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Retirees Shocked By Lower Pension Payments (Pelosi forgets to renew Make Work Pay tax credit)
The Indy Channel ^ | 1/17/11

Posted on 01/17/2011 5:10:03 PM PST by Libloather

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To: MrPiper
Ya, they got their teet caught in the ringer...

Haulin butt now.... Take care.

81 posted on 01/17/2011 8:30:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: FormerACLUmember
While neither endorsing or condemning your comment, I think it's fair to point out that a rather sizable portion of their (public employees) paychecks goes to their pension fund, with the expectation of something resembling a reasonable retirement income.

It now appears those in the public sector are facing what those on Social Security are coping with; the deal they were promised for their "golden years" was a raw one.

82 posted on 01/17/2011 8:35:39 PM PST by daler
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To: daler

Welcome to the New World Order.......Or.. TEOTWAWKI......


83 posted on 01/17/2011 8:39:05 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: dragnet2; MrPiper

Nice thread, gentlemen.


84 posted on 01/17/2011 8:41:57 PM PST by bigheadfred (As a rapturous voice escapes I will tremble a prayer and I'll ask for forgiveness...)
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To: bigheadfred

Cheers,, ya,, I thought we kept it on a polite level.......


85 posted on 01/17/2011 8:43:11 PM PST by MrPiper
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To: MrPiper; dragnet2

Yeah, I’m worse than Hitler. Guess I should’ve really pulled out the slick humor and juvenile BS. That gets them spinning... :-)

Night, ya’ll.


86 posted on 01/17/2011 8:49:32 PM PST by bigheadfred (As a rapturous voice escapes I will tremble a prayer and I'll ask for forgiveness...)
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To: MrPiper

Polite racists are more insidious and harmful to the cause than the impolite ones. Slap yourselves on the back if you need the mutual admiration.


87 posted on 01/17/2011 9:04:21 PM PST by Wallop the Cat
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To: dragnet2

“Wallop sure was quick to pull the race card....I find that **extremely** suspect.”

A sleeper troll since 2009?


88 posted on 01/18/2011 5:55:00 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: dragnet2

I thought I answered directly enough, but you wish a simple yes or no. I can accomodate that, but we will need to define the terms: “Leftist Communist schools, academia, universities, public schools etc etc, totally pander to blacks and Hispanics and foreigners...This has clearly been the pattern for the past 30 years. “

Please define the term ‘totally pander to’ with more precision. Also, I would prefer not grouping every manner of school in something I am expected to say yes or no to. Please precisely define the exact school or schools we are discussing.


89 posted on 01/18/2011 7:07:50 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: MrPiper
double speak... you are a communist/democrat.

Okay, let me this straight: If I do not color an entire race in a negative light, because Affirmative Action is in existence, then I am a communist or a democrat?

Alternatively, if I consider a person's actual skills when in a hiring decision, instead of looking at their skin color and remembering that A.A. may exist for them, then I am a communist or democrat?

90 posted on 01/18/2011 7:11:06 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Wallop the Cat
I do not know you, and I am suspicious of people who are here for only a year or two, but I am a little weirded out that some long-term participants seem to think I am wrong for considering each individual as an individual, as opposed to looking at them as a monolithic race — *whatever* programs, however wrongheaded, may exist for them.
91 posted on 01/18/2011 7:14:07 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz

Agreed, although to say I’m only a “little” weirded out is an understatement. There’s no reason to fight battles won by the right side decades ago, and, alas, no hope in changing the attitudes of those who are entrenched in their tired racist beliefs.


92 posted on 01/18/2011 8:04:45 AM PST by Wallop the Cat
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To: Wallop the Cat
I think it is important to be a voice of reason here, then, lest the left quote this thread and scream 'nothing but racists abound there'.

I will not judge a race as a monolith. There are good and bad, competent and incompetent, in every race. I look at each individual before I make decisions.

93 posted on 01/18/2011 8:11:56 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Wallop the Cat

Oh, by the way, I think Affirmative Action is wrongheaded, and very damaging to our social fabric.


94 posted on 01/18/2011 8:14:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
we will need to define the terms: “Leftist Communist schools, academia, universities, public schools etc etc, totally pander to blacks and Hispanics and foreigners...This has clearly been the pattern for the past 30 years.

Please define the term ‘totally pander to’ with more precision.

You should know better than this Laz...I would expect this from some bottom feeder 3rd rate attorney in San Fransisco.

95 posted on 01/18/2011 9:34:16 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

If you ask me to render ONLY a yes, or a no, then I will not render that answer to a vague question. Sorry.


96 posted on 01/18/2011 9:36:36 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
Leftist Communist schools, academia, universities, public schools etc etc, totally pander to blacks and Hispanics and foreigners...This has clearly been the pattern for the past 30 years.

You deny this?

Yes or no?

If you ask me to render ONLY a yes, or a no, then I will not render that answer to a vague question

That's the funniest damn thing I've ever heard you say.

97 posted on 01/18/2011 9:45:43 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Okay, so you don't intend to clarify your terms, I get it.

I will not answer a vague question with a yes or no, so my answer, by necessity: "Request denied."

98 posted on 01/18/2011 9:47:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
See my tag line...

See ya round Laz

99 posted on 01/18/2011 9:50:59 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

See ya.


100 posted on 01/18/2011 9:52:55 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, than Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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