01/17/2011 9:37:12 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Conservatives want a CHOICE not an echo - No more RINOs!)
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To: Huebolt

The ruling class will hold on until they are alone in a shattered shell of a country, then they just go elsewhere.


Even then, they will not admit they were wrong. Like Hitler, they will just blame the people for failing to implement their vision.


27 posted on 01/17/2011 9:41:03 AM PST by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Daveinyork

“Liberalism died when it morphed into progressivism. the best of classical liberalism resides in today’s conservatives.”

Well said.


28 posted on 01/17/2011 9:43:54 AM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Oligarchy...never vote for the Ivy League candidate.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

What they call “liberal progressive” today really means “radical” red diaper doper baby politics.


29 posted on 01/17/2011 9:54:16 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: NeverForgetBataan

I heartily suggest all read O’Rourke’s book “Give War a Chance”. Its one of the best books on the failures of
socialism, around the world, you will ever read. And its very funny too!


Thanks NFB. I’ll check it out.


30 posted on 01/17/2011 9:55:13 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: rbg81

As with Nazism, their political ideology must be cast on the scrapheap of history and exposed for it’s lies and limits on human liberty.


31 posted on 01/17/2011 9:59:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: rbg81

There will always be somebody in line to take your money and then proceed to use it against your interests.

Anyone notice how the word ‘Tort’ hasn’t come within 4000 miles of the healtcare debate?

As for the words ‘Tort’ and ‘Reform’, I imagine that if those two words came together in any MSM editorial context, their would be an explosion on the order of matter and anti-matter coming together in concentrations measured in pounds.


32 posted on 01/17/2011 10:04:15 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

>’We are seeing the sad end of liberalism’<

.
We can only wish it were true.


33 posted on 01/17/2011 10:11:22 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Hotlanta Mike
P.J. O'Rourke: 'We are seeing the sad end of liberalism'

The liberals have been showing their sorry asses for a long time.

34 posted on 01/17/2011 10:14:08 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Have you ever visited the CBS site? The site is where progressives go, so if 57% don’t buy what they are selling that is pretty impressive.


35 posted on 01/17/2011 10:17:45 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
you're left with about 10% of the population. That’s about the percentage of Americans who are booger-eating and mouthbreathing morons.

booger-eating and mouthbreathing morons who vote!

36 posted on 01/17/2011 10:18:36 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

save


37 posted on 01/17/2011 10:19:13 AM PST by Rumplemeyer
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Sad? for whom? Not me. I’m really overjoyed at the thought. Though I predict that the rumors of its death are greatly exaggerated..........


38 posted on 01/17/2011 10:20:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing something right.)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

“sad end”
I can’t say that I’ve ever seen a happy side to liberalism.
It is either manic vituperation from the Olbermann/Mahers or nonsense delivered with a straight face from the Rathers/Courics and screwball wing of the Democratic party.

The best example might be Katrina VandenHoovel sp? (Latrina Vanden Hooters? Vampirella Pussinboots?) of The Nation: her TV facial expression always suggests extreme suffering from painful flatulence.


39 posted on 01/17/2011 10:23:41 AM PST by tumblindice (Get to crackin' burfday gurl)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

Liberalism has clearly lost all pretense to any cognitive basis...regardless of the number of Ivy League degrees associated with it.

Its institutionalized insanity ...dressed up as education.


40 posted on 01/17/2011 10:44:21 AM PST by mo
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To: mo
Its institutionalized insanity ...dressed up as education.
41 posted on 01/17/2011 10:57:50 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Hotlanta Mike; All
My all-time favorite:

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child —
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
— P.J. O'Rourke

42 posted on 01/17/2011 11:13:36 AM PST by Citizen X_Area 51 (Obama: Our first Halfrican President)
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To: Hotlanta Mike
Love this passage:

"Editorialized the Times: “It is legitimate to hold Republicans and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger that has produced the vast majority of these threats.” Interesting how a few small changes would make that sentence appall the Times as much as the Times appalls me: “It is legitimate to hold Muslims and particularly their most virulent supporters in the media responsible for the gale of anger that has produced 9/11.”"

43 posted on 01/17/2011 11:13:50 AM PST by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: mo

It doesn’t matter how logically you can think,
if you begin from a false set of assumptions,

you can procede absolutely flawlessly from there,
and arrive at

2 + 2 = wombat. (ie, nonsense)


44 posted on 01/17/2011 11:16:37 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Anyone notice how the word ‘Tort’ hasn’t come within 4000 miles of the healtcare debate?

That was well planned ahead of time. According to Dr. Dean, they didn't want to cross the trial lawyers.

45 posted on 01/17/2011 11:37:07 AM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: Conservative_Jedi
Sad? Not really! I’m ecstatic about it.

Be careful what you wish for. We live in a bi-polar universe. Up-down, left-right, hot-cold, sweet-sour ... etc.

If "liberalism" disappears, something will take its place in opposition to normalcy. It may be better to allow a crippled, ineffectual shadow of its once-raging and destructive self to continue to exist. Schumer chained in place in Times Square ... so to speak ... snarling and spitting at passers-by. Parents passing with their children, warning them, "Watch out, son, don't get too close. The chuck can still hurt you."

46 posted on 01/17/2011 12:03:49 PM PST by RobinOfKingston
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To: Larry Lucido

Thanks for the link. What strikes me after reading PJO’s article, and I hadn’t realized it before, is that the libs are not necessarily scared so much of Sarah Palin as they are of the Tea Party. This makes me smile.


47 posted on 01/17/2011 12:15:14 PM PST by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: rbg81
I will only believe Liberalism is dead when its last practitioners flee the country for Sweden ahead of the Lynch Mob.

Liberalism will never "be dead" because Liberalism is Death.

48 posted on 01/17/2011 2:50:19 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Conservative_Jedi

I’m not. Libs are going to be around forever, like crab grass and toothaches. As long as the colleges and the government schools keep indoctrinating them they’ll be liberals aplenty, unfortunatly..


49 posted on 01/18/2011 3:01:26 PM PST by jmacusa (Two wrongs don't make a right. But they can make it interesting.)
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